>>Do you think that there is any chance that Microsoft is now so big
that
it can afford better lawyers that the Department of Justice?
Good chance, after all IBM beat the DOJ, I hope Bill can too. History
shows the DOJ can't sustain long drawn out proceedings against large,
well-funded companies. In this case attrition works in favor of MS, not
against it. Let's hope Gates hangs tough and keeps the DOJ do-gooders
out of the computer business.
Jack Peacock
At 10:49 PM 5/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> Toshiba T1000
>
>Very common, but worth $50 on eBay!
I think just about everything is worth at least $50 on ebay... 8^) (Not
too common, it's my first.)
>> HP 110
>
>Nice, one of the first clam-shell laptops (after the GRiD Compass, and
>before the DG/One). I hope you have HP-IL cables and software!
I believe it has PC2622 (precursor to Reflections by WRQ) in ROM? (HP Term
emulator). Anyway, I've got 1 HP-IL cable (from an HP75D) but am still in
search of an appropriate PS.
>Army surplus or what?
Nope, HMR. Btw, one of the 1520's (iirc) had a sheet of paper taped to it,
a print-out from some fixed assets pgm. Listed the purchase date (iirc) as
12/89, and the original cost as $4800+. Current (depreciated) value is
$0... 8^)
>> Is the DB25 for an external floppy,
>> since the HD seems to be where the floppy should be?
>
>Right again. The external floppy seems to be hard to find. I should have
>a couple of them later this week, though :-)
Perhaps the ones I picked up will fit; I'll have to give it a try?
>
>> The HD makes some
>> rather unhappy noises, though it seems to work fine; anyone have any
>> suggestions for the best way to get the data/OS off the hard drive in case
>> of failure? (Just copy to floppies?) It comes up in something called
>> (iirc) InteGRiD; anyone know anything about this?
>
>InteGRiD is a version of GRiD/OS that you can boot from MS-DOS (usually by
>running GRID.EXE). I've never seen InteGRiD in a machine that didn't also
>have MS-DOS on it. If you have MS-DOS, you can just use laplink. If you
>don't have MS-DOS, you'll need a GRiDServer or a floppy.
I was able to drop to DOS, so I'll see if I can get laplink onto it. But
hopefully the floppy drives will work. You wouldn't know what type of HD
is in there, would you?
>Reprinted w/o permission from Newsbytes:
>
><<
[...]
>European marketplace. The T1000 model which weighs in at 2.9 kg (or about
[...]
>(about US$ 1400), is supplied with MS-DOS 3.2 and a 3.5 inch disk drive.
>This model, which replaces the old T1100, is designed to fill in the gap
[...]
>>>
Interesting. Toshiba's spec files say it came with MS-DOS 2.11. They seem
to have trouble keeping their model numbers in order. 8^)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Desie Hay <desieh(a)southcom.com.au>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Rare systems] & Garry Kildor
>yes well, I can't spell, and I think that Garry Kildor could have been the
>bill gates of today if he had played his cards right
I'm sure a lot of people wish Bill Gates were in Gary's shoes (so to speak).
I've got some Compute Magazines from the '80s, and some ST Informers (and a
few misc. other mags) if anyone is interested.
Technically, they belong to ABACUS, the Atari Bay Area Computer Users
Society, so I'd like to get something for the club for them. (Or, offer me
portable computer stuff, donald duck stuff, or miniature Land Rovers and
I'll make a contribution on your behalf for them.)
e-mail me privately if interested. Thanks!
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Digging thru the VAX 780 manuals...
They have here some crud on how the microcode works. Where it starts and ends,
field definitions, etc.
I know basically how microcode works. It's the one-cycle instructions like
"gate data bus to address bus" or "gate data bus to ALU".
One MOV can be 2-5 microinstructions.
The large question I have is: How does the MOV translate to microcode?
Does the VAX figure a microcode offset based on the opcode? Is there a table
of entry points somewhere? How is this done?
Another thing, the VAX 780 was microcoded from the console RX01. Does anyone
have a copy of that RX01? Can anyone get a disk image? What else was on there?
(RT-11? P/OS?)
Just being annoying...
-------
Speaking of Zenith 248 computers, does anybody have a guesstimate on
the amount of tempested Zenith 248's produced? They typically are
labelled Zenith Inteq.
Marty
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Date: 5/21/98 1:18 AM
Ward Donald Griffiths III wrote:
> George Currie wrote:
>
> > Recently acquired a Heathkit computer. Looks to be a pc compatable (din
> > keyboard plug, 1/2 height 5 /14, etc). Plate on back says model U 148.
Any
> > clues?
>
> I forget exactly when Zenith folded the operation, but I am willing
> to hazard a guess that _any_ Heath product is a classic under the
> rules of this mailing list. Even if it was a do-it-yourself multi-
> meter.
I'm sure all the computers are but some training items are not since they
still
do
training. There is a mailing list like this for Heath enthusiasts but it deals
with ham equipment and test equipment and all that is classic and antique in
nature. I have a Heath tube tester that dates back to 1967 myself and there
are
people that have items back to some of the first kits and unbuilt kits as
well.
The Z248's I have are dated 1987 and 1888 so I guess they qualify for this
list.
Zenith Data Systems is now a separate company and has a web page at
http://www.zds.com and it appears that their main focus is government and
corporate machines rather than the everyday person.
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At 12:16 PM 5/20/98 +0100, you wrote:
>(one for regular posting to the list maybe? a list of good ftp sites /
>web sites for various machines... or de we have a regular FAQ anyway?)
I try to collect relevant URL's for each machine in my collection (and
recommend others do so as well) and put links to them on my web pages for
that machine.
So, if anyone knows of any pages related to any of the machines I have (see
<http://www.sinasohn.com/clascomp/> for an almost up-to-date list), I would
love to hear of them, even if I don't have a page for that specific machine
yet.
Other than that, CHAC has a pretty good list (go to <http://www.chac.org/>)
even though I'm not on it yet. 8^( (Kip has a good excuse, though -- he's
been writing (and rewriting everytime the Justice Dept has a press
conference) a book on Win98.)
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At 10:17 PM 5/19/98 -0400, you wrote:
>> anybody have IBM PC DOS 1.00? or know of where I may d/l it from the net
>> somewhere??
>
>Lad, we don't do that here. Copyright situation. Besides, PC-DOS 1.0
I don't know for sure, but knowing M$, I strongly suspect that they still
retain the rights to it as a commercial product (and all versions since),
unlike Apple, which makes the 6.0.x and 7.0 versions of the MacOS available
for free from their FTP site.
Perhaps the original poster was thinking that M$ might be so gracious as to
do as Apple did? (Woooheee.... Boy, I crack myself up sometimes... 8^)
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At 11:11 PM 5/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> Haddock claims the T1100 was Toshiba's first laptop; just by looking at the
>
>Oops, I forgot to mention that neither the T1000 nor the T1100 were
>Toshiba's first laptop. I don't have one, but I think their first was the
>T100, a CP/M laptop from 1982
Okay, where can I get one? 8^) Toshiba doesn't have a spec file for it;
I'll have to do some searching around to find out more about it.
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At 08:11 PM 5/18/98 -0700, you wrote:
>> Army surplus or what?
>
>I'm guessing HMR... Open w/o appointment last Saturday?
Actually, it was Friday. 8^) Yep, HMR. I *love* that place. I could
spend $200/week easy, if I had it. 8^)
Btw, was there someone else from the list at HMR last Friday? The guy
(Rick?) I dealt with said someone else had been in that morning who was
into GRiD's.
Anyway, now that they're open on alternate Saturdays, perhaps we should be
planning a bay area get-together?
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