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Former Disk Costs (was: 32 bit Macs (was Atari hard ))

by peacock＠simconv.com

>> I recently came across an old invoice for a hard drive I had bought. This was mail-order from a wholesaler, in 1993. $287 got me a Maxtor 213MB SCSI drive. Which is a little over $1/MB. << How about an original Shugart Technology (now Seagate) ST506 drive, first year they came out? Forget the year now, must have been 1980 or close to it. It ran me $1500 with a case and power supply, no controller, all for a gigantic 5MB and a blinding fast 90msec access time. That would be, oh, about US$300/MB. That much gets you an 18GB disk these days. I used a Konan controller connected to my IMSAI, development for Z80 code and BIOS device drivers for CP/M v3 and MP/M. I still have that drive, though it doesn't read/write so well now, but the head still moves ok. The IMSAI has had many a MFM drive since those days, the Konan (not very good) was replaced by an SDS VersaFloppy III, and it's due for an upgrade to a 3.5" Tandon 20MB in the near future. I plan to mount it on a prototype card inside the chassis and eliminate a cabinet. Maybe even 3.5" floppy if I can find some 720K drives. For all you purists who want to keep machines original, what do you do when the machine in question isn't retired yet, and there are 20 years worth of upgrades installed? I figure that old IMSAI will be running for another 5-10 years yet, cranking out the occasional Z80 program. Jack Peacock

28 years, 2 months

HDOS tech info ?

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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28 years, 2 months

Web pages

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 09:02 PM 6/4/98 -0500, you wrote: >The annoying pop-ups come from a little JavaScript. In netscape, you can >disable JavaScript and the pop-ups go away. I generally find that Java >and JavaScript (which, of course, are two completely unrelated languages) >are used to either annoy me or to crash my browser, so I disable them >both. Heck, I generally use Netscape 2.02, so it can't even *handle* Java. And yes, turning off JS does get rid of lots of annoying things. (And turning off autoload images not only speeds things up, but also avoids the constant disk abuse caused by continually reloading GIF animations -- which are much like hitting the gas and the brakes at the same time... gives your tires a good workout but doesn't really get you anywhere.) (As for home pages... I have my "home" page set to <http://www.sinasohn.com/>, but have it set not to autoload it at start-up -- I know what it says, and I already think I'm great, so I don't need constant reminders. But it is available one click away for them what needs convincing of my amazingness.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

28 years, 2 months

Acer Acros

by jwindle＠comteck.com

Hello I was wondering if you could tell me the jumper settings for the mother board. I am having trouble with the ps2 mouse port causing the system to lock up. Thanks Jim Windle

28 years, 2 months

Apple ][ video

by icyblackhand＠hotmail.com

do any of you have a Lisa, if so, I'll pay $100 or less. Thanks Mike

28 years, 2 months

Nicolet 1080 rescued

by guerney＠uq.net.au

A Nicolet computer (maybe the same model) was one of the first computers I ever used, and most certainly the smallest up until then. It was attached to a Bruker NMR (nuclear magnetic resonance) instrument at the University of Sydney when I used it as a research student from about 1975 or 76. It did real time fast fourier transforms and interfaced directly to the Bruker instrument. I think I remember people using it for other computing (maybe with BASIC loaded) when they could get some time on it. For a while, all it had was a teletype and paper tape punch/reader and that was my first experience in the use of front panel switches to load a bootstrap paper tape loader and then through the sequence of punched tapes until the final program was loaded. Of course you never turned it off if you could help it. Later it acquired a twin magnetic tape unit but I had finished my graduate research then and never experienced that luxury. Phil Guerney Brisbane Australia guerney(a)uq.net.au -----Original Message----- From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)wco.com> Date: Saturday, June 06, 1998 4:43 AM Subject: Nicolet 1080 rescued >Since I'm sure not many of you have ever heard of Nicolet Instrument >Corporation (Madison, Wisconsin), I'll tell you what I know so far.

28 years, 2 months

Uncle Sam wants...

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Well, if you want a job in computers, then you'll have to get used to it.... ;-) Think LCD dipslays. Big, numeric ones. Kinda like trying to add 999999999+1 on a 8-digit calculator. Ciao, Tim "NASDAQ Lover" Hotze -----Original Message----- From: Max Eskin <maxeskin(a)hotmail.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Sunday, June 07, 1998 1:24 AM Subject: Re: Uncle Sam wants... > > > > >What do you mean? I'm not too familiar with stocks, so I don't have >any idea what Dow Jones IS, never mind where and how it's displayed. >>Max Eskin wrote: >>> >>> Better yet, tell them you were born in 2000! They'll never be able >>> to draft you then! >>> By the way, I heard that there was also a computer issue with >>> Dow Jones hitting 10K. Are there any more similar limitations that >>> will soon be reached? >> >>The Dow Jones hitting five digits is a problem in the display >>department, not the calculation department. >>-- >>Ward Griffiths >>They say that politics makes strange bedfellows. >>Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else. >> Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_ >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 2 months

Uncle Sam wants...

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

What do you mean? I'm not too familiar with stocks, so I don't have any idea what Dow Jones IS, never mind where and how it's displayed. >Max Eskin wrote: >> >> Better yet, tell them you were born in 2000! They'll never be able >> to draft you then! >> By the way, I heard that there was also a computer issue with >> Dow Jones hitting 10K. Are there any more similar limitations that >> will soon be reached? > >The Dow Jones hitting five digits is a problem in the display >department, not the calculation department. >-- >Ward Griffiths >They say that politics makes strange bedfellows. >Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else. > Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 2 months

Apple IIgs in Apple II case?

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Yes I have one too and from the last listing on them they were early prototypes used to test market the gs board inside them. At 12:27 PM 5/26/98 -0700, you wrote: >I just acquired an Apple IIgs that is in an Apple IIe style case! > >It's not a conversion or anything, it's original from Apple. It looks >exactly like a IIe except for the model emblem and the back panel. > >Perhaps it's something Apple did for the educational market, to make it look >like the other machines they were used to, and incorporating a built-in >keyboard which would be less fragile than the multi-piece regular IIgs >series. > >Anybody ever heard of these? > >Kai > >

28 years, 2 months

Compaq Portable in OZ?????

by desieh＠southcom.com.au

email: desieh(a)southcom.com.au desieh(a)bigfoot.com museum_curator(a)hotmail.com Apple Lisa Web Page: http://www.southcom.com.au/~desieh/index.htm anyone on this list in OZ have a original Compaq Portable they want to sell/trade or give away??

28 years, 2 months

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