On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:56:30, Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> wrote:
> Does anyone have a copy of the Tim Patterson (Seattle Computer
Products)
>article series from Byte? I belive that it talked about DOS (...or QDOS or
>86/DOS...). Thanks.
>
>>I may have the original article. What issue was it in?
I don't know. Tim Shoppa mentioned the article series last week, and
since I'm on a DOS 1.1 reverse engineering kick lately, I thought that the
article would be appropriate.
I would guess if Tim Patterson is talking about the predecessor of DOS,
it would be in the late-79 to mid-80 range (hedging by bets a little). I
guess that it could be as late as mid-1981 (based on the introduction of the
5150).
Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com>
- ClubWin/CW6
- MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
- Preserver of "classic" computers
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>Okay, I am now irked enough at that dead "Rescue List", that I've put up my
>own version of it, copied from the old one. I hereby bring the ancient curse
>upon myself.
Great!
>I'm also planning obfuscation of e-mail addresses, to foil spammers. My
>favorite scheme is to insert extra letters, and leave an English description
>of how to correct it (such as abcxde(a)foox.baxr "remove x's"). Let me know
>if you object to this treatment of your address.
That hardly seems worth it. Do that robots really browse web pages for
email addresses (particularly pages like this)? And what if my email
address has an 'x' in it?
Anyway, please add me to the list.
Pennsylvania
Tom Owad
York, PA
tomowad(a)earthlink.net
Location: Southcentral PA., Willing to pick up. How far I'll go depends
on how interesting the computer is.
Area of Interest: Anything other than IBM PC's and compatibles,
especially Apples and DECs
Thanks,
Tom
--
Sysop of Caesarville Online
Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>
On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:45:51 -0700 (PDT), Tom Owad <tomowad(a)earthlink.net>
wrote:
> 3. It will not accept an 800k disk formatted by an SE/30 which
>contains System 6.0.1.
> 4. It *will* accept an 800k installer disk, but it complains that
the
>disk contains a "minimal" script file, and that I need a "full" install
>script. Arrrgh...
>>So you actually get a happy Mac when you insert that disk? Have you
>>tried a genuine System Tools disk?
Yes, this is an *original* 6.0.1 installer disk from the aforementioned
SE/30. It boots, but complains about the script type. This is the *only*
disk that I've gotten to work so far.
Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com>
- ClubWin/CW6
- MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
- Preserver of "classic" computers
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Do you have those weird two-prong things? My building is full of them
They're screws with a rounded head, and nothing on it but two little
pits.
>> > Ever done an IBM 5151 monitor? It's painful, and the details are
not in
>> > any IBM manual (for all there's a schematic given).
>>
>> The thing I don't like about a lot of IBM stuff is the torx screws
with a
>> pin in the middle to stop as ordinary torx bit fitting. (I have been
known
>
>Yes, PC power supplies tend to be full of them. The proper tool - a
>tamperproof Torx bit - is pretty easy to obtain, actually. As are
>tamperproof hex (like allen keys with a hole in the middle), tri-wing,
>Torq, etc. I have the lot...
>
>-tony
>
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At 09:04 AM 7/21/98 PDT, you wrote:
>knowing that the thing must be turned. What's a CLI?
CLI: Command Line Interface
(As in, DOS, CP/M, RSTS/E, (sometimes) Unix, TRSDOS, MPE, etc.)
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
This one actually cost me some bucks, so I'll want to get at least
something for it. However, I promise not to be outrageous. ;-)
I have an operating/service manual, brand new, for the Hewlett-Packard
3456A DVM (yes, the meter's over ten years old -- produced in 1982, to be
exact). I'd like to see it go to someone who has one of the meters but no
manual.
HP gets $44.00 plus tax for the thing. I'm asking $25.00, plus postage.
Anyone?
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Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272)
(Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)jps.net)
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
Sorry about the blanks, folks, Lynx doesn't let me delete them.
This one I must agree with. Thank god I had some metric phillips
drivers to turn those Torx screws!!!
>You forgot one category: Most difficult to open. The last LTE I tried
to
>open required the skill of a surgeon to dissassemble.
>
>Jeff
>
>
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For one thing, I don't think there's anything wrong with cheaters,
I have three or four connected to power strips and a microwave. If
a problem should happen, touching the case could cause instant death,
but a) so what b) what are the odds c)in an old apartment building
like mine, it's very difficult to maintain wiring and even talk about
it to the landlord. They won't even replace the valves on the
radiators! I might decide to actually attach those things to ground
sometime...I'm very lax with safety precautions. There is no way the
boy could have electrocuted himself with any modern keyboard I know
of, since it's mostly impossible to get to the components inside them
w/o taking the thing apart. An XT keyboard, OTOH, is metal which
could kill someone if the keyboard is damaged or plugged into the
wrong place. More likely is that he touched a bad power cable with
hand. If the PC got moved and the keyboard got unplugged, it could
undo any cables spliced together w/scotch tape (another of my bad
habits). In general, it's not too hard to believe. There's nothing
that could be done to prevent this from happening every so often.
>
>I would offer the following possible explanations :
>
>The PC was earthed (as it should be), and the boy was carrying a static
>charge. Zap!, but not fatal, or even a cause of serious injury.
Touching
>any piece of earthed metal would have had the same effect
>
>The PC case was connected to mains earth, which for some reason due to
>dangerous wiring wasn't the same as the local earth. If that's the
case,
>time to check out all the wiring before more accidents happen.
>
>The PC case wasn't earthed, and was floating at about half mains
voltage
>due to the filtering components. This is acutally a nasty problem, and
is
>caused by idiots who use those 2 pin cheater adapters. The mains filter
>capacitors shouldn't be able to pass enough current to be fatal, but
I'd
>not bet on it.
>
>The boy tried to plug the keyboard into something other than the PC's
>keyboard port :-).
>
>> are trying to conn a computer out of their parents.
>> If I hear any more I will pass it along.
>>
>> Charlie Fox
>>
>>
>
>-tony
>
>
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Okay, I am now irked enough at that dead "Rescue List", that I've put up my
own version of it, copied from the old one. I hereby bring the ancient curse
upon myself.
The URL is http://www.cs.unc.edu/~yakowenk/classiccmp/ccrs_list.html . I
have added a "Current as of" date for each person, to help root out obsolete
info. Right now, those are all set to the list creation date (11-Jun-97).
If you find any of your info is wrong, let me know.
I'm also planning obfuscation of e-mail addresses, to foil spammers. My
favorite scheme is to insert extra letters, and leave an English description
of how to correct it (such as abcxde(a)foox.baxr "remove x's"). Let me know
if you object to this treatment of your address.
Bill.
