> So, I am looking to convert my old Access database I have used for many
> years to a MySQL database, with the expectation that I will eventually
> publish it on a web page for public lookup.
I don't know what you're looking at for the front end of this project, but
have you considered SQLite for the database engine back end? If not, you
might take a look at www.sqlite.org - it's an extremely nice bit of
software, if not for this project, then perhaps others.
~~
Mark Moulding
see if mother in law can bag it! they are rather pricey now! heh
heh!
In a message dated 9/23/2015 1:54:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cube1 at charter.net writes:
On 9/23/2015 2:34 PM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
> I really believe a person would make an entire interesting
> collection of just logic trainers!
>
> we have a couple of the MINIVAC trainers too one I keep under
> glass and the other I take out for show and tell.
>
My mother in law had one of those she used in her high school for extra
projects for kids in her math classes. Played with it when I was up one
Labor Day weekend before my wife and I were married.
If that counts then so should the Digicomp plastic slidy-toy-thing I had
as a kid. ;)
JRJ
Ok have digicomp...
then there were the arrray of analog computers with potentiometers
and a meter....
In a message dated 9/23/2015 1:54:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cube1 at charter.net writes:
On 9/23/2015 2:34 PM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
> I really believe a person would make an entire interesting
> collection of just logic trainers!
>
> we have a couple of the MINIVAC trainers too one I keep under
> glass and the other I take out for show and tell.
>
My mother in law had one of those she used in her high school for extra
projects for kids in her math classes. Played with it when I was up one
Labor Day weekend before my wife and I were married.
If that counts then so should the Digicomp plastic slidy-toy-thing I had
as a kid. ;)
JRJ
I really believe a person would make an entire interesting
collection of just logic trainers!
we have a couple of the MINIVAC trainers too one I keep under glass
and the other I take out for show and tell.
We have a fabritek and a few other later ones too.
In a message dated 9/23/2015 9:58:30 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cube1 at charter.net writes:
On 9/23/2015 11:28 AM, couryhouse wrote:
> Wow! That is neat!
> Our Dec logic trainer has sort of 8i looking toggles and lots of patch
> cords... I had not seen one like yours. ... what is the date?
> Ed#
>
>
>
There is an earlier one of similar design, but blue colored, in the
1966-67, 1967 and 1968 logic handbooks - so mine is later than that.
One with PDP-8/PDP-12 style switches shows up in the back of the 1969
logic handbook.
There is one that looks somewhat like mine on the inside front cover of
the 1970 logic handbook, and the panels that would be possible to
include in one start at page 353. So that dates it to 1970 or after.
Hi. The original ROM request showed up just before I started receiving
messages this morning, and I only got the tail end of the chatter. Instead
of tacking a reply on to that, I thought I'd just start a new thread and
introduce myself at the same time.
Here's what I think is 23-038e4-00 from an LA120 (with a bad print head,
and dead pin drivers as well). I couldn't find anything to compare it
against, and the adapter is new. So it might be gibberish. I did see, at
least, [A-Z] in the dump, so maybe it's good.
As for the introduction, I started life on the Apple II in fourth grade or
thereabouts, finally got a Commodore 128, then an Amiga, then jumped over
to UNIX (BSD mostly) and stuck there for years doing software. After
funding stopped being an issue, I decided to get back to more interesting
and/or simple hardware, and electronics in general. I seem to have
collected a rather complete HP86/87, under the illusion of using it for an
GPIB controller. I'm now wrestling with an apparently dead PSU on a
MicroPDP (actually, I just now gave up on it), and am slowly fixing up a
PDP-8/a. It has two CPU boards, one of which ignores the HALT
instruction. From the schematics, I think it's one faulty 74ls chip, but I
haven't tried fixing it -- the machine has been down for cleaning/painting
for many months. I just got it put back together this weekend. I also
swapped out the fans for modern (quiet) 12v fans (driven off an isolated
power supply powered by the original 120 vac fan supply)...and now hear the
transformer buzzing away. Win some, lose some. Sigh. Congrats on making
it to the end!
Cheers!
b
> There were plenty of assemblers around, some even native. Heck, I wrote
> both an 8008 and an 8080 cross-assembler (in FORTRAN, naturally). It's
> not rocket science. One friend of mine wrote his assembler as macros
> for a mainframe assembler. That, at once, gave him all of the advanced
> facilities of the host assembler. Wish I'd thought of that...
So, I wrote my primitive little 8080 assembler, in Fortran-77. I started
using it the next day, and my manager asked where I got it. After I told
him, he said that I should have asked him first, because he could have put
together one using editor macros pretty easily - in less than a week, he
estimated. The fact that I knew nothing about macros notwithstanding, I
noticed I thereafter got a lot more autonomy when I told him I wrote mine in
a single (longish) day...
~~
Mark Moulding
At NCAR there was a structured Fortran preprocessor named IFTRAN that was in use for a long time. The earlier versions of the NCAR Local Network (NLNET), later renamed MASnet (Mainframe and Server network), as well as a variety of graphics packages were written in it. I still have the IFTRAN to C translator I wrote to convert everything to C code so we didn?t have to spend money on Fortran compilers on the Unix boxes.
