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VCF-Berlin, 2015

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Rich Alderson > I've .. eliminated the following possibilities: Using the decsystem10 System Reference Manual (3rd Edition, August '74), I can additionally eliminate: Only 2 rows of lights: DC10 (picture here doesn't have 5 rows, per below?) > Only 3 rows of lights: > ME10 memory > MF10 memory > TD10 DECtape controller DA10 MA10 MB10 MD10 > 5 rows of lights: > KI-10 CPU bays Would love a picture of these; see pg. F1-5 for why! :-) > RH10 Massbus interface > DAS33 memory buffer > DL10 > DC10 KA10 CPU bays > 4 rows of lights, but do not match: > RP10C disk controller > DF10C > DA28-C > RC10 BA10 DS10 TM10 That's getting to be a pretty complete list... Noel

10 years, 6 months

VCF-Berlin, 2015

by mhs.stein＠gmail.com

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack Rubin" <j at ckrubin.us> > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:13 PM > > Here are some of my photos from VCF-Berlin - > http://tinyurl.com/vcfb-2015 . More narrative is > at the Vintage Computer Forum - > http://tinyurl.com/vcfb-vcfd . Enjoy - I > certainly did! > > Jack > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Stein" <mhs.stein at gmail.com> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 11:30 AM > Hi Jack, > > Unfortunately I can't access the pictures on VCF ... etc. Getting back to the point before this went seriously off-topic, are other non-VCF-members also unable to see these pictures on VCF? If so, would it make sense when posting things like this on VCF to use links instead of or in addition to uploading and embedding them there? m

10 years, 6 months

Chuck Forsberg died on 9/24. :(

by geneb＠deltasoft.com

Here's the obituary: http://www.anewtradition.com/obituaries/obituary/12060_Charles_Alton_Forsbe… g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

10 years, 6 months

Micro-Altair tape interface

by dave＠661.org

As I finally complete my Micro-Altair kit from Briel Computers, my thoughts turn to the question of how I can get an audio tape interface working on this machine. I understand that the MITS tape controller is essentially a serial port with a simple modem bolted on the rear. The Micro-Altair has only one serial port, coming off the ramdisk board, which will be used for the console (no, I don't want to use the built-in terminal). How can a second serial port be added to this machine? Then for recognizing Kansas City tape tones, I suppose I could clone the circuitry of the tape drive modem. Then I realized I could make an Arduino do this with a handful of other common parts. I could make it recognize Tarbell and other tape formats. Has anyone else done this sort of thing? -- David Griffith dave at 661.org A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

10 years, 6 months

Vintage Mac & PC sale @ VCF recycling warehouse

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

After a dozen years I'm shutting down my e-waste recycling business. In that time I managed to accumulate a lot of interesting things, including a lot of vintage PCs that are from a bygone era and have enough unique features to make them collectible. I have models from various brands including Packard Bell, Acer, HP, Compaq, Leading Edge, etc. There's also a stack of at least half a dozen restorable IBM PCs (model 5150). I also have a huge selection of Macs, from some 90s and even 80s models (Mac SE) all the way through the return of Jobs era with the iMac and the G3's, G4's (aluminum case servers), etc., plus laptops. I have every iMac color. I was planning to ripen these to 20 years old before I sold them on eBay for silly sums but I'll start letting them go still green and you can ripen them in your garage. Keyboards and mice also available to make complete systems. I also have lots of other vintage electronics, including whole items and parts, like test equipment, some older radio stuff (tubes), &c. Plus a lot of other cool/useful/practical stuff. Of course there will be some much more vintagey computers available as well but those will be selling for "real" money. Everything above is offered for cheap. If you'd like to come roam the warehouse in Livermore and shop for bargains then send me an e-mail and we'll set up an appointment. At this point I'm available through November 15th here. After that, everyone just goes away. Thanks! -- Sellam ibn Abraham VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. The truth is always simple. * * * NOTICE * * * Due to the insecure nature of the medium over which this message has been transmitted, no statement made in this writing may be considered reliable for any purpose either express or implied. The contents of this message are appropriate for entertainment and/or informational purposes only. The right of the people to be secure in their papers against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated.

