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FWIW: Data General One Laptop spotted for sale

by Marty＠itgonline.com

I paid $5.00 for my Data General One. It's a piece of junk. The screen is IMPOSSIBLE to read, just as Data General boasts about it (go figure this for something to be proud of) at their web site. It is a large and heavy laptop and from a collector standpoint, in my opinion, isn't worth persuing unless you can get it on the cheap $15.00 to $25.00 maximum as a curiosity. An 8086/8088 system by any other name is an 8086/8088 system. $500.00 is a joke. Dream on. Marty Mintzell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: FWIW: Data General One Laptop spotted for sale Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 3/25/98 1:46 AM On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Greg Troutman wrote: > > > >We have an OLD Data General One Laptop from 1983!!!! > > > > He wants $500 for it. Such a deal :-) > > He also said at the end, "No reasonable offer refused." Just curious, > what would you consider to be a reasonable offer for one of these. Or > perhaps more to the point, exactly what is one of these? ;) The DG/One was a fairly non-descript early 8086 laptop. According to DG's website, it was the "first truly portable" PC and they made 43,000 of them: http://www.dg.com/about/html/dg-one.html I don't know what a reasonable offer would be, but it's apparently more than the $15 I offered :-) GRiD's clamshell-style Compass laptop preceded the DG/One by a couple of years (and the GRiD is *much* cooler, IMHO). Perhaps the DG/One was the first battery-powered PC-compatible laptop? I can't think of an earlier one of the top of my head. -- Doug ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Mar25.014640.1767.33770; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:46:40 -0500 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA10991; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:36:57 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA31470 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:36:49 -0800 Received: from behemoth.host4u.net (behemoth.host4u.net [209.150.128.29]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA06816 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:36:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (yowza@localhost) by behemoth.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA24149 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:36:46 -0600 Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980324232833.32316P-100000(a)behemoth.host4u.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:36:46 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: FWIW: Data General One Laptop spotted for sale In-Reply-To: <3518960C.6C568139(a)crl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Sender: yowza(a)behemoth.host4u.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

28 years, 5 months

Unix source licenses available soon?

by dastar＠wco.com

I just got this message from someone inside SCO. The only reason I don't post his e-mail address is because I don't know if he wanted people bombarding him with questions or requests for information. But I thought this might be of interest in case nobody else has heard. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:42:19 PST From: Dion Johnson To: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)wco.com> Subject: yo I just finished arranging a nearly-free source license for people who want old UNIX sources Edition1-7. There are about 400 people in the PDP-1 Unix Preservation Society! (minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) I work for SCO and did the wrangling with the legal eagles, and yes it was a side project. It costs $100, but we will waive that fee for hardship/justifiable cases -Dion Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

28 years, 5 months

Wargames

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

>Which only goes to show that the spirit of curiosity and challenge that >motivated the rest of us to stay up all night writing code (or playing >Zork) is not dead. > >What's even better is that the younger members of this list have combined >that spirit with a sense of history; they will not be reinventing the >wheel, but will be building on it. > >If you don't know why screens were traditionally 80 columns wide, you don't >know if it's okay to toss that idea aside should the technology allows it. > Why ARE screens 80 Cols wide? >--------------------------------------------------------------------- O- > >Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad >roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." >Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates >San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 5 months

Wargames

by weese＠mind.net

> Yes, in "Wargames," the military did refer to the compuer as WOPR (War > Operations Planned Response), while the creator of the computer, and to the > hero, it was Joshua (the creator's dead son). Not sure what Capn Napalm meant by that, the thing I remember is that "Joshua" was (in addition to being the name of the computer creator's dead son, the light of his life) the secret #2 backdoor password to get in..... _____________________________________________ hoping to someday have half a brain, --- mikey weese(a)mind.net

28 years, 5 months

OS/2, Finally getting closer to what it's worth...

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

Anybody need a paperweight? If it's from someone named "Carp", it's got to be good... >FS: 630 Copies, shrink wrapped, OS/2 ver. 3.0 (Warp) Blue Spine. > >$20. ea. plus s/h & COD. This edition includes the Bonus Pack. > >Yours truly, >Quantalytics, Inc. > >Arthur J. Carp >516.295.3230 (phone & fax, auto-switched) >mailto:quant@dti.net >http://home.dti.net/quant/forsale/forsale.html > > -Bill Richman bill_r(a)inetnebr.com http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r (Home of the COSMAC Elf Simulator!)