MASnet was a Hyperchannel cross bar network used for batch job submissions and data transfers to/from the Mass Storage Server (MSS), the supercomputers and the front end servers. Eventually it was migrated to run on top of TCP/IP and Ethernet when the Hyperchannel hardware got expensive to maintain and comparatively slow.
Wow! That is neat!Our Dec logic trainer has sort of 8i looking toggles and lots of patch cords... I had not seen one like yours. ... what is the date?Ed#
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-------- Original message --------
From: Jay Jaeger <cube1 at charter.net>
Date: 09/23/2015 6:21 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: COURYHOUSE at aol.com, cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: would like to find blue dg et head looking terminal to go with
small ecli...
On 9/23/2015 3:58 AM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
> Yes? host?? was? having hickups? it? seems.
>?
> Take a look? at the neat logic? trainer? by? IBM at link? below,
>?
> Wish I had? more? info on this? IBM? tube?? type? digital logic? trainer
> kit.? comes in a?? wonderful? fitted? case? with all kinds of??? plugable
> units?? see url
>?
> http://www.smecc.org/wpe_files/wpe45.jpg
>?
>?
> The logic? trainer is on the left? at the? right is? SAGE? plugable? unit
>?
That is seriously cool.
I have one of the older style DEC ones, complete with lots of cards and
plug wires:
http://webpages.charter.net/thecomputercollection/misc/logiclab.jpg
JRJ
Yes host was having hickups it seems.
Take a look at the neat logic trainer by IBM at link below,
Wish I had more info on this IBM tube type digital logic trainer
kit. comes in a wonderful fitted case with all kinds of plugable
units see url
http://www.smecc.org/wpe_files/wpe45.jpg
The logic trainer is on the left at the right is SAGE plugable unit
This was a really early photo as I think I had just finished building
the display case and that was all that was in it! that entire 8 foot
case is pretty much SAGE display. SAGE is near and dear to some of us
as we had a DC across from Luke AFB about 15 minutes away from our
building.
We even have some remains of come gear from the first prototype
Q7 system that I need to hunt down more info on.
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)
In a message dated 9/22/2015 7:01:09 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cube1 at charter.net writes:
Hmmm. I am getting a DNS miss on www.smecc.org - was not getting that
earlier today.
JRJ
On 9/22/2015 8:37 PM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
> One thing first look at this and need more info on it and
docs.
>
> wish I had more info on this IBM tube type digital logic trainer
> kit. comes in a wonderful fitted case with all kinds of
plugable
> units
> see url http://www.smecc.org/wpe_files/wpe45.jpg
>
>
> current project 3000/37 and micro 3000
> Looking for more 3000 stuff both small and large ( cx, ser I,I
ser
> III etc.)
> Pulled them all over to the media center where I could spread out and
> work on them.
>
> ok here is some of our stuff.
> we are not exclusively a computer museum but we do have some
<grin!>
>
>
> Other areas are
> scientific instruments,
> radar and radar countermeasures adn other electronic warefare
> radio and TV broadcasting,
> Rural Electrification,
> Tools of the journalist,
> office automation 1800's forward.
> Telecommunications for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing
> and on and on
>
> Some Minis
>
> H 11 ( LSI-11 by DEC but in Heath packaging )
> DEC PDP8 classsic sn/18
> HP-2116b
> HP-2000 access system (has 2 2100 in it)
> HP3000/37 ( when it is in the building)
> eclipse s20
>
> need to clean and wedge in
> Dec PDP 11/20
> DEC PDP-8 S
> NEXT cube, printer, monitor and all next-y related chachakies
>
> who know what are in the other buildings
>
> Micros...
>
> Intel Intellect 8
> Altairs
> Imsais
> many Comidore things
> many R.S.
> Heath h-8
> Heath H-89
> several osbornes
> apples
> sun-sparc
> lots of single board computers
> cobalt cube
> next cube with all accs
> a bunch of other ss
>
> many many hp desktops and pcs
> love the prtototype iHP Integral we have too
>
>
>
>
> trainers and digital labs
>
> IBM really early with tube type plugable units
>
> DEC lab
> Fabritec lab
>
> wish I had more info on this IBM comes in a wonderful fitted
case
> with all kinds of plugable units
> see url http://www.smecc.org/wpe_files/wpe45.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/22/2015 3:25:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> jwest at classiccmp.org writes:
>
> Awesome. What minicomputer systems do you have on public display
besides
> the
> DG? I'm glad to see more DG representation of course :)
>
> ----
> This month's 'make computer work ' project is HP-3000 related.
> ----
> I'm a bit of an HP fan ;) What's cooking 3K-related?
>
>
You are indeed lucky they ceased. Mine did not start until my 20s
It is definitely one thing that made sure I had my own business.
Many people in a supervisory position have no understanding of what it is
like.
Ed#
In a message dated 9/22/2015 10:10:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cube1 at charter.net writes:
On 9/22/2015 11:00 PM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
> probably an artifact generated by my migraine this evening .
>
Ugh. Had some of those while I was in High School, complete with
squiggly lines, often nausea and hours of intense pain. You have my
sympathy.
Then one day I started to get one while I was driving from home to the
local music store. I pulled over, took a deep breath and (I kid you
not) told myself no, you are not going to get a migraine, ain't gonna
happen. It went away almost immediately, and I haven't had one since.
Go figure. Almost certainly pure coincidence. [I wish that would work
for everyone. Sigh.]
JRJ