>First stop it. Second, if you didn't understand it I believe the comment
>was sarcastic IE: we could find you a trs-80 case but since you've been
>such a pain it has become highly unlikely.
Kind of right. I was saying that if it was REALLY NEEDED and you couldn't
ignore a row of 5x4 keys or so on your TRS-80, that there's probably someone
who has either a spare case, or a will to trade their keypad-less TRS for
yours.
>There was no offer to supply one and there was no agreement save for you
>trying to instigate one.
Exactly. However, seeing as it will make a fellow collector happy, should I
stumble across the model you mention, I'll tell you, and probably pay for
half or more of the shipping.
>A trs-80 with a keypad (one of the earliest options!) is historically
>valid. Also historically valid was lower case mod, 2x processor speed up
>and several different ones applied to the cassette read. This is an
>athoritive statment as I was in the employ for TANDY from 1976 through
>1979 and did consulting for another year after that.
Exactly. For instance, I'm getting a A2+ from Jeff Kaneko. At first, I
just knew that I was getting a II+. That was it. Since then, I've been
deligeted to find that it's 64K, has a DA/AD converter, serial cards, a
Pocket Rocket language card, etc. installed. I asked for an Apple II+. I'm
getting one. Sometimes, it's better than what you wanted, sometimes it's
worse, sometimes it's just different.
>If you say you wanted the "first trs80" you should have specified one
>that must have the 170069A PWB, and no mods/option installed. That
>would have gotten you a 4k L1 machine in the first production series
>(under serial number 20,000 or so). You would have had to clarify if
>serial number greater than 0 or 1 was acceptable. Your lack of
>knowledge of RADIO SHACK computers and how they were sold from
>introduction is your loss.
As well as your apparant lack of flexability, and poor eMail writing skills.
In any case, let us "BAD PEOPLE" who "don't care if we've got a conman
on our hands" be bad people with a conman on our hands and STOP BITCHING
ABOUT IT!!! Listen, you didn't get what you wanted. You did get what you
asked for. Cord's been on this list a LOT longer than you have. If we
annoy you, then unsubscribe. END OF STORY.
Tim D. Hotze
Available for trade:
I have two computer memories hard disks of unknown origins. they are
available as the processors on them are 6803s and 6522s in sockets and
good for 6800 hacking. These are 1983-85 vintage.
Also available for trade:
Several copies of CP/M-80 2.2 manuals
The programmers CP/M handbook (Osborne Associates, Andy Johnson-laird)
-- next to cpm alteration guide a must have for bios design. --
mix of other DRI cpm manuals (sid, ddt, mac...), *star manauls (Wordstar,
calcstar...), DbaseII and more.
Roughly 33 boxes of 8" disks with CP/M CPMUG and SIGM volumes on them.
This is a major cache of CPM software only exceeded by what on the WC
cdrom.
Two Visual 1050s, local only too heavy to ship monitor safely. These are
CP/M-3 z80 systems with a 6502 doing the video (with graphics) in a pizza
box case, two 5.25 floppies, provisions for hard disk and matching monitor
and keyboard. I may be able to configure one 10mb hard disk. Disks and
docs (including slipcase manuals) for them as well.
Two 8" disks in cases(power supply) sa800s both working, to heavy to
ship safely (opinion).
One CCS 2200 s100 system (CCS cpu, discus controller, CCS floppy
controller, CCS 4 port serial) and manuals. Circa 1980, shippable at
high cost.
Allison
<Enrico has become SUCH a pain, and it seems like most of the traffic of
<late is a result of his insistence not to let this drop. While he may o
<may not have a valid problem, I no longer care, and based on the way he'
<acting I would suspect the problem is on his end. Because of all of thi
<I'd like to propose a rather drastic solution
<
<Shun Him! (in other words ignore him totally)
This to me is a rehash of the dealing across the pond discussion from
some 3-4 months ago. At the time I was one to say that shipping across
the pond was more aggravation than it was worth even if there was profit
in it. This is an example of why.
Doing trades and shipping internationally are still enough of a annoyance
>from my point of view to avoid them. Enrico's further galvanized me on
that. Shipping is never as trivial as addressing a box and hoping it
gets there and the cost is never trivial, at least to me. So when I do
it I feel I should not be at risk doing it.
Allison
I promise that we CAN. I didn't say anything about willing to. However,
should I come across one, you'll be the first to know.
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: Enrico Tedeschi <e.tedeschi(a)ndirect.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, April 12, 1998 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Asshole
>Is this a promise?
