Funny you should mention the Macquarium. Yesterday on my way home I
stopped at a used computer store and found a Mac Plus Macquarium with
the original documentation dated 1992 (a mere $60.00 for a butchered
Mac... I wouldn't buy one because I don't think it's cute and don't
want to encourage this practice). The top of the case had been quite
roughly gouged out, a glass tank fitted inside the case. I'd seen this
on the web before but thought it was a joke.....
Marty
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Subject: Re: Lost Treasures (was: Cray-1)
Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet
Date: 4/30/98 6:45 PM
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Doug Yowza wrote:
> > Thankfully, the metal/plastic boxes our old computers were made with have
> > virtually no value as 'interior decorations' (yet). However, there could
be
> > exceptions for maybe a couple of models. I recall some list members here
> > had commented upon some as being rather attractive in appearance. I
haven't
> > come across those yet.
>
> Hmm, a list of computers that look good enough to display as art? Here's
> mine (most are laptops):
>
> IMSAI 8080
> GRiD Compass
> Ampere WS1
> MINDSET PC (good enough for MOMA, anyway)
> NeXT Cube
> eMate 300
Of course you guys have heard of converting a Mac into a fish tnak?
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Hmm, must be too early... I suddenly remembered a situation like this I
had with a motherboard a few years back...
check the ISA slots; make sure nobody's stuck a card in there and
mangled a few of the pins. This board I was given had the same trouble,
and a couple of the pins were shorting out and the system was shutting
it down. Nice three-second fix once I'd found the problem!! :)
good luck,
Jules
>
Off Topic posts are the worst, second comes discussions about computers less
than ten years old (which eventually fall in the off topic category)
Try to locate the List FAQ to find out more (it doesn't list the flame war
starters but if you can stick to the guidelines you'll be OK).
Then again I'm not in charge of this list either.
As a general rule this is a list for the discussion of more than ten year
old computer equipment.
Use plain text to send messages.
Be nice and have fun.
>Thanks for the tip. Let me know if there are any other no-no's or flame
bait.
>
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Doug:
> Is the reason those old radio/phonograph boxes are not being thrown
> away is that noone notice the cover and thinks it's just a pretty
> dresser w/o drawers :)? Also hideaway sewing machines.
:-) I doubt it...
The real crime is those who buy sewing machines with pedestals and
treadles, throw away the sewing machine and turn the pedestal into an
olde worlde iron framed coffee table. I am told by a friend in the
trade that this is v. common.
> Of course, the System/36 (I think, maybe not) was built into a desk.
There was a system/36 that was the size of a desk pedestal but I never
saw that particular variant. The system/32 (and possibly the s/38?) had
a desk built into _it_...
> And then there were the teletypes (are the ones that are mostly used
> as examples of teletypes ASR-33?), printers, etc.
Yes.
Philip.
<Actually, the VT100 does have a rather nice look to it. If you insist
<that only computers go on the above list, I'll list it as a VT103.
If it has to be a computer bow about a VT180 (CP/M) or PDT-11/130?
Allison
On Apr 30, 9:40, Christian Fandt wrote:
> By the way, a second, more minor problem was my wife. When I was
describing
> the size of the 9370 system before I brought it home, here eyes got real
> big and she stated: "Just where are you going to put that!??!"
This sounds familiar :-)
> And when I
> got two six foot tall 19"rack cabinets from an old machine controller at
> work that I tore down, I temporarily set them in the new garage sometime
> before we moved in. She spied them, stared at them for a few seconds and
> asked "What are _those_ monstrosities?" I had to do some quick
explaining
Even more familair :-)
> Wish I could afford a heated, insulated garage.
Just leave one or two running, like I do.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
The speakers MIGHT be the problem. There is a pair of them, each
twice the size of an IMSAI, right beneath the macintosh
>
>>
>> I posted this a few weeks back, but noone answered, so I'll ask it
>> again.
>
>Oh, what the heck, I'll make a few guesses...
>
>> There is a certain Macintosh 5400/180 at my school whose hard drive
>> crashed about a month and a half ago. When it tried to start, it
>> wouldn't really seek, just made a ticking noise and the LED would
>
>Is the disk spinning at this point? (feel the drive itself). Is it just
>that the positioner is not geting the heads where they should be?
>
>> flash. So, we took it out, ordered another one. A few days later,
>> it died the same death. So now we have another one. My ethics don't
>> allow me to just put in a hard drive knowing it will be destroyed.
>> What should I do? One hint is that the Macintosh is in a soundproof
>> booth, and is powered from the booth, which is plugged in. But, the
>> mac is plugged in via a "surge protector".
>> Ideas? Could it be bad power? Any way to check?
>
>It _could_ be a PSU problem, but IMHO it's unlikely, unless other parts
>of the mac are failing as well. If the disk is spinning and the rest of
>the mac is OK, I'd not suspect power problems at this time.
>
>Are there any strong magnetic fields (say _large_ speakers) very close
to
>it? I'm wondering if the servo information on the disks is being
>corrupted so the positioner can't lock onto a track.
>
>-tony
>
>
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>Some sick minded person might gut a NeXT cube and use it as >a little
stool for flowers at an exhibit of abstract art ;) >
In the early S-100 days (1975) the engineering lab I worked in got an
early Altair (we needed small cheap computers to embed in environmental
monitoring instruments). A few months later we got one of the first
IMSAIs. After about 3 minutes of comparing the two, we voted to use
IMSAIs and the Altair was relegated to being the doorstop for the lab
doors. I assume it wound up in a surplus action some number of years
after I left. BTW, the embedded controller we actually used in the
instruments was a single board Intel 8080, their evaluation kit board,
the precursor to Multibus. We used the IMSAIs to develop and test the
code in the lab.
Jack Peacock
Well, I recall from The Secret Guide To Computers that early
Timex Sinclairs were used as doorstops at Timex (or whatever).
Some sick minded person might gut a NeXT cube and use it as a
little stool for flowers at an exhibit of abstract art ;)
>
>At 08:56 30-04-98 -0600, "Jeff Kaneko" <Jeff.Kaneko(a)ifrsys.com> wrote:
>>
>>> At 17:30 29-04-98 +0000, Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk wrote:
>>> >Doug:
>>> >
>>> >> Is the reason those old radio/phonograph boxes are not being
thrown
>>> >> away is that noone notice the cover and thinks it's just a pretty
> --- snippers ---
>
>>> There were folks who took a late-20's/early 30's radio which was
built into
>>> a beautiful wooden cabinet and turned it into a piece of furniture
by
>>> gutting it. Then there were the late 40's and early 50's TV cabinets
which
>>> met the same fate. At least I've rescued several of each of these
kinds of
>>> receivers for my collection.
>>
>>Then there was this girl I was dating while I lived in Baltimore in
>>the early 80's. Her dad had a vintage (early 20th cent.)'magneto'
>>(u-crank-it) telephone he mounted on the wall in their basement as a
>>conversation piece. He felt it was 'too heavy' so before mounting
>>it he gutted the thing. So many historic relics have been destroyed
>>in the name of 'interior decoration'.
>
>Some people have no clue. But in retrospect to that statement, those
people
>are probably not technically oriented like we are so there is no
awareness
>of anything's actual worth as a technological collectable.
>
>Thankfully, the metal/plastic boxes our old computers were made with
have
>virtually no value as 'interior decorations' (yet). However, there
could be
>exceptions for maybe a couple of models. I recall some list members
here
>had commented upon some as being rather attractive in appearance. I
haven't
>come across those yet.
>
>
>
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