Fellow's looking to get rid of some Q-bus cards. Despite his listed
prices (I'd wager he'll let them go for a heck of a lot less), it looks
like he's just going to trash the stuff if they're not bought.
If interested, contact him directly.
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Subject: Q-bus Cards FS
Date: 7 Jun 1998 19:24:01 -0400
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Hello, all...
Apologies in advance if any of the following is inappropriate in either
content or presentation; if it is, feel free to TELL me, but please use
e-mail
and please be gentle!
After cannibalizing a disused MicroVAX III, I'm left with several "ex-
cess" Q-bus cards (see list below) and thought I'd see if anyone here
would
like to buy any of 'em. If not, out to the curb they go, a week from this
Wednesday or maybe sooner.
As a VERY GENERAL guideline of what these cards "are worth," my list
shows prices I found on a "DEC reseller" Website, which prices I assume to
be relatively "current." However, because these cards are used, and
because
I don't really know their condition (operating/not), A) I don't expect to
receive these prices and will entertain "any reasonable offer," and B) if
you buy an item, send me your money (plus shipping, unless you can pick it
up in person in the Rochester, NY area), then within 30 days of my
shipping
the item you determine that it DOESN'T WORK, simply return it to me for a
full refund of your purchase price (shipping is NON-refundable).
Having said that, here's the list:
Card-Edge Model "DEC reseller
website"
ID Number Description Price
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M3106 DZQ11 4-line, double-buffered, async EIA $219
(serial port) mux, w/modem control
M7546 TQK50 TMSCP controller for TK50 tape unit $258
M7651 DRV11-WA 18/22-bit DMA general-purpose interface $507
N/A QT13 or QT14 (Emulex) tape-drive controller (this N/A
unit was used with CDC 9-track drive)
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(FWIW, I also have the above-mentioned 9-track drive, but it's far too
bulky for me to even TRY to SHIP unless YOU REALLY MAKE IT WORTH MY WHILE.
If I don't get a convincing offer, or an in-person pickup scheduled, by
8AM this coming Wednesday (6/10), this drive ALSO goes out to the curb!)
Again, apologies if this is off base in any way. Hope to hear from
interested parties soon!
Chris Chiesa
cfchiesa(a)servtech.com
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>I think that's the same book I've got a copy of around here. Interesting
>reading, but I've basically never seen any of that stuff anywhere. Though
>I found it really interesting, has anyone ever seen a Mac Plus or simular
>system recased into a PC case? It would be a fun project, but I've got to
>many other projects :^)
>
>The closest I've got to a Mac clone (I'm writting this on a PowerMac
>8500/180) is a Amiga 3000 with emulation software. The Amiga is actually
>about as fast as the real thing.
What edition do you have? My 2nd edition book says a listing of clones
is given in edition 1, as oppose to just saying they exist. I'd love to
get a list of old Mac clones.
Thanks,
Tom
<
<> Not so. Runs fairly well on similar machines. DRI evern did a versio
<> of tex for CP/M. Have the manual and software.
<
<Are you sure the program is the same? I had heard that the name was the
<but the software was actually completely different.
It should be different as Knuth's was written in C and tex is asm or plm
code. No credit given and. It's a simpler version circa 1978 and the
putput formats are oriented toward character printers.
Allison
<I'm halfway through reading 'TeX : The program', and I'm supprised it'll
<run on a CP/M machine. It's possible, I suppose. On this machine the
<binary for virtex (The normal version) is about 180K, and then it needs a
<bit of data space for various tables on top of that.
I presume this machine is a PC where code bloat is the order of the day.
Early teX (not LateX) was fairly compact compared to recent versions.
They were far more limited with what they could do with the printers.
Allison
I've got a pair of printwheels for the Xerox MemoryWriter 60 series
available. I'm also given to understand that these will fit Diablo 630
series machines as well.
I've got Courier 10 and Courier 12. First person to send me a
self-addressed stamped mailer gets them! E-mail me for my address.
Thanks in advance.
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human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
These are certainly available for the PC. Check out www.emulators.com
>>
>> > Does anybody know anything about these "thrid-party Macintoshes?"
I'm
>> > familiar with the Outbound computers, I have never even heard of
any
>> > other early Mac clones. Any info?
>>
>> How about Atari STs and Amigas running Macintosh emulators? :) :) :)
>
>Wasn't there a thing called a 'Magic Sack' or something that was a
cartridge
>for the ST which you put the ROMs from a Mac into. One version had a
Mac
>disk controller (IWM) chip in it as well, I think.
>
>Problem was, it needed genuine Apple Mac ROMs. The only way to get
those,
>at least at first, was to strip them out of a Mac.
>
>-tony
>
>
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I understand, but many people would much rather do word processing on
a more conventional machine, simply in the interest of productivity
(I doubt anyone wants to go through a routine of converting files
back and forth. I strongly doubt TeX would run on a regular IMSAI
with reasonable speed).
>
>
>Well, your can do tons of serious work with one.
>
>IT runs several OSs (CPM being well known)
>Code and application development (asm, basic, Pascal, Cobol,
fortran....)
>word processing
>Graphics work (with the appropriate board)
>Accounting
>spread sheets (multiplan)
>Games, deadline, Zaxxon, Adventure, chess...long list.
>
>In a word most anything you might imagine.
>
>My s100 NS* system is one example that is still doing many of those
>things.
>
>Allison
>
>
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How about locations? (city, state) thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: James L. Rice [SMTP:jrice@texoma.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 1998 9:15 AM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: PDP11/34 Being Retired and Scrapped
A plant at which I work is retiring a PDP11/34 and two Industrial I/O
racks later this month. This machine has at least two sets of spare
boards and even a spare hard drive as well as a complete set of
manuals. It has been under a DEC service contract and has been running
24/7 for the last 20 years. After I transfer control of the furnaces to
AB PLC's later this month, the DEC has been promised to a scrap yard in
the Dallas area. If I can pry it away from the scrapper grasp, would
anyone want it. I'm not into mini's so I don't want it, but I hate to
see it get recycled for the metal.
Also, I know where a HP 3000 can be picked up for probably under a
$100. It has a hard drive, at least a med of ram, a 9 track tape drive
(requires 3ph 208v), 10-12 HP2392 (as I recall) terminals, all of the
cables, boards, expanders, a modem and was running when removed. If
anyone is intrested, let me know and I'll pass your email adress to this
guy.
James
Been on vacation and the road for the last 17 days and just got finished
reading all the e-mail. Seems to have been some nice finds by some in the
group. I will not try and list all the items I purchased just the nicer
items. I did go to a auction at the U of Houston and must have ran into the
same guys everyone else has they cost me over $900 to get a few items that
I wanted (by running the bids up). I got about 50 Mac's and over 100 mac
kb's to trade or sale cheap. Now on with the list:
- Sun 3/50 model 247 not tested yet
- Compaq Portable III not tested yet
- ADDS Envoy luggable with built-in acoustic modem and network connector
- 6 new copies of Symantec Thinks Ligthspeed Pascal for Mac's
- HP Integral PC model 207 with software, built-in printer, 256k memory
module in rear, HP ROM Module HP-UX/RO operating system Rel 5.0, HP-UX
Technical Basic Rel 5.0. The baby fires right up and works great.
- PE Nelson model 1020TA
- HeathKit H11A digital computer LS11
- Tektronix 4211 Instrument
- Orchid Technology ProDesign II card
- Sun shoebox model 511
And the list goes on all together I picked up several hundred on this trip,
will write more later. Keep Computing John