Is anyone interested in a Head Start Explorer (seems to be an XT with
built-in CGA). Has a dead floppy, no hard drive. Boots up fine on ROM.
manney(a)nwohio.com
>Wow! A high schooler who's into old computers? Unless there is a
>pre-pubescent teenager on this list, I think Daniel has the record as the
>youngest collector of old computers.
One of my customers is (I think) a Freshman; he collects old stuff. That
would make him 14 or 15. Another, Steve O., just joined the group (you
listening, Steve?). He's young, but I don't know how young.
Not all of us are ancient.
I just picked up a Kaypro 2 (with several missing keys) at one of the
local Salvation Army stores.
It won't recognize my Kaypro II disks, and it takes longer to come up with
the "I cannot read your diskette" message than the Kaypro II does (when I
shove MS-DOS disks in them).
Is the Kaypro 2 broken, or does it use a different disk format from the
Kaypro II? I notice that the startup message is different, so they must
have different ROM revisions.
What are the differences (other than the obvious cosmetic differences)
between these two models?
Thanks.
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
At 02:03 AM 10/22/97 -0500, I wrote:
>Thanks for the info! Do you know if it's positive on the inside or outside?
>(either + -O)- - or - -O)- + ?)
Oh fiddle. I meant to send that directly to the person I was replying to,
but I goofed. Sorry. But thanks anyway to all who responded.
Btw, I think that the page I quoted went a little overboard. I don't think
you *have* to replace the 9volt battery with an adapter, but you can.
(Duh.) Still, I saw the switch that requires removing the L-A battery cover
(and presumably, you would want to remove the battery as well to run off
AC?) I'll report back after trying it out. (I picked up a variable power
adapter from RatShack today 'cause I've got quite a few machines missing
adapters.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-
Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
Hey Folks::
I found this on CSA2 newsgroup. Thought some of you in the bay area
might be interested. I would LOVE to go but it's a long way from
Minnesota. If anyone does attend, I would like to hear about how it was
rob
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+ please forward and post as appropriate within the Bay area +
Bay Area Computer History Perspectives
and
The Computer Museum History Center
present
"Early User Interface Design at Apple"
Larry Tesler and Chris Espinosa
Stagecast Software Apple Computer
5:30 PM, Tuesday, Oct. 28
Computer Museum History Center
Building 126
Moffett Field
Mt. View
(directions at end)
Note: if you plan to attend, please reply to Zoe Allison at
415/604-2575, or send email with your name to allison(a)tcm.org.
Please indicate if you aren't a US citizen, thanks.
When Larry Tesler came to Apple in 1980 from Xerox Palo Alto Research
Center, he introduced user interface testing to the Lisa project. Only
recently did Larry learn that Chris Espinosa had conducted Apple II
user interface testing a couple of years earlier. This program will
review the story of early user interface design at Apple, up to 1984,
for the Apple II, the Lisa, and the Mac.
Larry and Chris will be presenting original internal Apple memos and
drawings from the period which have not been shown previously in
public. A historic videotape will also be shown of actual Lisa user
interface testing, among the earliest such tests at Apple. This program
is free and open to the public.
In 1980 Larry Tesler managed applications software and user interface
design for the Lisa division, and later became VP and Chief Scientist
at Apple. He is now president of Stagecast, a K-12 software startup.
Chris Espinosa started working at Apple at the age of 14, bicycling
over after school to do the weekly Apple II demos. He later worked on
the original Mac design team, and recently has managed the Media Tools
group at Apple.
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Next program:
November 12: The influence of Doug Engelbart's work over the last 30
years.
These lectures are sponsored by The Computer Museum History Center and
Sun Microsystems.
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Directions: from highway 101 in Mt. View, take the Moffett Field exit
(ignore any signs or exits for Moffett Blvd.). You will come
immediately up to the Moffett Field main gate. Park to the right side
of the gate, in the visitor's parking area, and go into the Visitor
Office building to get a badge and further directions.
Remember to call 415/604-2575, or email allison(a)tcm.org, if you plan
to attend.
--
Dag Spicer
Manager of Historical Collections
The Computer Museum History Center
Moffett Federal Airfield
Mountain View, CA 94035
Offices: Building T-12A
Exhibit Area: Building 126
Tel: +1 650 604 2578
Fax: +1 650 604 2594
E-m: spicer(a)tcm.org
WWW: http://www.tcm.org
<spicer(a)tcm.org> PGP: 15E31235 (E6ECDF74 349D1667 260759AD 7D04C178)
I will have soon:
A PDP-11/84. Working. It has an RL02, but no pack.
And more!
I do have now:
A DEQNA network card.
Now I just gotta get Fuzzball to build...
I may have my 11/23+ up soon!
around 1984-1985, we had all apples in hi skool mostly //e's and epson fx80
printers but there were a few ][+ models in an adjoining room. i remember
going to a mall once and seeing an apple ///, but was unfamiliar with it.
in 1986 at a community college, they had more //e models, trs80 model 3
machines, i think, and ibm XTs with cga monitors. i never used anything else
until around 1988 when i discovered a friend with an atari 800xl with the
1050 disk drive and i used that to type in programs from the magazine called
compute, of which i still have the issues.
david
Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org> wrote:
>HP brought the 2000A timeshared BASIC system out in...1967? I know
>there were some (later models, 2000F and 2000 Access) still in service
>at various Washington DC suburban area high schools into the early
>1980s at least, maybe into the mid-1980s. Prince Georges County
>(Maryland) and Fairfax County (Virginia) both had them, maybe others
>too.
In Orange County, California, the local community college ran an
HP2000/Access system utilized by the local high schools. Each school
had Digital LA36 and Lear-Siegler ADM-3A terminals connected at a
blazing 300 baud. It still running at the time of my graduation in
1983. I have fond memories of the HP system, having written many pro-
grams on it (including one that triggered an "OUT OF MEMORY" error...
talk about the need for optimized code!) If memory serves, the beast
was decommissioned several years later.
Regards,
Jason Brady jrbrady(a)mindspring.com Seattle, WA
<Wow! A high schooler who's into old computers? Unless there is a
<pre-pubescent teenager on this list, I think Daniel has the record as the
<youngest collector of old computers.
Frightening. ;-)
here are some numbers
If you are in highschool now:
-0 PCs are known as current
if highschool was x years ago:
1990 PCs and macs
1985 Apples, macs, Rainbows, PRO350s maybe some PCs
1980 s100, apple][, swtp, LSI11, micronova Microprocessor chips
1977 PDP-11, vax, nova Some LSI and bit slice
1971 PDP-8, PDP-10 TTL mostly, some utilogic and transistors
FYI the main computers in the shuttle are this era technology.
1965 PDP-5 Transistors.
1960 First generation transistors, vacuum tubes
1952 first commercial machines, tubes
1947 prototypes, tubes and relays
If you were like me and did electronics as a kid following on to a career
then everything made from '64-65ish on was current at one time or another
to me. Then again I went to the NY worlds fair 1964/5!
Allison
