| -----Original Message-----
| From: Larry Anderson [mailto:foxnhare@goldrush.com]
| Sent: Monday, August 17, 1998 6:54 PM
| To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
| Subject: Re: C64 for $800
|
| just try
| to find docs for a PET MTU graphics board (like I am), I have a collection
of
| a lifetime.
Hmm, I'm pretty sure I have docs for that. What was the MTU again? I have
like ridiculously extensive PET docs including the service manuals and
service update notices, service test tapes & disks, etc.
Heck, come to think of it, I have a PET high res graphics board of some kind
in a box someplace. Is that what this thing is?
Kai
On Aug 18, 7:57, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> Subject: RSX-11M v4.1
> OK, last night I tried copying the damaged RL02's that contain what is
> supposed to be a RSX-11M v4.1 distribution. Unfortunatly two of the
disks
> seem to be damaged. I was able to recover 3/4 of one, and boot it in the
> Supnik emulator, the other wouldn't even mount.
>
> Now, I've got a question about these packs, and thier labels.
>
> RSX-11M V4.1 |
> RSXM35 V1 | I was able to copy 8,638,976 bytes of
> RLUTIL V2 | 10,485,760. It will boot.
> Copied 06/19/84 | Fault light now comes on when try
to load
>
> RSX-11M V4.1
> EXCPRV V1
> HLPDCL V2
> Copied 06/19/84
>
> RSX-11M V4.1
> MCRSRC V1
> Copied 06/19/84
>
> RSX-11M V4.1 |
> ACSQ22 V1 | Fault light comes on when I try to load
it.
> UPDATE V2 |
> ACS MODS V3 |
> Copied 06/19/84 rev 06/14/84 |
>
> Unfortuntaly I suspect that the first pack is the most important, and
based
> on the SYSGEN documentation, I need the first three packs to do a SYSGEN.
> What on earth is the third pack?
MCR is the standard command line interpreter, prior to DCL, and that disk
is the source for building it.
> Also, is this the standard way for a RSX-11M distribution to be packaged?
No, it looks like you have an RL01 distribution (which IIRC came on 6
packs) but copied to RL02s, two RL01s to a pack. It's been a long time,
but I think RL02 distributions were 4 packs, called something like RSXM35
(that's a bootable baseline minimal system, with the SYSGEN stuff on it,
like yours), MAPSRC (sources to build a mapped system) UNMSRC (to build an
unmapped system) and the last pack had all the extra software (EDT, DCL,
and friends). The fourth pack you have is possibly an update and may not
be necessary. But my memory may be playing its usual tricks.
> Once I've got archival copies made of all this I'll be more willing to
play
> with the packs. On a positive note, I can play with the images in the
> emulator while copying them. I think I've still got over a dozen packs
to
> go through. I'll probably finish the RL02's tonite.
Best of luck! I suspect you have enough to rebuild the system, if you can
read the packs, and perhaps there are more amongst the ones you have yet to
check.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
>i started a new job last week; one of my duties is going thru a
>warehouse load (no joke) of older mac systems. everything from se30's to
>older powerPC machines. question is this: since they all are being
>scrapped and i cannot save them
Why can't you save them?
>anyone want me to pull some roms for them? or any other useful components?
let me know WHAT
>they are, and WHERE they are
How about a Power Mac motherboard or two? :-)
More realistically, I'd be interested in any PowerPC processors & ROMs.
Some of this stuff is probably more trouble to remove than its worth,
though. How much did you want for the componets?
Sincerely,
Tom Owad
--
Sysop of Caesarville Online
Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>
I'm passing this along from the Dead Media Collectorz list in case anyone
is interested in vintage calculators.
R.
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Seth
***************************************
>Now this is sounding fun. One question, do you feed the output from the
>SLU to the input of the VT?
You should be able to do that... but the VT103 had some special
paddle board which plugged into the connector on the VT100
basic video board and which provided a connector (2x5) which
connects to something like an MXV11-B, and a second connector
which also attaches to the MXV11-B (or DLV11-J) and routes the
signals through to the external connector (if I remember
correctly - otherwise it provides a separate external
conenction).
I'll have to open up my VT103 at work one of these days to get
the info for you (like part numbers).
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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> Wow. I didn't know that anybody besides Commodore ever used XT IDE. I
have
> a couple of WD-98???-X drives, one in a Commodore Colt that I use for ROM
> burning. IIRC, WD made 20Mb and 40Mb XT IDE before moving on to AT IDE.
> Commodore even designed-in an XT-IDE port on their A2091 and A590 disk
> controllers for the A2000 and A500, respectively. The A590 did ship with
> 20Mb XT drives; the A2091 did not have the 40 pin connector soldered in
place.
> It does work; I have retrofitted one. They are slow.
>
> And, yes, the ST251/251-1 are both MFM. I use them on ancient DEC
hardware.
>
> -ethan
>
>
I believe the Tandy 1000 TL/2 and TL/3 (not sure about the TL/2) also had a
built-on XT-IDE controller. The TL that I have has a HardCard.
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
(in his best Rodney King voice)
Can't we all just get along?
Actually, for me, Providence is quite a haul :)
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Donzelli [mailto:william@ans.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 1:54 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: RE: Tony - SOL docs and MIT flea market
>
>
> > >Dare we attempt to create a Boston area computer users
> group with our
> > >raggedy group?
> >
> > I'd join...!
>
> Hey, Providence is not too far away.
>
> (Blatant RetroComputing Society ot Rhode Island plug).
>
> William Donzelli
> william(a)ans.net
>
Okay, which board do you have?
Jeff
At 12:25 PM 8/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ethan:
>>
>> Try www.natinst.com. Far as I know national still supports prettyy much
all
>> of their hardware.
>
>When I first got the cards last year, I tried them. I couldn't find
>a reference to my board. I wasn't surprised (the board is over 10 years
old),
>so I stopped digging.
>
>Maybe they have added more to their support page recently.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-ethan
>
Ethan:
Try www.natinst.com. Far as I know national still supports prettyy much all
of their hardware.
At 09:15 AM 8/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> > I came up with an IEEE488 8-bit card, with drivers. Anyone want it?
>> >
>> > manney(a)lrbcg.com
>> > "Enough is abundance to the wise." -- Euripides
>
>What is the card? What drivers? I have a couple of 8-bit IEEE-488 cards
>and _no_ drivers. It's a standard, but old, National Instruments card. If
>you tell me the model number of yours, I'll check it against mine when I get
>home. I'd love drivers for it.
>
>-ethan
>
