In a message dated 98-05-14 05:40:03 EDT, you write:
<< Sorry, as it seems that I've become the maker of off-topic content, but now
after I've installed OS/2 (first 6 disks) Warp 3, using FAT (High
Performance File System didn't work), I get:
OS/2 !! SYS01475
OS/2 !! SYS02027 >>
if i remember correctly, that's the os2 version of: non system disk or disk
error. you might have to remove the floppy from a: drive or do a sysinstx
command to sys the hard drive.
david
Qoo, Tim!
At 12:38 14.05.98 +0300, you wrote:
>after I've installed OS/2 (first 6 disks) Warp 3, using FAT (High
>Performance File System didn't work), I get:
Wadda hell...
>OS/2 !! SYS01475
>OS/2 !! SYS02027
>
>So anyway, it freezes like that. This, BTW, is on a 2.1GB HDD, with no
>other OS'es currently installed.
It may be 2.1G that causes the problem - if it is used as single partition.
I heard that Warp3 isn't too well in handling big partitions. Try breaking
it into smaller pieces (<1G)
hope that helps,
-andy
Despite my former comments I'd say computers do have a place in education
as do television.
I went through most of school as an avid non-writer, managed good grades
despite it even in english so long as writing was not required. It was
word processing or actually a simple editor and printer that open the door
to writing, somehow made it less painful. It didn't help my bizzare
grammer or spelling but at least I wrote. The catalyst was writing code
and having to document it. Did computers help, yes. It wasn't pacman
or clicking icons just using the tool for what it can do best. What was
best was simply allowing me to bang down words and then peice them
together in some sensible way.
As to what computer to use, old! why old, no matter what they have
new now it will be old it a few years when they have to apply it. It's
better they understand so that the knowledge can be applied rather than
keystrokes. Students would do better to learn VI and ED than the latest
version of QARK or Word.
Allison
>Seem to remember I had the same problem when I tried to find out info
>about my /// a few years back... back then WAP had no web site, email or
>anything that I could find, which made life difficult for those of us
>stuck in the UK... hopefully things have progressed a little by now!
>
>(If you find a web address could you post it here please?)
http://www.wap.org/
-- Kirk
>I did pick up another Apple peripheral at the same time, which may offer a
>clue. It's a Modem 1200, Model A9M0301. The "clue", assuming it came
>from the same source, is the 8-pin mini-DIN connector. I don't know what
>uses that kind of connection for the serial port.
>
The //gs and Macs do, maybe the later //c or //c+
>Did the Apple 3.5" Drive have a mechanical eject? Fully manual, I mean,
>not just a push-button that tells the motorized ejection mechanism to wake
>up. Very un-Mac-like.
The manual eject was only on the drives designed for the // series.
-- Kirk
>> [wap]...
>>Thanks! We'll jump right over the the web pa....oh, you didn't post one.
>>Ok then we'll just call the phone numbe...oops, you didn't give us that
>>either. Ok, well I guess we'll just have to do it the hard way and write
>>a letter to...hmmm, no physical address.
:*)
Seem to remember I had the same problem when I tried to find out info
about my /// a few years back... back then WAP had no web site, email or
anything that I could find, which made life difficult for those of us
stuck in the UK... hopefully things have progressed a little by now!
(If you find a web address could you post it here please?)
cheers,
Jules
>
Greetings,
Last week, along with a boxload of other stuff, I picked up an external
3.5" floppy drive that apears to be intended for Apple machines.
It's a DS800 from DataSpace Corporation.
It physically plugs into my Apple //c, but I can't get the machine to
recognize it. The drive makes a noise when I power up the computer, but
that's all. Attempts to access S6, D2 or any other slot and drive
combination doesn't get anywhere.
It DOES respond to my Mac 512K, though. I plugged it into that machine
and shoved a Mac-formatted disk in it, and an icon and open window popped
up.
I don't think the drive can be intended for the Mac, though, because it's
got a MECHANICAL eject mechanism. In fact I was able to eject that Mac
disk (write protected, thankfully ;) ) and the Mac didn't notice.
