> At 10:31 PM 8/24/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>Yeah, I know a number of musicians using STs in preference to more
>>modern PC VESA/PCI sound cards -- there is some program out of
>>Germany (dongle protected) that apparently has yet to be equalled on
>>Wintel platforms.
> Probably Cubase -- which I would be using if a) I had and money, b) I had
> any talent, and c) I had any time. Cubase Audio for the Falcon (68030)
> offered (iirc) 8 or 16 track digital recording straight out of the box.
> Serious digital recording & MIDI for around a grand. (Used Falcon, Cubase,
> and a big hard drive.)
> Also, there are ST clones available from (iirc) Canada and/or Germany with
> fast 68060 processors, tower cases, IDE and SCSI support, true
> multi-tasking, etc. The Medusa, if I recall correctly.
In fact there are 3 major NEW designs ST compatible computers in
Europe: Hades, Medusa and Milan (1 French and 2 German), and several
small size efforts based on refitet Falcon Boards.
The Milan for examlpe, the newest ST successor is available since
3 month. A 68040/33 MHz (060/80MHz within the next 3 Month), up to
512 MB RAM, 4 PCI, 3 ISA slots, 2 IDE ports, etc. Of course GEM
and TOS in ROM (or to be exact FLASH) - The Milan Computersysteme
GmbH ownes now all legal rights for the TOS/GEM ROMs - now in
version 4.5 (an enhanced 3.x like on the Falcon). Eventualy they
licenced the new PCI-BIOS to all other ST compatible manufacturers
virtualy for free. A multitasking OS is also includest
And the best of all: A basic configuration (Milan 040, 1 GB HD,
16 MB RAM, 2 MB Trio V64+ Video, Midi tower, PC-Keyboard, Mouse
and some SW) is just DM 1499,- (including tax) thats something
like USD 750,- (without tax). Incredible cheap - A Mac Performa
630 (040/33Mhz) is used still something like USD 400.
There an enormus power alive in the european ST family.
(oops, again off topic, but I still like ATARI :)
> And, while we're on the subject, anyone get to the World of Atari in Las
> Vegas last weekend?
Any URL for a report _with_ info ?
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HRK
>>Give me a break!
>> Plus, I would guess some of the parts they are using are old.
>>I have the feeling cracked seals could once again be the
>>problem."
> Could it be because they don't know how to built a rocket today?
But maybe it's only because they do (and design) today
everything in the ISO 900x way - Documentation is everything,
personal engagment and responsibility is nothing. Just keep
in mind, 900x evolved from several rules inside the military/
supply industry to avoide any responibility for failure
(tecnical/cost).
Gruss
H.
(Sorry, to go off topic so fast, but I belive we need no
mysterious conspiracy to describe the world, we have more
than enough buerocracy and incompetence)
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
However, Linux can do some things on a 386 while NT will barely run.
I would expect that NT may have some bugs that cause, say, divide by
zeros on certain hardware. It's very difficult for Linux to have a
bug last very long. I have never had any problems running Linux but
I stil can't get it to install on some machines because of crappy
distributions. I'll do it manually soon enough...
>
>I wouldn't be so sure. Linux will stress a system far more than
>W3.11/WFWG/W95 will. I've experienced a number of systems that would
quite
>happily run BGP (Bill Gate's Products) that wouldn't reliably run
Linux.
>Typically the problem is memory that is marginal and is quite often
seen as
>compile errors (especially rebuilding kernels).
>
>However, I must admit that I never have problems with stability of
either
>of linux or NT....
>
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>We have some old 486 computers that we don't use anymore. Can you use them?
>Marvin J. Wakoff
>Wakoff, Andriulli & Co.
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In a message dated 98-09-01 03:35:51 EDT, you write:
<< > On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, James Willing wrote:
>
> > Apple PN: 342-0135B (eprom in some sets, masked rom in others)
> > 342-0134A (???)
> > 342-0133A (???)
> > and... 370-6502 (a 6502 processor ?!?)
> >
> > My first inclination without opening up any of my boxes (that I can't get
> > to at the moment anywho) is Apple IIgs upgrades... Can anyone confirm or
> > deny this? Most of the parts are dated 1982... >>
these are the chips needed to turn an original apple //e into an enhanced //e
model.
david
>>> See my web page for a history of the UCSD P-System.
>>Hmm letmesee... only Pascal ? What about the otherlanguages ?
>
> I don't think I have any other languages for my Terak's
> P-System, and I don't know much about who developed those...
> Did UCSD develop any beyond Pascal?
At least Fortran and Basic - While the Basic compiler
never got wide usage, the Fortran was quite popular
among the number crunchers to get some of their
apps running on the A2
Gruss
H.
