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Off-topic informational anti-spam anecdotal

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

Hans Franke wrote: > b) I had, until I switched to ISDN, still a 1927 Telephone > in every day use. Worked fine, even with the latest (analogue) > exchange :) - Noy I connect it via an a/b adaptor. Well done. But, pardon my ignorance, what is an a/b adaptor? I've often wondered about adding a BCD-DTMF chip and a pulse counter to make dial phones do tones for all the robots you ring up and have to type numbers to communicate with. But where do I put # and *? Suggestions? Philip.

28 years, 1 month

Iomega ALPHA-10

by cfandt＠servtech.com

I need a manual or a decent copy of one and any other available info on the Iomega ALPHA-10 SCSI removable disk drive. Nothing at the Iomega website, just the newer stuff. Thanks, Chris -- -- Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/

28 years, 1 month

Idiots

by sie＠systemfile.demon.co.uk

-----Original Message----- From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: 22 July 1998 19:00 Subject: Re: Idiots >On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Max Eskin wrote: > >> While we're on this subject, are stupid lawsuits as common in UK >> and other countries as the US? >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >It is my understanding that in UK the loser pays all legal costs which >tends to discourage filing frivolous suits. No, this is no the case. I know personaly of a case where the victim lost more in expenses bringing the case to court than the offender was eventually fined for the offence. It's all a bit backward in the UK I'm afraid. Compensation for serious injury is a complete joke. We have murderers released from prison after serving only half of their sentance. So, while I laugh at the "My neighbour pulled a nasty face at my cat" type lawsuits in the US. I do feel that the system in the UK is grossly unfair in the opposite way, with the victims of crime rarely receiving justice. Sie

28 years, 1 month

RT-11 Help

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Hello List-ites.... I have a question for the non-RT11-impaired among us: I am attempting (sporadically) to get an 11/34a back in it's original shape, when it ran a Hollywood audio company's accounting and sales functions. It had two RK05s and several software packages running under MACRO, Unix, and USCD pSystem Pascal. Right now only one of the drives is hooked up, set to drive '0'. It will boot and run the UCSD stuff and it will boot RT-11(V2.0).... except that, in 7 out of the 7 packs with RT-11.... it is as if KMON was missing or damaged; it boots up to the dot prompt and then returns the ?ILL? message no matter which command I give it. I have RT-11(V5.0) on my 11/73 and it is fully functional, so I have had some cursory (N.P.I.) experience with the OS. I am at another one of those self-teaching impasses.. I can't do much more with the system the way it is... sigh. Has anyone any ideas? Magic words? Mystery switches? Or should I just chuck this wretched humiliating heavy loud time-consuming suppossed-to-be-a-fun-toy..... sorry. Time for my meds again. I'm fine now... quite calm actually. help. Cheers..... John PS: Anyone found a junk Kennedy 9300 tape machine whose vacuum column door is in good shape... I *need* one real bad.... J

28 years, 1 month

WTB: Jupiter Ace

by sie＠systemfile.demon.co.uk

Anyone got a Jupiter Ace they'd be prepared to part with ? Sie

28 years, 1 month

Compaq (off topic)

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

>> That's dead, I'll replace it. Should I also change the black bar- >> shaped 7.5 v cell? It's dead too, and I don't know what it's for. > > I'm not sure if the 7.5V bettery is required for the machine to power > up, on the other hand, it wasn't _designed_ to be dead, so it can do no > harm to replace it. It isn't required. Replacing mine did no good (ie powered up but didn't retain all settings, with old or new battery). New ones, being NiCd, are supplied fully discharged anyway. Philip.

