At 10:13 PM 6/10/98 -0400, Ward Donald Griffiths III wrote:
>Hell, I'd rather fix rams with my teeth the way the old Basque herders
>used to than a Packard-Bell computer.
You mean there's a difference? :)
Packard Bell: Today's headache, tomorrow's obscure collectible. Hey, you
never know: People might start collecting only the badly designed systems.
It could happen.
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On Jun 11, 4:20, Ward Donald Griffiths III wrote:
> Unix started with a 14-char filename limit (and allowed [still does]
> characters in filenames tricky to get at from the shell).
I still have two disks with filenames which include DEL and NUL characters.
> I always figured if you couldn't describe
> what a file was for in 14 characters, you should be in a different
> profession. The current fashion for doing things like including
> things like extended version numbers in filenames does not change my
> opinion.
Nor mine :-)
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Ok you DEC-heads. What baud rate does the Digital DF02 modem jog along
at?
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Hi. I just got a shwrink wrapped copy of this, and wanted to know if anyone
wanted it before I used it...
I'll either sell it or trade it for PC/Apple ][ stuff.
Ciao,
Tim D. Hotze
At 07:14 AM 6/10/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Does "Mac II-type motherboard" mean its a genuine Apple motherboard, or
>do you just mean its similiar to the Mac II motherboards?
Sorry... By "Mac II-type" I meant that size mb. Both that I have use real
Apple motherboards. One is (iirc) a Mac IIx, the other is a IIfx. Very
nice servers for their time, with great cases.
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On Jun 10, 11:10, Allison J Parent wrote:
> <word. I do not know if ODS-1 (RSX FILES-11) or the RSTS filesystems
> <precede RT-11, but if I had to guess, I would say yes. IIRC, both use
> <9.3.
>
> Did you mean 8.3? RT-11, RSTS and RSX-11 were 8.3 as was early VMS and
> unice.
RT-11 has always been 6.3, RSX-11 is 9.3 IIRC, and UNIX doesn't have any
fixed format - though early versions had a fairly small limit on name
length (12 chars?). All versions of UNIX allow as many dots as you can fit
in the length.
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@Get this for humor. The funny thing is, he'll probably get this price
for it!
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From: Shadow303(a)my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.marketplace
Subject: FS: Apple Lisa Vintage Computer! Very rare!
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 14:39:20 GMT
Apple Lisa computer for sale! Looks a bit used but in excellent condition! Has
tons of extra software! I want 2,000 dollars or best offer. E mail me.
Cliff
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Hi. Just heard about this, so I dunno really what I'm talking about...
Appearantly, this company is (was) selling liscences for DOS 3.3. I'm
guessing that this is from a deal with MS. Has anyone ever seen this? Is
it available with another product, such as early Windows releases?
Ciao,
Tim D. Hotze
OK, to aviod confusion the first system in question is a SMS-1000, with a
PDP-11/73 board, 2MW RAM, RL02 Controller (DL), TK50 Controller (MU), Dilog
DQ606 Floppy Controller (DY). The SMS-1000 has an internal Floppy and HD,
which it thinks are a RD51 (DU) and RX50 (DU). The boot ROMs support DU
(DSA, the HD and Floppy), MU (TK50), and MS (TS).
I'm able to boot off of RL02 by entering in the bootstrap from ODT.
I've got RSX-11M and XXDP RL02 packs, and can boot from either. I've
managed to make a bootable XXDP floppy diskette. I can boot the machine
directly off of the XXDP floppy on power up. I can boot the XXDP floppy
>from the XXDP RL02 pack, and then boot the XXDP RL02 pack from floppy.
However, if I power up and boot from floppy, I can not boot the XXDP RL02
pack. Is this because the Boot ROMs don't support RL02's?
Does anyone have any instructions for a Dilog DQ606 controller? I gather
that it can be configured to act as several different floppy drives. The
drives that came with it are labeled as being a RX-50 and a RX-33, yet
RSX-11M sees both as RX-02's. I'd like to get these changed back to RX-50
and RX-33.
What does the device name 'MS', device type 'TS' stand for? My guess is a
9-Track tape drive.
I've also got a PDP-11/44 that I'm slowly working on restoring. It's in
two racks, one has a pair of RL02's which have been cleaned up. The other
has the CPU, 2 RX-02's, 2 TU-58's, and a battery backup. In looking at the
CPU, it looks as if it has a LED for the battery backup. Does that battery
need to be in the system? I would just as soon remove them and not have
anything to do with them since they are old lead-acid batteries, and I'm
not very fond of such things (spent 3 1/2 years of my time in the Navy
working on UPS's). Is there any reason that I can't just plug the whole
thing into a power source outside of the rack. I'm asking since for all I
know the battery and powersuppy in the bottom of the rack are some kind of
power conditioning circuit.
Also does anyone have any recommendations on how to go about testing out
the power supplies on the 11/44? I'd just as soon not blow anything up. I
have powered up the RL02's, but that is all so far. I'm waiting to test
the power supplies before I get the remaining boards that I need for the
system.
Thanks,
Zane
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Hey, not to mention those guys that unpackage their CoCo III's and put them
into PeeCee cabinets to add SCSI, more disk drives, extra memory, etc. etc.
etc.
Jeff
At 05:45 PM 6/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>bit hard getting a mac into a pc case though, remember that macs have all
>>the connectors on board,
>>
>>desie
>
>
>Can't be any worse than the people that put Atari's or Amiga's in a PC
>case. I've seen a Atari TT030 in a PC Tower, and it's quite popular among
>Amiga people to tower their A1200's. All it takes is some creative cabling.
>
> Zane
>| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator |
>| healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast |
>| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector |
>+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
>| For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
>| see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |
>| For the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. |
>| see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/museum.html |
>
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