Does any of you have any details on the JC Penney Video Sports
pong-type console system? I just picked one up, and am curious for
more details on the unit, such as production numbers, current rarity
(or lack thereof), and other interesting things about it.... if there
are any.
Are these things as common as a house-fly?
Thanks,
CORD COSLOR
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I'm reading _Build Your Own Macintosh and Save a Bundle_ and it has an
interesting reference to early Mac clones. The book states:
"The same Apple Macintosh Powerbooks that legitimized the whole Macintosh
portable area have spelled the death knell for most other third-party
Macintosh portable builders who cannot compete with Apple's overwhelming
manufacturing economies of scale. While Outbound continues to
flourish-thanks to a wisely forged legal agreement and clever positioning
of their Macintosh portable models versus the Apple Powerbooks-I question
their long-term staying power. Most other third-party Macintosh portable
vendors have either gone out of business entirely or have quietly dropped
their portable offerings."
Does anybody know anything about these "thrid-party Macintoshes?" I'm
familiar with the Outbound computers, I have never even heard of any
other early Mac clones. Any info?
Thanks,
Tom Owad
At 02:18 PM 6/9/98 -0400, Doug wrote:
>
>Greetings,
>
>>
>Does anyone know what this thing is?
>
>
No, but there's a bunch of manuals for a Wang PC in a trift store here.
Let me know if you want them. I'll check the model number on them the next
time I'm there.
Joe
At 10:36 PM 6/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Remember: Good, Fast, Cheap pick any two. Here in the USA the cost to
>repair often exceeds value on unit, of comes very close to it. A new
>boom box 125$, an hour of service time is typically 35-50$ plus parts
>(usually a subassembly). If the set is more than x many years old the
>feature of a new one and the cost to repair... In some places where
>goods are scarce or expensive that level of waste can't exist.
^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
You know, I've heard of this. A friend of mine was visiting a customer
in Serbia (part of the former Yugoslavia), and he was totally amazed that
technicians there were repairing "throw away" modules from the motorola
"MX" portable UHF radios. They used home-made tools, and reverse-engineered
schematics (the exact contents of these modules was supposed to be a
secret).
Clever, these eastern europeans . . . .
>
>I've gotten some good equipment for this reason. I also have some old
>equipment because I could fix it real cheap. My first 11/23 was made
>from failed FS spares returns that were 'shot to the chip level. That
>includes the RL02 I got on a bet. It was mine of I could fix it, it had
>been totally taken appart by several people that couldn't fix it...
>problem was a bad crimp on a spade lug to the motor start cap. It's
>still running and I've never used a alignment pack that one of the
>people that took it apart said it would need despite the heads never
>being desturbed.
>
>Then again I can solder too.
>
>Allison
>
>
>
>
Does anyone know how to access the BIOS of an old Toshiba 2200sx
laptop? It is Pheonix, but I can't tell what version, etc., as it
flashes on screen very fast. I need to set up the COM ports of this
thing and can't seem to figure it out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
CORD COSLOR
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 8:35
Subject: Re: Early Mac Clones
>>
>> bit hard getting a mac into a pc case though, remember that macs have all
>> the connectors on board,
>
>Why do all computer owners forget about tools other than screwdrivers ?
>
>The above problem can be solved either by drilling/cutting the PC case to
>allow plugs to fit into the sockets on the Mac logic board, or by making
>up extension cables between connectors on the case and those on the logic
>board.
>
>>
>> desie
>
>-tony
>
email: desieh(a)southcom.com.au
desieh(a)bigfoot.com
museum_curator(a)hotmail.com
Apple Lisa Web Page:
http://www.southcom.com.au/~desieh/index.htm
I know, Ive done it before, the back panel is not a pretty site
afterwoods.............
I remember a program, actually a sound driver, that was written for
computers without sound cards. I think it was intended for Windows
3.1 or something like that to allow simple .wav files to be played
--- in lue of a sound card -- simply used the internal pc speaker.
If you have any information on something like this, could you respond
to me via private e-mail?
Thanks,
CORD COSLOR
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<rearranging RAM in others (so the SIMMS were no longer paired). Noone
<solved this. Better yet, the next issue, they published a letter
<saying that these were clearly artificial problems, and I quote,
<"IDE cables just don't fail". The guy said that a tech would never
<think to look at it.
Poor, while unlikely the obvious is the problem.
<BTW, do you train service techs?
Sometimes if they needed someone in my specialty on short call. More
often the trainers were part of my product development team and I was
managing technology transfer and strategy for repair. I was tasked
mostly with developing the service process/plan.
Remember: Good, Fast, Cheap pick any two. Here in the USA the cost to
repair often exceeds value on unit, of comes very close to it. A new
boom box 125$, an hour of service time is typically 35-50$ plus parts
(usually a subassembly). If the set is more than x many years old the
feature of a new one and the cost to repair... In some places where
goods are scarce or expensive that level of waste can't exist.
I've gotten some good equipment for this reason. I also have some old
equipment because I could fix it real cheap. My first 11/23 was made
>from failed FS spares returns that were 'shot to the chip level. That
includes the RL02 I got on a bet. It was mine of I could fix it, it had
been totally taken appart by several people that couldn't fix it...
problem was a bad crimp on a spade lug to the motor start cap. It's
still running and I've never used a alignment pack that one of the
people that took it apart said it would need despite the heads never
being desturbed.
Then again I can solder too.
Allison
<Give me a person who likes and works with machines and understands
<block diagrams, transmission lines, and power and servo subsystems
<and he/she'll beat the hell out of the paper wonders any time.
That says it all.
Allison