28 years, 1 month

Compaq

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

>> This one I must agree with. Thank god I had some metric phillips >> drivers to turn those Torx screws!!! >> >You forgot one category: Most difficult to open. The last LTE I tried >> to >> >open required the skill of a surgeon to dissassemble. Phillips driver to turn a Torx screw? Shame on you! Flat bladed much more effective provided you select the correct width ;-) > Since when does the use of Torx screws make something difficult to > dismantle? They're a lot better than the crosspoint (Phillips, Pozidriv, > etc) screws, which almost seem to be designed to cause the driver to > 'cam out' when you try to shift them. > > Dismantling is easy, anyway. It's getting it back together that's > interesting... Dismantling the LTE-lite 20 is not easy. For those who wish to have a go: 1. Find the four obvious screws at the back of the case. Make sure they are properly done up :-) Don't undo them! If you do you will cause permanent damage. 2. Remove battery. Screwdriver inside battery compartment will pop some of the clips that hold the top cover off. 3. Work around the edges, using additional force at the front corners, until top cover fully popped. Then fold screen right back and lift off cover. 4. Next undo the screw that holds the display cable in place (for cable read flexible pcb) and unplug said cable. 5. Then and only then can you undo the four screws at the back, and detach the screen. Thereafter, fairly obvious. All the screws are Torx 9, except for a few very small phillips in the display... If you start by undoing the obvious screws, you will tear the display cable, and it costs around 30 pounds to replace. Compaq don't sell to the general public. but will tell you the names of dealers who do. (Guess how I found that out!) Philip.

28 years, 1 month

Idiots

by Marty＠itgonline.com

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Idiots Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 7/22/98 2:09 PM -----Original Message----- From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: 22 July 1998 19:00 Subject: Re: Idiots >On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Max Eskin wrote: > >> While we're on this subject, are stupid lawsuits as common in UK >> and other countries as the US? >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >It is my understanding that in UK the loser pays all legal costs which >tends to discourage filing frivolous suits. No, this is no the case. I know personaly of a case where the victim lost more in expenses bringing the case to court than the offender was eventually fined for the offence. It's all a bit backward in the UK I'm afraid. Compensation for serious injury is a complete joke. We have murderers released from prison after serving only half of their sentance. So, while I laugh at the "My neighbour pulled a nasty face at my cat" type lawsuits in the US. I do feel that the system in the UK is grossly unfair in the opposite way, with the victims of crime rarely receiving justice. Sie ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Jul22.140944.1767.52719; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:09:45 -0400 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA17437; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:07:29 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA71130 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:07:25 -0700 Received: from rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch (rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch [139.79.129.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA11798 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:07:23 -0700 Received: from ens.ascom.ch (chieftain.ens.ascom.ch [139.79.60.1]) by rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA29648 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 20:07:16 +0200 (MET DS T) Received: from htva03 (htva03.ens.ascom.ch) by ens.ascom.ch (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI-7.0.1) id AA09613; Wed, 22 Jul 98 20:08:47 +0200 Message-Id: <006f01bdb5a3$fb1fbda0$96a14f8b(a)htva03.ens.ascom.ch> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 20:07:32 +0100 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sie Raybould" <sie(a)systemfile.demon.co.uk> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Idiots Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

28 years, 1 month

Compaq

by allisonp＠world.std.com

> Generally I'd agree, but in the case of the DEC VR201 I was challenged < > It took me some 2 hrs. and I was ready to rip the case off before I fina < > figured out that "that interesting little button on the rear" concealed < > screw that held it all together. I think some fine art students on peyot < > must have designed that case. It is unique I will admit. < > < > ciao larry < > lwalker(a)interlog.com While the VT100 case was easy to open the legal climate changed and easy to open meant users (meaning idiots) should open it and hurt themselves so they could sue. Screws like that oen in the VR200 and also others were meant as a legal dodge as if you went through all the trouble to open that you were delberate and if anything bad happnes it's on your head not DECs. As some oen involved in the design process we always had to banance easy to open with should it be openable at all. I know I was around DEC from 83->93 and worked with the corperate safety folks. You would not believe the stories we would share... Allison

28 years, 1 month

Off-topic informational anti-spam anecdotal

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

Tony ended his long discourse on telephones with: > In practice, you're not going to damage the exchange no matter what you do > to the line at the subscriber end. The incoming lines are protected by an > array of spark gaps (probably gas filled), fuses and 'heat coils'. The old > electromechanical exchanges were certainly protected against lightening, > contact between telephone lines and (600V-ish) power lines, etc. Mains, at > the far end of the line, is trivial in comparison. ISTR that at our sites (electricity supply industry) we have to install special isolators on phone lines if the rise in local earth potential due to an earth fault exceeds 650V. Such sites are known as "hot sites". The implication is, anything less than 650V to ground the exchange can cope with. Besides, I think the limiting factor is safety of engineers working at exchanges... Philip.

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