At 02:32 PM 7/2/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Wern't the original Altair 8 inch drives hard sectored?
Yes...
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I'm looking for a reason why they went to the trouble of making it. What
are the voltages on it? I don't actually have any of the hardware, just
wondering.
>the DIN connector on the back of the machine? Exactly for that. Is max
>looking for a 12v mono amber monitor for one?
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Max:
I saw a copy at Bookman's on INA in Tucson AZ for 10.00 yesterday. Maybe someone could get you a phone number, I know they'd ship it. I'm back home now, or I'd pick it up for you....
Mike
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From: Max Eskin
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 1998 12:23 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: OS/2 Warp
I know this is less than 10 yrs. old, but somone offered OS/2 warp
here and I forget who it was. I'll take if it's not too expensive.
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On 2 Jul 98 at 17:43, R. Stricklin (kjaeros) wrote:
> I just picked up a ROM v01 //gs at a thrift shop.
>
> The colour composite video it generates is very badly artifacted. On my
> ][plus, there is a 'colour trim' adjustment which I would expect to
> correct this on the mainboard, but I didn't see anything like this on the
> //gs.
Sorry, I can't help with this bit.
> Also, the colours are pale and incorrect when I use my Apple // RGB
> monitor (the one with the electric tilt) on the RGB port. This monitor
> doesn't work on the RGB port of my //c at all, so I'm wondering if it's
> just a matter of not being quite the right monitor for the //gs (which
> has, if I recall, a monitor more closely styled along Mac lines).
Apple IIGS RGB port = analogue signal at NTSC frequency. This port
requires the specific RGB display for the IIGS, early multi sync
displays from Sony and NEC, many Amiga and Atari displays etc but
NOT VGA.
Apple // RGB tilt monitor = digital display, surely. You'll get some
display from the IIGS on it but as you say the colours are wrong.
Apple //c RGB port = raw RGB signal. It requires an adapter to
convert it to something a monitor will understand. Alltech
Electronics sell adapters for analogue and digital displays, I
understand.
Phil
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I went back to the Salvation Army store where I picked up the Wang PC last
week, and was shocked to find that ALL of the computer junk had been
replaced by shelves full of lamp shades!
I am NOT joking, they actually had shelves full of lamp shades where only
one week earlier they had too much cool old electronic junk for me to
carry, or even to look at properly. I was really happy a couple of months
ago when the place 'reawakened' and started filling up with interesting
stuff again. But now I know that the SOURCE of the computer stuff has
probably always been there, it's just that the Salvation Army store has
been keeping it from me!
I asked the employees what had happened to all that 'old computer junk',
and was told that it had all been THROWN OUT LAST WEEK. :( I was assured
that it was already gone, not just sitting in a dumpster outside.
I now feel really badly that I didn't go back on Friday morning to
rescue that IBM-PC that was full of cards, that Tandy 1000TX, those
magnetic strip card readers, the VIC 1541, and that cool-looking grey
and rounded Olivetti screen.
In my defense all I can say is that I assumed I'd have another chance at
them this week, and that I expected the biggest threat to be someone else
buying them before I got back.
But my competition is my friend, not my enemy. Unfortunately, my
competition seems only to be interested in the VIC-20s, Commodore 64s,
Atari 800s, and Apple //s, which all tended to disappear from the shelves
fairly quickly.
Now I'm hoping someone else DID pick up some of that stuff before it was
thrown in the dumpster.
I guess that Wang came to within two days of the end of its electronic
life, and I am grateful that at least I was able to rescue it. But I
would have liked to have had a good look at all of the monitors and
terminals before they were turfed, because the one that was used with the
Wang may have been among them.
I'm feeling really depressed about this.
And one thing that pisses me off is that they've still got a large shelf
full of speakers, turntables, 8-track decks, old stereos etc. Why the
hell would they keep that stuff, but toss the computers? There's a
funky-looking 8-track + stereo receiver thing that has been in the store
for YEARS, yet they won't hold onto old computers for more than a couple
of months before the whole lot gets tossed into the trash?
Well DAMN THEM TO HELL, and damn ME for not being more vigilant.
