At 02:34 PM 6/23/98 PDT, you wrote:
>A Mac II is a 68020 or higher machine, the descendant of regular macs.
>Video was on an expansion card. 5 NuBus slots, I think. Room for two
>hard drives and two floppy drives (If you could ship me the ROM and RAM
Actually, room for 2 floppies and 1 hard drive, either 3.5" or 5.25"
half-height. (I suppose, if you were really creative, you could mount a
3.5" hd where the second floppy went, but you might have power problems.)
Drives were mounted on a metal platform above the HD. Had 8 30-pin SIMM
slots; not sure what (if any) the max RAM was. Standard was probably 4Meg.
>Other models in this series were:
Mac IIx - 68030?
Mac IIfx
Mac IIvx (iirc)
All shared the larger, almost pc-like box. Pop-off top to the case, making
it easy to get inside, but you needed a special bracket to mount the hard
drive on (which then was mounted to the platform.)
>Mac IIci - Narrower case with one space for HDD, one for FDD, three
>slots, video on the board
Probably my favorite Mac case. Similar but different. About 2/3 the width
of the II. Drives are now stacked, with the Hard Drive simply snapping
into the case (once you put it in its custom carrier.) Memory is easy to
get at, still had 3 expansion slots. 68030 at 33mhz, on-board video.
IIcx used the same case (same, but no video, maybe slower CPU?)
>Mac IIsi - Same, but a more modern case
Slimmer case, slightly slower than the IIci (20mhz?). Similar to the LC
models. One non-nubus slot; adapters were available.
>>place today that said "Macintosh II", big long box... about 2.5 feet
If anyone's interested, I'll be bringing some mac II cases (with M/B & P/S,
but won't boot (prolly dead battery)) to VCF 2.0 to sell or trade. They're
machines that I got for Rachel's classroom, that I scrounged for parts.
She's getting tired of having a stack of mac's in her basement all the
time. (And if I get rid of those, plus some huge monitors she can't use,
she can store the computers from school at her place over the summer
instead of at my place.)
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> I found this on another list I'm on. Is this of any interest to anyone
here?
$4,000 O.B.O.
Or you can just wait until someone gives you an first generation
RS/6000...
>
At work we have an old RS/6000 320H (25Mhz, 1st generation) sitting in a
corner, not used anymore as all our customers have replaced AIX with SCO
on a P II. Boss asked me last week if we could do something with it,
now I have an answer....
store it for a few more years then sell it as a collectible classic,
maybe we'll get more for it than we paid new. :)
Jack Peacock
At 10:16 PM 6/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> Woah, what's that all about? Something along the lines of "In a dark
>> future, a lone boy with the power of his trusty TANDY COCO saves the
>> galaxy from domination by the evil Q'OMMADOR Empire"? :)
Probably interactive fiction ala Zork etc. (Or possibly the kind where you
read a page, then at the bottom it says "If you try to negotiate with the
Q'Ommador Mneflug, turn to page 138. If you try to kill the Mneflug with
your Quoxicalt, turn to page 47. If you turn and run while waving your
appendages wildly, turn to page 302.")
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At 09:42 PM 6/24/98 -0400, you wrote:
>'original' style of apple mouse. My question is whether this will work
DE-9 connector? Won't work with the classic. Ya need on with a round,
4-pin connector, about the size of a PS/2 keyboard connector.
>BTW - another question -- when the Mac Classic boots, it shows the smiley
>disk and I hear the internal HD working. The screen goes light grey with
>a pointer on it. This is displayed for a few seconds and then I get the
>'Welcome to Macintosh' screen.
So far so good. Sounds like the machine works.
>This remains this way for as much as 10
>minutes (I didn't wait longer). Is this normal? Have I simply not
Not normal at all. Most likely, you have a drive with a missing or
incomplete operating system on it. Your best bet is to find a local Mac
user group (or friendly mac user) and get them to make a copy of the OS
disks (v. 7.0 or 6.0.8). You can then boot from those disks and reinstall
the OS.
>allowed the system adequate time to boot to a user screen? (I'm used to
>an RT system which boots in about 30-45 seconds, depending on amount of
>memory).
The Mac should do about the same, again depending on the amount of memory
and the number of plug-ins it loads.
>one causes the 'Welcome to Macintosh' screen to go away and be replaced
>by one which lookes the same (banner background) but with a '>' sign...
