Got it set. I got impatient and used GSETUP31 to initially set the
scrambled date, time and drive types to get it to boot and found the
setup program from Mem-Tel on the hard drive (duh). I copied it off for
future use so if anyone needs it just ask.
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< > Here's a question: what _obsolete_ computer would you choose for this
< > miracle machine, assuming you have unlimited power?
<
< I'd get out my best documentary camera, place an Altair on the catapult
< and then film you guys trying to catch it. :-)
I'd want to be the one pulling the catapult release. ;)
But, before I did that one it would be a TI99/4a... nice cpu hobbled by a
really bad design.
Allison
The only problem with the TI99/4a would be that it isn't that heavy.
Something like a TRS-80 or something with a CRT would be a little bit more
eventful. Not only do you get the fun, you get the fireworks, too :-)
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> From: Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Shame, shame, shame
> Date: Monday, August 24, 1998 10:37 PM
>
> But, before I did that one it would be a TI99/4a... nice cpu hobbled by a
> really bad design.
>
> Allison
>
Does anyone out there know of some sort of gizmo that could be made that
would convert an old RLL or MFM Hard drive to be used with a parallel
interface? I've seen then for IDE, but that's it. I've got a couple of
old HD's laying around that I'd like to put to use, but there's no room in
any of my computers to put them.
By the way, does anyone have any old Apple or TRS-80 external disk drives
that they'd want to get rid of for a few bucks? I don't need the drive
itself. I need the case and power supply and that's it. If they're
TRS-80, I could use the drive itself, too.
I'm also looking for disk-based (and tape-based) software for the TRS-80
Model III. I'm especially looking for the TRS-DOS operating system for it
(floppy got ran over by an office chair *cringe*).
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At 10:31 PM 8/24/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Yeah, I know a number of musicians using STs in preference to more
>modern PC VESA/PCI sound cards -- there is some program out of
>Germany (dongle protected) that apparently has yet to be equalled on
>Wintel platforms.
Probably Cubase -- which I would be using if a) I had and money, b) I had
any talent, and c) I had any time. Cubase Audio for the Falcon (68030)
offered (iirc) 8 or 16 track digital recording straight out of the box.
Serious digital recording & MIDI for around a grand. (Used Falcon, Cubase,
and a big hard drive.)
Also, there are ST clones available from (iirc) Canada and/or Germany with
fast 68060 processors, tower cases, IDE and SCSI support, true
multi-tasking, etc. The Medusa, if I recall correctly.
And, while we're on the subject, anyone get to the World of Atari in Las
Vegas last weekend?
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At 06:20 AM 8/25/98 +0000, you wrote:
>computer flame-war :^)) The Atari 8-bit and CBM newsgroups are still very
>active. They'll be glad to help you get your 8-bits up and running. New
prgms.
>are still being written for them by avid 8-bitters. I have C64 1541 and
Atari
I know a guy who uses Atari 1200XL's (same series, newer version) with
65816 CPU's, internal hard drives, and a connection to his desktop PC to
use it as a big hard drive/CD-ROM unit. Pretty cool.
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At 06:20 AM 8/25/98 +0000, you wrote:
>> 520ST does indeed run GEM; it's about equivalent to a Mac Plus or so.
>
> Not to start a flame-war or anything but I have a 4 meg Mac+ and there's no
>way it is the equivalent of an ST. The only thing they had in common was the
Well, certainly, a 4mb Mac+ (with what current version of the opsys?) is
going to be faster etc. than a stock 520ST running TOS 1.0. But, compare a
4MB ST with TOS 1.4 (or 1.6?) with "the various add-ons" and I think you'll
find they're pretty equivalent. Vastly different footprints, however,
something that I find rather interesting.
Mind you, a lot more software was developed for the Mac, at least partially
because Tramiel never bothered to advertise the ST (or for that matter,
stocked them in the US.)
> I have friends that use it in live performance and it is still used
>extensively in studios, especially in Europe, tho the Atari Falcon or one of
>it's clones are now preferred because of thier built-in DTD capabilities.
Yep. I got two Falcons just before my mom passed away; Shortly thereafter
I moved back home to take care of my dad and my studio is still mostly
disassembled. *sigh* Someday, however, I'll get it all set up again, and
finish off the album I was working on.
>> The 800XL is an updated version of the venerable 800. Has BASIC built-in
>> and only one cartridge. Nice machine.
>>
> There's a local BBS that uses 8-bit Ataris he even has an Inet feed.
Really? What BBS is that? Our club is running an ST BBS, but we're
looking at switching to either a DOS- or Linux-based system so as to
(someday) get an internet mail connection.
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At 06:44 PM 8/24/98 -0800, you wrote:
>running. I've got a 520ST, which is unfortuanatly missing the powersupply
>for the floppy drive, and a TT030, both of which are TOS based systems.
>TOS and GEM are related. It's actually a VERY cool system as the entire
>OS, which is a GUI, is in ROM. However, it is a single task system, and in
>my not so humble opinion the interface sucks. Still I think they are VERY
>COOL! I know saying it sucks, and saying it's cool doesn't make a lot of
>sense :^)
TOS and GEM are related somewhat like DOS and Windows are related -- GEM
runs on top of TOS, but unlike windows, you don't really notice it.
There are add-ons and upgrades to GEM that do allow true multi-tasking. A
quick web search should turn them up. I've been happy with GEM as-is as
I've found it easier to run multiple ST's than to keep on top of the latest
and greatest opsys's.
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At 08:01 PM 8/24/98 -0400, you wrote:
>a semi-functional Wang PC with a splitting maul is very cathartic when
[...]
>Plus it helps keep me from feeling like I need to take it out on my users.
Ah, but there are so many more users than classic computers... and
besides, which is more desirable to have around? 8^)
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