10 years, 6 months

IBM z890

by connork＠connorsdomain.com

I recently won an IBM z890 via auction for $237. It was a very interesting adventure to retrieve this machine since it weighs 1500LBS on a good day, and well myself only clocking in around 115LBS I needed the help of a few friends and family to get this thing into the basement... I stripped the machine down to its bare rack to get it into the basement safely, although the rack itself I calculated to weigh about 800LBS itself. I'd say the most difficult part was the excavation we had to do to get it to fit under the deck! It was a REALLY tight fit as you will see in the photos. It took two trips to get it all, one with the truck alone to remove most of the innards and another with the trailer to grab the rest out of the rack and the rack itself. Its already in the basement and most of the way back together, just running the wiring internally for it then I need to wire up a 240v 30a outlet once we get the new breaker box in since there is no more room in the current box. Photos of the whole adventure: http://imgur.com/a/5uWit I plan to pickup an SAN based SCSI box to install Linux and play with. As far as I know I can't install any IBM OS' this way, I would need FICON or ESCON type storage to boot anything like z/OS. (Read EXPENSIVE!) As far as I know I can grab one of these boxes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/201459314771 And hook this up to a FICON interface and it will act as storage via FCP as a SAN. This 'should' allow me to use SCSI devices like an array of hard drives to install Linux. I'm obviously not very familiar with the z-series but I have been trying to read up and learn about everything. Let me know if my thought process and info are correct, also any suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated! -Connor K

10 years, 6 months

sort by date back in google groups searches

by aek＠bitsavers.org

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/classiccmp|sort:date for example

10 years, 6 months

Terminology [was RE: IBM z890]

by RichA＠LivingComputerMuseum.org

Mike Ross Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 7:15 PM > One does not boot a mainframe; one IPLs it. :) Only if said mainframe is from a company with HQ in Armonk, NY. ;-> You know, the same company that does not have dis[kc]s, but DASD. Rich Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Living Computer Museum 2245 1st Avenue S Seattle, WA 98134 mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

10 years, 6 months

Xerox 6085 and Intel MDS II - Value?

by tomjmoss＠googlemail.com

Hi all, I'm in need of a new cabin and might be willing to part with a couple of my more unusual systems to fund it. I have a complete Xerox 6085 with monitor, keyboard, mouse, and tape drive in very good visual condition, with only a few scuffs on the case and some minor yellowing on the keyboard and mouse. The card slots are fully populated, but I haven't check how much RAM is installed yet. It has a working hard drive but no OS. It boots up and IIRC passes the self test. I don't have a floppy drive for it but could wire one up to further test if anyone has a diagram. I also have two Intel MDS IIs, the one I'm thinking of selling currently lights up but doesn't display anything on the monitor. I also have various boxed ICE devices (8085/6/8), software (haven't tried reading it, some of which isn't on bitsavers yet), and manuals for everything. Has anyone seen these sell in the past? All I could find was an ebay listing for a badly damaged Xerox base unit for $500. I live in England, but would be willing to ship worldwide. Regards, -Tom

10 years, 6 months

Fw: SCA drives - any interest?

by mhs.stein＠gmail.com

Duh! In the immortal words of Emily Litella: Never mind. I keep forgetting that I still have a couple of Proliants, ML370s as it turns out; not quite the same bay, but probably close enough. m ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Stein" <mhs.stein at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:23 AM Subject: Re: SCA drives - any interest? >I have a couple of 6-drive hot swap bays that some of these drives came out of; >unfortunately I didn't make a note of what systems they came out of but they >look like the bay in this Proliant ML370: > http://techtradepartners.squarespace.com/blog/2011/1/3/we-practice-what-we-… > > although this 5500 looks vaguely familiar and there are two of these bays...: > http://tempcomgauper.blog.com/2014/04/06/compaq-proliant-5500-server/ > > In any case, they interface through a 68-pin SCSI connector and a 6-pin power > connector; by any chance would anyone know where I could find the pinout for > that power connector? > > Maybe this isn't the best place to ask; is there a forum where server fans > hang out? > > Thanks, > > mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zane Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: SCA drives - any interest? > > > > On Nov 2, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote: > >> On 11/02/2015 08:54 AM, Mike Stein wrote: >> >>> In case anyone is looking for the 'caddies' it looks like they're >>> mostly HP/Compaq, including several dummies; I scrapped more IBM >>> servers than HP, but to my surprise I only found two IBM units. >> >> The nice thing about SCA drives is that adapters for narrow- or wide-SCSI >> are/used to be available. I've run SCA drives with old Power Macintoshes, >> for example. >> >> I don't know if it's still true, but high-performance SCA drives do tend to >> run pretty hot. >> >> --Chuck > > I have one or two of those adapters somewhere. Any SCA drives I've used, have > been quite hot, which is why I run them in external enclosures intended for > them. It's rare to find ones that run at less than 7200rpm, most are 10k or > 15k. > > Zane > > >

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