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by cctalk＠beyondthepale.ie

> > I'm not sure I understand what all this posting business is about. > The application (Thunderbird) puts the text where it wants. > In my case at the top. ie LIFO or latest first. It does the same with > the list of messages > > Decmail did this from its inception as did the IBM, HP. etc mail systems. > I can't understand what the fuss is about. Please explain > The explaination in the signature in some of David Griffith's postings is about the best and most succinct I've seen. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

10 years, 4 months

VAX 4000-200 Battery Location/Removal Question

by bobvines00＠gmail.com

Since I've fallen _way_ behind in reading my email (I'm reading July 2015's messages now), I've just recently read a thread where removing the batteries from VAX 4000-xxx systems was discussed and recommended. Since I didn't get _any_ documentation when I rescued my VAX 4000-200 system, which module(s) contain batteries that I should remove for safety? Or can you recommend the appropriate manual(s) at sites like Bitsavers that I download & study to locate to the batteries to remove before they leak and cause corrosion issues? Hopefully I don't already have a big mess to clean up! Thanks, Bob

10 years, 4 months

Maximizing value selling a working 11/34

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

So I know someone who has a working 11/34 (4 RLO2's and the 11/34 in an H960, running RSTS/E) they want to sell, and they want to know how to maximize the value - i.e. whether to sell it as a complete working system, or to part it out - and if the latter, how to break it up? (No discussion about the morality of parting it out, please; this is owned by a business, and they need the money to pay people's salaries.) So which direction would get the most money? My sense is that parting it to the maximal degree possible (e.g. sell each drive separately, sell the memory separately from the CPU, sell the feet separately from the H960, etc) is the way to get the most money, but I'm interested to hear what others think. Thanks for any insights! Noel

10 years, 4 months

CREEPYPASTA

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Pontus Pihlgren > Once, I was told by a friend that he had dumpstered not one but two > PDP-12s!! > It still gives me the chills. I can top that. Someone told me they were going to start a thread about top-posting on a list supposedly about vintage computers. I'm still shaking. Noel

10 years, 4 months

Best 200 buck I have ever spent!!! Deal of a lifetime!!!

by tulsamike3434＠gmail.com

I was searching Craigslist and found this post with 7 boxes of C64 stuff One C64 was still in the box, hard to find games great books and much much more here is a link to what I got! once I have it all setup Ill upload some more pictures. Here is a link to the photos... http://s1093.photobucket.com/user/mikesatcshop/library/Commodore%2064 My wife is using my table that I am going to use to set it all up so as soon as she is done I will set it all up so you guys can see it all then I am sure I will have a few questions for the group. Are there any other Commodore 64 users out there? I hope I can meet lots of other people that have a love for vintage computers as I do.

10 years, 4 months

HP (Agilent) SCSI BUS Preprocessor

by marc.verdiell＠gmail.com

> Which one? > > I have never found the config and IA software for the 10343B version > which attaches to a 10269C General Purpose Probe Interface. Dang. Yes. That one. > The standalone E2423A version is the same thing as the FuturePlus FS2230. > > https://web.archive.org/web/20001005102542/http://www.futureplus.com/downlo… > > https://web.archive.org/web/20001005102542/http://www.futureplus.com/downlo… > > https://web.archive.org/web/20001005102542/http://www.futureplus.com/downlo… Oh, thanks! If I can get the inverse assembler for this one, then I can probably create a config for the HP 10343 hardware to make it work! You may have solved the biggest part of my problem. Marc

10 years, 4 months

IDE knowledge anyone?

by marc.verdiell＠gmail.com

>> Just going by what you write...BTW, what are you using as a reference? > I've used ftp://ftp.seagate.com/acrobat/reference/111-1c.pdf a lot. > Also other IDE implementations on ATMegas. Do you mind providing links to any good implementations of IDE on ATMega you know of? Marc

10 years, 4 months

[cctalk] Re: TOP POSTING

by kevin_anderson_dbq＠yahoo.com

I used to be an ardent bottom-poster like this list requires, but then I was given one very good reason to switch that I believe is valid and persuasive -- bottom posting (and even inline posting), I understand, is a very royal pain in the arse for people who are visually disabled or challenged and require the use of assistance software. While this particular list may not have members who fall into this category (me included), in other realms that I frequent I there are readers who have these restrictions. And for them I learned to top post. I've adapted to top-posting and pretty much every other list I belong to generally works that way. Top-posting makes sense (and can be efficient) when one is following a conversation from the beginning and only needs to quickly find the relevant new additions in each message. But I agree that it is a royal pain in the arse when one jumps into the middle of an on-going thread, as reading backwards from the bottom is frustrating. Top-posting is possibly part of the reason people have unlearned how to trim posts, as they rarely scroll far enough down into the e-mail to see the stuff that is still trailing along in the e-mail. As a Digest reader for most of the forums and e-mail lists I subscribe, not trimming material is a far worse frustration than top- versus bottom posting. I have no choice but to see all the untrimmed material over and over again as I scroll through the digest to find the start of the each message. Equally bad are e-mail clients that don't effectively find a way to demark previous text being quoted by using > characters. I think when top-posting became the rage, software developers for e-mail clients quickly ignored that important piece of effective e-mails because it became so easy to just slap in a horizontal line or some text like "---Previous Message---" and call it good. Even indents get lost in the translation of message between different e-mail clients. For what my comments and observations might be worth. I am only an occasional contributor on this particular list anyway, and so I will adapt to your requests so that I can remain a member. At least we aren't ALL SHOUTING AT EACH OTHER were we following the conventions of many systems of the eras that this list so often talks about, when upper-case only text was often the norm. Kevin Anderson

10 years, 4 months

VAX 4000-500 PSU Overload?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Jon Elson > You should be able to safely power the machine with only a couple > boards at a time to find which one is bad. For debugging power supplies, a 'load module' (a card with only a bunch of resistors on it) is invaluable. No trying to figure out where/how to connect a large load resistor - just plug the board in. DEC made several: M7556 dual - +5V 1A -15V 375mA M9049 M9060-YA quad - +5V 5A M9713-AA dual - +5V 2.75A -15V .75A The M7556 (at least) can be used on both QBUS and UNIBUS backplanes (since they share the same pins for +5 and -12V (QBUS) and -15V (UNIBUS). Probably all the others can be used on both buses, too, but check the pins they draw >from first. The M7556 can be easily modified (with a few etch cuts) into a +5/+12V load module, but the resultant board can _only_be used in a QBUS. If you can't find any of these (there are none left on eBay, but other suppliers still seem to have them), another alternative is to get a blank prototyping board from Douglas Electronics (http://www.douglas.com/), and add your own resistors. Noel

10 years, 4 months

dBase IV manuals available

by kelly＠catcorner.org

One complete Ashton Tate set, including XT keyboard template. A couple of Borland dBaseIV (version 1 and 2) sets. Two sets still shrink wrapped. Make an offer plus postage or they're off to the recycle bin. Shipping from New Jersey, USA Kelly

10 years, 4 months

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