My most recent discard find is a Wang PC-S3-2 . It had had 2 winchester
disks removed before being thrown out, but otherwise seems intact. No
KB , monitor , or FDD's of course. From what I've been able to find on the
net ( Wang CUG) it's an early "Classic PC" but this predates their oldest
listed model specs. There seems to be many more sites on the CPM models
but not on Wang PC's.
The full-size motherboard has Z-80 and 8086 chips and 2 20 pinM ribbon
connecters below two cutouts leading to the HD enclosure ,a centronics
parallell printer, 25 pin serial, and KB ports on the rear. It has 5 half-size
expansion slots .all occupied. One card is labelled PM 101 IBM Mono emulation
and has 2 rear sockets. One is a regular 5pin kb socket and the other an 8pin
din which I imagine is the monitor port. Strangely enough the same din as my
Epson KB. This board is coupled with another by a 10 line ribbon cable. On
either side of these are 2 cards that look identical the bottom-most labelled
PM 021 / 022B Winchester Controller. Both have 20 pin and 10 pin male
ribbon connectors. The top-most card looks like a memory card and has a LED.
It's somewhat sparsely populated with mcm 6665 (motorola mem ?) and low-powered
schotsky chips but traces for many more sockets.
Seems pretty straight forward if it wasn't for the extra 20 pin connectors on
the HD controller cards. Fdd connectors ? My lack of technical knowledge is
showing. Maybe because of the company I'm keeping on this techno-whiz m-list.
It's intimidating. :^)
I believe Wang had it's own proprietory system and I did d-l a set-up from the
Wang CUG site but info on this beast seems scarce, tho IIRC they were widely
used in business operations. Anyone ??
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
Hmmm 31 messages downloaded.
Score ?
Subject 19 Assholes errmm no thats The PC's Soviet
3 Star Treck At least more interesting than US dicks are
bigger than Russian dicks
9 classiccmp related
SAM !!!!!! I might have to rethink things.
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
I dunno if this guy's going to privately e-mail me or send an e-mail to
ClassicCmp, but there's this programmer that I know that seems interested in
early Soviet computers. I'll see what I can see... the A2 clone sounds
cool, if it had a decent 6502/6502 clone.
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: Max Eskin <maxeskin(a)hotmail.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, April 16, 1998 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: The PC's Soviet?
>
>>Does anyone on the list have any Soviet-manufactured systems? This
>might
>>be a good thing to look for when (whoever it was that wrote the list
>that
>>he was going to Hungary soon) goes over there.
>>
>Do Russian slide rules coun
>
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> All right, I have taken this for a while, but no more. This ignorance
> about Soviet technology and abilities is ridiculous. I think you
> people have kept your anti-communist opinions along with you IBM
> 704s.
>
> Although the USSR certainly had ridiculous administration, and its
> technology was not very modern, there were many advances by the
> soviet union, and it now has just as much technology as the US.
>
The soviets always had comparable technology, but were limited by
inefficient manufacturing and logistics. Those only exposed to western
design philosophy tend to belittle soviet engineers because of the
seemingly crude appearance of their equipment, but they had to meet
vastly different product requirements. Their export market was the
underdeveloped third world, no infrastructure at all. When your target
market is some place like Mongolia, Eritrea or South Yemen you have an
entirely different set of design parameters. There is no Radio Shack
down the corner, no parts store in town, no UPS delivery service. Even
literacy is at a premium. Yet they were able to deliver relatively
sophisticated equipment to places like this, and were able to maintain
it locally. I for one have a great respect for soviet engineers like
Mikoyan or Antonov, even Mikhail Kalashnikov, the guy who designed so
well he worked himself right out of a job.
Jack Peacock
This Trainer was called the Dyna-Micro
Here is the Memory allocation:
Hi Lo
000 000 \
> Key Prom
000 377 /
001 000 \
> Optional ROM
002 377 /
002 000 \
> Optional R/W Memory
003 377 /
003 000 \
> R/W Memory
003 377 /
004 000 \
> Available for user expansion
377 377 /
Will post more later
Does anyone knows where I can find a 1702 programmed with KEX?
Francois
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-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Roberts <groberts(a)mitre.org>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 9:12 PM
Subject: 8080 Trainer - more info
>Tony Duell originally asked this but the group may be interested. The MMD1
>8080 trainer was based on a design by Jonathan Titus and Company (Tychon
>Inc.) and was apparently described in a series of articles in the May-July
>1976 Radio Electronics, however it is also described in "The 8080a
Bugbook",
>a Howard Sams book (ISBN 0-672-21447-4), 1977.
>
>Tony: the two ROM sockets are for 1702 ROMS. The very simple but efficient
>monitor, called KEX for "Keyboard Executive", easily fits in the 256 byte
>space of one of these, leaving ROM socket 1 for "expansion".
>
>I don't have access to the original articles on this unit but it was easy
>enough to reverse engineer the assembly listing of KEX, below. I'd give
>y'all instructions on using the monitor but that would take the fun out of
>reading the source listing! i've also stuck the HEX file at the end of the
>listing. have fun!
>
>Does anyone on the list have any Soviet-manufactured systems? This
might
>be a good thing to look for when (whoever it was that wrote the list
that
>he was going to Hungary soon) goes over there.
>
Do Russian slide rules coun
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At 12:10 4/16/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Does anyone on the list have any Soviet-manufactured systems? This might
>be a good thing to look for when (whoever it was that wrote the list that
>he was going to Hungary soon) goes over there.
Er.... When we fell heir to the big heap of Apple stuff outside Sacramento,
one of the things we found when we dug in a bit was a Soviet Apple ][ clone
called an Elektronika. I can't quote chapter and verse because we haven't
really unbuttoned it yet, but it would seem that the really astounding part
isn't the computer, it's the monitor. We also have schematics and, when I
have a bit more (i. e. nonzero) free time, I'm going to ferret out someone
who can read them. Max would probably be a good start!
Also, for a source on this, remember that in _TCJ_ a guy named Helmut
Jungkunz wrote a bunch of columns about both Soviet and East German computers.
__________________________________________
Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
http://www.chac.org/index.html
Computer History Association of California
I check on this subject every 6 months whether I need to or not. What
happened to this invaluable resource? Has it ever been posted anywhere?
thanks
Kai
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kai Kaltenbach
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 10:56 AM
> To: 'classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu'
> Subject: RE: Altair scans update
>
> Whatever happened to these?
>
> thanks
>
> Kai
>
> ----------
> From: Richard A. Cini, Jr.[SMTP:rcini@classic.msn.com]
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 1997 5:31 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Altair scans update
>
> For those who have asked...
>
> The Altair scans are ready to post, I just have to ZIP them up and
> send the
> tape to Bill Whitson. Does anyone have his physical address??
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Rich Cini/WUGNET
> <rcini(a)msn.com>
> - ClubWin Charter Member (6)
> - MCP Windows 95/Netowrking
>
Can anybody help this guy out?
-- Doug
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:06:52 -0400
From: Mark Frey <markfrey(a)bright.net>
To: Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com>
Subject: Re: Epson HX40
I need it to control a traffic sign board like you see on highway
construction projects. Lets just say that these things are hard to find.
The manufacturer has a EPROM they plug into the HX40 with the program.
At 12:42 AM 4/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I just got an HX-20, and I've got some other machines that have a similar
>form factor (like the TRS-80 Model 100), but no HX-40. Why are you
>looking for that model specifically?
>
>-- Doug
>
>On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Mark wrote:
>
>> I need an Epson HX-40 to actually use. Might you have one????
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> markfrey(a)bright.net
>>
>
>
>
Mark Frey