Is there something I need to do to get my //c to recognize the drive? Or
is it intended for use on a //gs? Or did this company make a line of
dangerous Mac peripherals in an attempt to give the platform a bad name
for an overabundance of disk corruptions? ;)
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
Sorry, as it seems that I've become the maker of off-topic content, but now
after I've installed OS/2 (first 6 disks) Warp 3, using FAT (High
Performance File System didn't work), I get:
OS/2 !! SYS01475
OS/2 !! SYS02027
So anyway, it freezes like that. This, BTW, is on a 2.1GB HDD, with no
other OS'es currently installed.
Ciao,
Tim D. Hotze
I just spent Saturday morning in an Ali Babas cave of old computers
ranging form a huge 6ft tall by 10 ft wide analogue computer through a
few DEC machines (see below, and old ICT 1301, a Telefunken TR4 a
burroughs 1800, a few French minicomputers and quite a number of
unidentified systems. Included were lots of tape and disk drives, boxes
of documentationa nd software. Just a dream come true!
The collection belongs to ACONIT : "l'Association pour le Conservation
de Informatique et Telematique" I guess that's pretty clear even to non
french speakers. It has been accumulated over since 1985 and is
currently stored in a warehouse in a town called Voiron near Grenoble.
ACONIT has acquired larger and more convenient premisies in Grenoble
itself and will be moving the collection there later this year and we
plan on setting up workshops etc to restore as many of these systems as
possible.
Among the DEC machines I saw was a complete PDP-9. How rare are these?
Anyways, if anyone is in the Grenoble region later on in the year drop
me a line and I can provide a personally conducted guided tour of what
we have.
I'll keep you all informed of what we are doing as thngs develop.
Regards,
Hans B Pufal
At 09:44 AM 5/13/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
> Personally, I believe the "computer literacy in schools is everything"
> movement is a result of inept teachers and a haywire NEA. Here in the
> Washington, D.C. area I have read reports of teachers pushing
> 'invented' spelling as a method to avoid hurting the challenged
> student's self esteem. Educators seem to think the student will
Ummm... I don't doubt someone came up with this, but I doubt that it is
widespread; If one teacher does it, the media pick it up and report it as
if everyone was doing it, and of course the public loves to think that all
teachers are idiots just goofing off until they can retire.
I think it's jealousy over this (imaginary) summer vacation.
Most teachers are extremely hard working, committed educators who put a lot
of their own time and money into their classes. My girlfriend (admittedly,
one of the most insane) arrives at school before 7am (everyday) and rarely
leaves before 5pm. She spends her evenings and weekends doing schoolwork.
She spends her summers planning the next year and building various
curriculum. And she works with the other teachers all the time, so she's
not alone.
The problem is partially a lack of funding for schools and very a lack of
adequate parenting. Rachel sent home some work for the kids to do with
their parents one time; she got one back where the father had written (on
both sides, in big, red letters) that his kid can't do such advanced work
(they'd been doing it in class all week) and that "I AM NOT A TEACHER".
With a father like that, it's a wonder that the kid knows how to go to the
bathroom.
There are other kids: one whose parents come to school at lunch time to
take him to the bathroom and feed him his lunch (first grade, no kidding),
and a kid who is almost completely blind, yet even after the social worker
took him to the eye doctor (with her own money) still doesn't have glasses.
Kids whose parents beat them, who are being raised by grandparents because
their parents don't want them, kids who see people shot in real life, as
well as on TV. And there are kids who are taught to hate because of skin
color or religion, or whatever. Kids that are taught that the proper
response to a disagreement is hit. Kids that are ignored at home, left on
their own with a babysitter or nanny, or worse, to wander the neighborhood.
Kids that are allowed, even encouraged, if it will shut them up, to watch
stuff on telly that even *I* won't watch.
Sure, there are bad teachers out there, just as there are bad mechanics,
programmers, doctors, etc. But most of them work harder than probably
anybody on this list, and probably for a lot less money.
But parents don't even take responsibility for checking out the teachers.
There are also different styles of teaching; you wouldn't drop your volvo
off at a Land Rover mechanic, would you? But most parents don't bother to
see (or ask) if a teacher's style is the best for their kids.
Most parents pay more attention to whether or not their kids have brushed
their teeth than whether or not they've done their homework.
Don't put the blame on the teachers without putting it on the parents as well.
> in software will correct them. What a cop out. I don't believe
> students should be introduced to computers (read: word
> processors/calculators) until the first year of high school after
> mastering basic reading, comprehension, writing and math skills.
Computers are a very valuable tool for teaching those very skills. To deny
kids access to them is to slow them down.
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