Debugger. Dunno any more than that, I'm an applications programmer. 8^)
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Got a call from a woman with a Pet 2001 here in the bay area (east bay,
actually) plus some sloppy drives and such. Please give her a call if
you're interested. Her name is Asale Kimaada (Pronounced Uh-saw-luh
Kih-mah-duh) and her phone is 1-925-606-7239. She's looking for an honest
offer. She doesn't know what it's worth, (neither do I) but doesn't want
to be cheated. She apparently gets a lot of older stuff in, so being fair
would be good in the long run.
btw, she was at last year's VCF; she was near the exhibits on the left side
(looking towards the exhibits) iirc.
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At 12:32 PM 6/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't suppose that anyone (Xerox?) taped this presentation did they? I
know I
>would love to see the demo and wouldn't mind paying to get a copy.
The guard I talked to said tapes would be available for $50/copy.
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At 10:07 AM 6/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
>The Star presentation was certainly well attended -- it was packed to
>overflowing! I was out in the lobby watching the presentation on a
When we got there, the guard was (rather ineffectively) trying to turn
people away. We slipped past after I mumbled something about trying to
find some friends. The guard said the demo was originally scheduled for a
room that could handle 100 people.
His estimate was that there was at least 700 people there, but I don't
think he was counting the cafeteria in that estimate.
>Uncle Roger tried to make me hold up a classiccmp sign, I tried
[...]
> and date as Roger now wants to check and see whether his tap
> dancing lessons collide.
Oh, sure, make me sound like a complete weirdo. (Yes, I know it's true,
but you don't have to tell everybody. 8^) Btw, tap class is Fridays at 7,
so Thursdays are good.
>(c) So...fine, here's a time and place for all us Bay Areans to
> argue over: Second Thursday, 09 July 1998, 7:00 PM, El Paso Cafe,
> 1407 W El Camino Real, Mountain View. Y'all can flame me about
Can't guarantee I'll be there, but it sounds good in theory.
btw, Bruce Lane (iirc -- I'm lousy at names and don't pay too much
attention to headers & .sigs anyway) will be in town (SF) soon, if y'all
wanna try and coordinate something. (Also a visit to HMR is in order.)
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Ha. You think that you're funny, don't you?
At my ex-school, I fount 30(!) Apple ][GS's, a ][C, A WHOLE BUNCH of
books, around 250 disks, lots of lab interface software, Grapler interfaces,
etc. Pretty cool.
Tim D. Hotze
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From: kroma <kroma(a)worldnet.att.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, June 25, 1998 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Loss of early UCSD P-System materials...
>
>>>Subject: UCSD Pascal
>>>
>>>Damn! I wish I'd known about your museum - last summer I helped clean
>>>out the lab that had been Ken Bowles and we found a bunch of 8-inch
stuff,
>>>old tapes, etc. which were trashed because no one wanted them. I'll look
>>>around here and see if there's anything left.
>>
>
>
>
>OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED KENNY!!! YOU BASTARDS!!!
>
>
>
>BTW - another question -- when the Mac Classic boots, it shows the
>smiley disk and I hear the internal HD working. The screen goes >light
grey with a pointer on it. This is displayed for a few seconds >and
then I get the 'Welcome to Macintosh' screen. This remains this >way
for as much as 10 minutes (I didn't wait longer). Is this >normal?
Definitely not. Try starting with extensions off (hold down the shift
key up until it shows that screen). Normal boot on a Classic should be
under a minute.
>Also, there are two buttons on the left side of the case... one
>apparently does the mac equivalent of the three-fingered-salute on
>PCs... the other one causes the 'Welcome to Macintosh' screen to go
>away and be replaced by one which lookes the same (banner background)
>but with a '>' sign...
>
>What is this?
>
You're right about the salute, the second one is a debug button. The >
sign is a prompt, at which you can look at memory and stuff. Typing 'G
FIND' will jump to the finder if it is running, which it isn't yet on
your system. The finder is a shell like command.com. It is completely
modular and can be replaced by another program, though not common. BTW,
how much did you pay for it?
> Megan Gentry
> Former RT-11 Developer
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I found this on another list I'm on. Is this of any interest to anyone
here?
(If so, please contact the original poster directly. Thanks)
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:39:03 -0700
From: Nathan Schwartz <nathan(a)apl.acsc.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <web4lib(a)library.berkeley.edu>
Subject: RS6000
IBM RS6000 for sale
http://www.acsc.net/apl/rs6000.htm
The Anderson Public Library has an RS6000 that we are interested in
selling.
This system was purchased from Dynix Library Services in 1991 and has the
following features. RS6000 RISC 520/20 processor, AIX 3.3, 2.4Gigs on four
drives, 128Meg RAM, 2-64 port controllers, 2.3Gig 8mm Tape, 150MB 1/4
tape,
Ethernet High Performance LAN Adapter, IBM Printer 4224, Emerson UPS
AP130sb, Muxes, cables and documentation.
$4,000 O.B.O.
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