I went back for the PC yesterday, despite the fact that I hadn't had ANY
sleep the night before, and the fact that I'd have to carry it with me to
work and then to class afterward. I thought I was going a little crazy
for even considering it (I'm built like Stick Man), but now I wish I had
attempted to rescue MORE stuff last week.
Dammit, I wish I had dragged ALL the stuff I wanted to the desk and paid
for it, and had them sit it in a back room until I could come back for it.
Dammit, I wish there had been some sort of warning.
Anyway, the total lack of anything interesting on the junk shelves did get
me to look through the books. And I did find a few interesting things
there (but nothing that'll make me any happier about those trashed
computers).
I guess I'm going to have to find out where those trashed computers GO.
Anyway, the books I picked up were:
Programmer's Guide to GEM (Balma & Filter, SYBEX 1986)
Programming in Assembly Language: MACRO-11 (Edward F. Sowell,
Addison-Wesley 1984)
PC to VAX: A Communications Guide (Sandler & Badgett, Scott, Foresman and
Company, 1990)
Getting Started With Color BASIC (1981 Tandy Corporation)
I think I may have to have a garage sale to sell some of the non-computer
books I have, so that I can do something better with the computer books I
keep buying than stacking them on the floor.
Doug Spence
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> From: Tom Owad <tomowad(a)earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: old AOL disks
>
> .... (Bill von Meister had been one
> >of the founders of The Source which was bought by
> >Readers Digest)
>
> What ever happened to The Source? When did they shut down and why?
I think they were bought out by Compuserve (or possibly America On-Line). And
they were shut down in favor of their new owner's already existing services.
>
>
> Video game crash of '83? Would you please explain?
In the early 80s there was a home video game boom started by the home game
PONG and all it's clones then Atari produced one of the first popular
cartridge programmable games, the 2600. Not soon after that there were
probably a dozen competitors including Matell (Intellivisaion), Magnavox
(Oddesy), Balley (Astrocade), etc. By about 1983 there was a major glut of
game machines and cartridges, too many to support the market...
Then the bottom fell out around 1983 with the avent of cheaper home computers
with just as good (if not better) game playing ability, which started
capturing the attenetion of the masses and the gamers stopped buying video
games in favor of computers, many of the game companies were hit REALLY hard
and some folded. Of course this was the start of the home computer wars. :)
Some were able to 're-tool' for home computer games and did quite well.
I still miss the old Electronic Games Magazine that folded in around 1984 or
so... One of the few magazines that did good reviews on the home and arcade
game machines.
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Well I had been holding some older terminals for a guy that I'd already
shipped some things to in the past to find that he's going to have to
move and the items I had on hold won't be going to him after all. They
all work and look good and they're going for FREE but you get to pay
shipping, advance.
I have the following (again)
Visual 102 with keyboard
DEC VT 220, no keyboard
DEC VT 1xx (I have to check to see if it's a 100 or 131), no keyboard
I need to hear from someone and get a firm answer by Friday July 5th or
they go the way of the dead TV - to the dump.
I also have one last HP 700/44 terminal with keyboard/cable like new and
very functional, amber screen, current loop and serial connections,
emaulates a few terminal types that I would like $15 plus shipping for.
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Well, I am letting three Compaq deskpros rot in the rain outside-
I just have nothing for them to do. I'm sure they still work.
Anyone know what compaq made that godforsaken power interface for?
>Saved a Compaq Portable(w/5.25" FD and unknown 5.25" FH HD) from a
>dumpster... AFTER a 10 foot flight into it! Plugged it in and it still
>works... Needs some repairs, I can hear stuff rattling around inside,
but
>it does work... Booted from the hard drive with Compaq DOS 3.31. Also
got a
>MasterSport 386SL(386SX-20, 4MB RAM, 63MB HD) and a 486
motherboard(gonna
>set it up with Linux or something). Also getting a 1970 VW Bug for my
>birthday next week... I suppose this makes it a good day despite the
belt
>clip on my radio breaking this morning(now I get to make a nice metal
one
>to replace the broken plastic one).
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I know this is less than 10 yrs. old, but somone offered OS/2 warp
here and I forget who it was. I'll take if it's not too expensive.
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