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HRK
Hmmm... Ok, based on what information was forwarded to me (thanks, and you
know who you are!) the box is not all what it appears to be. It does
appear that the box contains one set of original LISA parts (two eproms and
a state machine) which I'll have to figure out what to do with (lots of
folks wanted some, and now it seems I only have one) and a LOT of sets of
other parts.
Can anyone put meaning to these?
Apple PN: 342-0135B (eprom in some sets, masked rom in others)
342-0134A (???)
342-0133A (???)
and... 370-6502 (a 6502 processor ?!?)
My first inclination without opening up any of my boxes (that I can't get
to at the moment anywho) is Apple IIgs upgrades... Can anyone confirm or
deny this? Most of the parts are dated 1982...
-jim
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At 04:26 PM 31-08-98 -0700, Sam Ismail wrote:
>Use Linux instead. Its far less picky about its hardware (and a whole
>lot more stable too, not to mention just a better OS).
I wouldn't be so sure. Linux will stress a system far more than
W3.11/WFWG/W95 will. I've experienced a number of systems that would quite
happily run BGP (Bill Gate's Products) that wouldn't reliably run Linux.
Typically the problem is memory that is marginal and is quite often seen as
compile errors (especially rebuilding kernels).
However, I must admit that I never have problems with stability of either
of linux or NT....
Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au
Information Technology Services | Phone: +61 3 9479 1550 Fax: +61 3 9479
1999
La Trobe University | "If God had wanted soccer played in the
Melbourne Australia 3083 | air, the sky would be painted green"
My collection of documentation has taken a dramatic upturn in the last few
weeks. It just occurred to me that I could have the very thing somebody's
looking for. Who knows?
So, in an attempt to be unselfish, I am going to catalogue the docs I have
available and make information from them available to anybody needing it.
Just ask.
And, for the record, I'll try to be quicker than I have been getting that
CT Voice Processor manual copied and mailed to Sam. (:
I'll make the listing available at
http://www.slash.net/predicate/
Hope it'll be useful!
ok
r.
I'd be very interested to know if you have copys of an old magazine called "Micro Cornucopia". I did a summer internship there when I was in high school.
Tony
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On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:04:26 Seth J. Morabito wrote:
>[...]
>> When did the downward trend in magazines occur, or was it a steady
>> process?
>
>Old computer magazines are another passion of mine. I a large
>bookshelf full of BYTE magazine, from around 1976 to 1993, and
>leafing through these magazines is like looking through the layers
>of sediment in an archeological search. It's immensely fascinating.
>
>BYTE started out as a single-signature stapled magazine. The September
>1975 issue is 96 pages. These were the days of serious homebrew
>systems, and Byte catered to that crowd exclusively. There were articles
>about writing assemblers, about microcode, about CPU design, about MMU
>architectures, and about CP/M internals. The typical reader was putting
>together a home-made or kit-bought S100 machine, and wanted to stay in
>touch with their fellow hackers. Those were truly glory days, 1975 to
>1980, although I was too young to participate. I was busy playing in
>a stream somewhere over summer vacation :) [I guess I'm trying to make
>up for lost time by being so interested in classic computers now]
>
>BYTE stayed about this size, right up through 1980 or so. If you were
>around to remember it, there was a HUGE burst in Home Computing mania
>right around 1981. Computers were suddenly everyhere, and everyone seemed
>to have access to an Apple II or a Sinclair or (later) a Commodore 64.
>With the introduction of the IBM PC, computers gained "business"
>acceptance, and the wave crested. Anyone remember the 1982 TIME Magazine
>"Man of the Year" going to "The Computer"? That raised a few eyebrows.
>
>It was right around that time that BYTE swelled into a behemoth 400-page
>magazine. It was like hefting a book, and the spine was a good 3/4"
>thick. Every article had something good in it. There were in-depth
>articles about Smalltalk and the coming of Object Oriented Programming.
>Serious reviews of new commercial computer products. Buyer's guides.
>And still, plenty of technical articles, and source code for programs.
>
>It wasn't until 1985 or so that BYTE got back down to smaller proportions,
>and had fewer articles. They focused more PC clones, the brand-new
>Macintosh, business applications; less on hard-core internals. The techie
>articles were still there, just in fewer numbers, and the readership
>of Byte was pretty mixed, technical and business computer users.
>Computer literacy was still not what it is today, so there weren't as
>many clueless newbies. There would be plenty of time for that later.
>
>In my very humble opinion, it was around 1987 or 1988 that computer
>magazines started seriously heading downhill. BYTE remained a very good
>magazine, right up through 1993, but after that, it was fully devoured by
>"Business App-Itis", and became pretty un-interesting.
>
>These days, the only computer magazine that's anything like what
>Byte used to be is "The Computer Journal", published by Dave Baldwin.
>Unfortunately, it's quarterly instead of monthly -- there's just not
>that much demand for S100 information these days :)
>
>-Seth
>--
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> You'll love it." - Frank Zappa sethm(a)loomcom.com
>
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