28 years, 5 months

System/34 again

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Open the panel below the CE Panel. A bit to your right is a vertical board w/lots of screw terminals. I need the voltages of the screw terminals when the system is running >[Sys/34 and Voltmeters.] >Well. My 34 has power, runs, and I think I can use a voltmeter. >I've measured batteries and such with it. If told what to do, cahnces are good >I can get the voltages you need/ >------- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 5 months

System/34 again

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

> >About 25-50 pounds in weight never mind cost. > ><b)Using a bunch of PC power supplies to power the DC components. ><My first problem is how I trick a PC/AT power supply to stay on when ><it's not hooked up to anything. Do I need to short something? > >Don't do it. First, switching powersupplies get real upset if the are not >loaded to some minimum point, they gernerally don't like running in >parallel and the other is power sequencing. What's power sequencing? ><Next is the problem of pinouts on the 34. There is ground and +5v ><labelled clearly. THere is also a circuit board with lots of screw ><terminals. Could someone tell me the voltages on those (it's a board ><right below the CE panel and a bit on the right)? > >Get and learn to use volmeters. There may be unsafe voltages or currents >at low voltages that can be dangerous. Also miswiring could toast the >machine fully and very completely. I have voltmeters, and know how to use them, but they aren't much use when there is no way to power the thing. > >Allison > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 5 months

Apple ][ clones?

by TOwad＠aol.com

I'd recommend consulting Gaylord Hill <GaylordHil(a)aol.com>. He specializes in Apple II clones. Sincerely, Tom Owad >I used to be a big Apple ][ fan, but I really can't recall any early Apple >clones that match this description: > >"Apple II clone, either a peach or an Apricot, looks like an Apple II, but >has extended keyboard, also has upper and lower case, shift keys work on >all characters, not just on a few like Apple II. Cover is White Plastic, >condition of cover and keyboard good. No label on cover. No identification >on Motherboard."

28 years, 5 months

Commodore 128D for sale

by archive＠navix.net

Greets: A lady contacted me recently with the following description of a pretty good Commodore system she has for sale. I'm not going to get it, so I thought I'd pass it on to you folks. Please reply directly to her at RosemaryConte(a)worldnet.att.net --the message is as follows: I have a Com 128D computer, detachable keybd; 1571 disc dr; MPS 1000 printer; Magnavox RGB Display 80 monitor. Compat w/ Com 64 software; cables, software, etc. I'd like to get $100 for it. -- ___________________________________________________ | Cord G. Coslor : archive(a)navix.net |\ | Deanna S. Wynn : deannasue(a)navix.net | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/4395 | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | PO Box 308 - Peru, NE - 68421 - (402) 872- 3272 | | |___________________________________________________| | \____________________________________________________\|

28 years, 5 months

Mac II problem

by rexstout＠ptld.uswest.net

Here's the message I just sent to ClassicMacs mailing list, I'm too lazy to type it all again ;-) ============================= Just picked up a Mac II 5/80/two 800k FD's for $15(including a datatronics keyboard and an Apple mouse), with an ethernet card that everyone seemedd to think was a second video card... They said whenever they plugged a monitor into it, the computer shutdown. I hope it hasn't been destroyed... Anyways, it came with System 6.0.5, Word 4.0 and Illustrator 88(and tons of documents for both programs), all of which have already been deleted. Problem is that I'm having trouble getting System 7.0 to run. At first I couldn't get it to boot at all from the disk tools disk, then I finally installed it onto one of the three partitions and deleted the Sys6 system folder. Then it still woudn't boot. I took out the ethernet card and my PC Drive card(which I think may be bad). Now it tries two or three times minimum to boot from the hard drive, and usually refuses to boot from the floppy(although that may be fixed now, I'm not sure). The Apple HD SC Setup on the Disk Tools disk did not see the disk, so I went back to my PowerMac which had a copy of a hacked HD SC Setup I had downloaded. Back to the II, where the disk refused to boot. OK, I finally got it to boot from the HD, then I opened the floppy, and then the system folder. Finally the normal System Folder icon is back and it boots again. I launch the hacked HD SC Setup and it sees a disk at SCSI ID 6(I haven't changed that yet, I need to take the HD out and find the info on it), but it can't reformat. It says it can't prepare the disk for initialization, no particular reason is given... Current config right now is 5/80 with the two 800k drives, and the Radius Pivot interface. Any ideas? I'm stumped. ============================= -------------------------------------------------------------- | http://members.tripod.com/~jrollins/index.html - Computers | | http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/1681/ - Star Trek | | orham(a)qth.net list admin call sign coming soon... | --------------------------------------------------------------

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