>
>enrico
>
>Hotze wrote:
> I'm sure that we could find a TRS-80 model 1 CASE
>> somewhere for you.
>
>> Tim D. Hotze
>
>--
>========================================================
>Enrico Tedeschi, 54 Easthill Drive, Brighton BN41 2FD, UK
>Tel/fax(+01273) 701650 (24 hours) and 0498 692465 (mobile)
>please visit my website at: <http://www.brighton-uk.com>
>========================================================
>
>
<> <> I have a NOS SwTPc 6800 MP-A CPU board. This was the first SS-50
<>
<> OK, I give up. What is the worls is NOS?
<
<I think he means "New Old Stock". It's just lingo for something out of
<production, but still in new, never-used condition.
Makes more sense than Network Operating System NOS and 6800 in he same
breath! ;-)
Allison
<From: Enrico Tedeschi <e.tedeschi(a)ndirect.co.uk>
<You did not say CAN but you said COULD and that, in my bad understanding
<the English language, is an offer. But I am not going to argue about that
<I gladly accept your kind offer now. Thank you. Hoping to hear from you s
Enrico,
First stop it. Second, if you didn't understand it I believe the comment
was sarcastic IE: we could find you a trs-80 case but since you've been
such a pain it has become highly unlikely.
There was no offer to supply one and there was no agreement save for you
trying to instigate one.
A trs-80 with a keypad (one of the earliest options!) is historically
valid. Also historically valid was lower case mod, 2x processor speed up
and several different ones applied to the cassette read. This is an
athoritive statment as I was in the employ for TANDY from 1976 through
1979 and did consulting for another year after that.
If you say you wanted the "first trs80" you should have specified one
that must have the 170069A PWB, and no mods/option installed. That
would have gotten you a 4k L1 machine in the first production series
(under serial number 20,000 or so). You would have had to clarify if
serial number greater than 0 or 1 was acceptable. Your lack of
knowledge of RADIO SHACK computers and how they were sold from
introduction is your loss.
Allison
In a message dated 98-04-12 07:24:27 EDT, you write:
<< >Hotze wrote:
> I'm sure that we could find a TRS-80 model 1 CASE
>> somewhere for you.
>
>> Tim D. Hotze >>
well, i have a model 1 with a keypad that i could take a hacksaw to...
david
Just wanted to let everyone know that Caldera, which now
owns all Digital Research software, has made CP/M freely
available! I discovered this by accident when I went to
download OpenDOS.
Check it out at:
http://www.caldera.com/dos/html/legacyindex.html
They have a link to an unofficial CP/M page with tons of
other software.
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>> From: "Jeff Kaneko" <Jeff.Kaneko(a)ifrsys.com
>>
>> Guys:
>>
>> Afer looking at a number of responses, Uncle Roger's position
>> seems the most logical to me (besides, one other person suggested
>> this also). I think I'll buy that parts to build this, and just keep
>> it until needed.
>>
>> Building it won't be a priority, though. The MP-A wasn't exactly the
>> best SS-50 CPU available. I have a NOS Thomas Instruments Super CPU,
>> that I've wanted to build for years. Compared with other S-50 boards
>> of that era, it had alot of cool features. I am working on getting a
>> couple of scarce parts for its companion video board.
>>
>> Jeff
From: Bill Yakowenko <yakowenk(a)cs.unc.edu>
>One other thing, before soldering stuff onto that board, make a copy
>of it. (Do photocopiers make decent prints of bare boards?) Once
>a board has chips soldered onto it, it can be a pain to figure out
>which things connect to what. Having a bare-board print could help
>a lot in reverse-engineering the schematic (although I suspect there
>are still MP-A schematics to be had out there). And who knows, you
>might someday want to clone that board.
>
> Cheers,
> Bill.
There are not only schematics, but assembly instructions and a three
color print showing the top traces in red, bottom traces in blue, and
component placement in black.
I picked an MP-Ab bare board and documentation at a hamfest a long
time ago and never used it having gone with Percom's SBC/9 CPU board
and Percom's Electric Window video board.
If anybody absolutely needs copies of the docs, then I will see what
I can do.
Mike
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:06:32 +0300, "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh> wrote:
>>Yeah, but could such a thing be done on Linux/UNIX OS's? I'm guessing
that
{snip}
I'm sure that Microsoft used NT for their implementation, but aren't
there Un*x-based NNTP servers available?? I think that there is a post in
today's digest about it.
Rich Cini/WUGNET
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MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
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