< It is not obvious what it is. Has a 5 1/4" floppy and a hard drive, an 8
< cpu and about 6 or so Z80's. There are no obvious monitor or keyboard
< connections, just connections marked port 1, port 2.... to port 6 and a
< number marked as being hard drive expansions and one marked as "Altos ne
Of course ther are no monitor or keyboard plugs... Thats a PC thing. ;)
It expected serial terminals like vt100 or ADM3s and the like.
< The copyright marks on the boards are marked 1982.
<
< Anyone know what this is? A 1982 server perhaps?
No, server is a newer concept. It was an integrated multiuser system
where there was one CPU (Z80) per user and likely ran CP/M, MPM (or clone
like turbodos). The 8086 was likely a local server for disks and such to
the local z80s. They all used the bus as a physically short network to
exchange data.
Allison
That wasn't my problem. I really don't care about the date. The problem
is, when I typed the date, NOTHING happened, because the keyboard was
gummed up. I normally just type 11/11/11 at the date prompt, anyway.
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
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> From: Phil Clayton <handyman(a)sprintmail.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: WTB: TRS-80 stuff.
> Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 10:01 PM
>
> Jason, I think the problem is that the original version of TRSDOS you are
using
> will not accept a date after 1989.
> As you say it boots fine to a date prompt..
> You will need to get LDOS to correct this funny flaw in the operating
system.
> Guess They never expected them to be around so long..
> But it sound like you have it working..
>
> Phil...
>
One of my finds this week was an Altos model 586-30E.
It is not obvious what it is. Has a 5 1/4" floppy and a hard drive, an 8086
cpu and about 6 or so Z80's. There are no obvious monitor or keyboard
connections, just connections marked port 1, port 2.... to port 6 and a
number marked as being hard drive expansions and one marked as "Altos net".
The copyright marks on the boards are marked 1982.
Anyone know what this is? A 1982 server perhaps?
Thanks
Hans Olminkhof
ATTN: Rescuers in England/UK! This fellow's looking for a home for a
MicroPDP-11/73, and it sounds like it's well-equipped. Please contact
him directly if interested.
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From:
helbig(a)man.ac.uk (Phillip Helbig)
Newsgroups:
comp.sys.dec
Subject:
free VAX 11/73 with tape drive in Cheshire
Date:
5 Sep 1998 12:40:26 GMT
Organization:
University of Manchester, NRAL
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As mentioned before, I'm planning on doing inventory on some old VAX
stuff I have and having a big give-away in a few weeks. By the way, I'm
still looking for stuff myself, especially tape drives (8mm) and bigger
SCSI disks---see http://multivac.jb.man.ac.uk:8000/helbig/vms/vax.txt .
I especially want VAXstation 4000 or VAXstation 3100 boxes.
When picking up my last lot, I decided to save an 11/73 from
destruction, hoping I could give it a good home. I don't know much
about it except that it has a good tape drive in it and two sizes of
floppies (no, neither is 3?"---5" and 8"). I need to get rid of this
quickly, as it is filling up my car and making it difficult to drive.
It's a rack-mount.
If you want it, then come and get it, but you better hurry 'cause it's
going fast. Previous experience shows that there is a big demand for
these old systems. It's first come, first served. I would prefer
people who will take it in any case, as there's not much point in
looking at it and I want to unload it directly from my car into your
vehicle.
I could arrange to obtain some manuals and perhaps even software
distribution media, but not before you pick up the VAX (since I don't
want to drive anywhere with it in my car); you could come back for them
or I could probably tell you where to pick them up, perhaps on the way
to picking up the VAX.
Email is the best way to contact me, though the other methods below are
OK as well.
I barely managed to get it in the back of a VW Polo estate (the previous
model; it wouldn't fit in a new Polo) with the back seat folded down.
So you need a car at least as big, where the dimensions of the opening
are as critical as the volume. If you're not too far away, I could
drive it out myself (which might save some effort) but only if you
promise me to take it in any case. As far as I know, it is in working
order and there is at least the OS and some compilers installed on it.
I don't know WHICH OS is on it.
--
Phillip Helbig Email .........
p.helbig(a)jb.man.ac.uk
Nuffield Radio Astronomy Laboratories Tel. .... +44 1477 571 321 (ext.
297)
Jodrell Bank Fax ................ +44 1477
571 618
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UK-Cheshire SK11 9DL Web ...
http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~pjh/
My opinions are not necessarily those of NRAL or the University of
Manchester.
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> From: Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bbtel.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Followup to Toshiba 3100e
> Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 10:54 PM
>
>
> Oh I know the type your talking about, square 286 clamped in with
pressure
> contacts on all four sides. The last one I saw like that was in a Delta
Gold I
> had over 10 years ago. It had the white thermal compound on it to the
heat sink
> cover but of course that unit had more than enough air flow being a
desktop
> case, unless you got sloppy and let the ribbon cables block the air. I've
only
> worked on 2 T3100's and that was external work so I can't attest to what
may be
> inside.
>
They were supposed to have the terminal compound between the chip and
processor. Toshiba didn't put the compound on, leading to another
premature failure and more excess heat.
>
> So the hard drives are a special type huh?
>
They were made by JVC and had a 26 pin (IIRC) connector, with no power
connector. My WANG WLTC has the 10MB version of the JVC drive, and my
Tandy 1400HD has an ALPS 20MB with the same connector. I think they were
fairly common in old laptops, but just fairly hard to find now. The drive
usually didn't go bad in the Toshiba. It was the controller. I know two
people who replaced the HD, only to find that it didn't work, either. They
sent the HD's back to the company and scrapped the computers.
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
I got e-mail from Adrienne Carter at Money Magazine (!) asking about
the value "either financially or sentimentally" of the Commodore 4032
Pet. I pointed her at e-bay, but she doesn't seem to be just looking
for a place to sell one. Unfortunately, I don't know much anything
about those machines. So, if any of you out there want to chat about
that machine, kindly write to her at this address after removing the
letter "x"s from it: Adrixenne_Carter(a)tixmexinc.com .
Thanks,
Bill.
normally one of the components is trying to do something with the power,
but it can't. sort of like when you short a wall transformer and it starts
to hum. Another example is how some of the old computer screens or TV's
sometimes put a high-pitched whistle.
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
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> From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)ncal.verio.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Osborne 01 computer smoked..
> Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 9:18 PM
>
> On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
>
> > semiconductors have failed. If the supply is 'tweeting' then the most
> > likely problem is either a short on the secondary side (e.g. a shorted
>
> Question: how can a power supply make noise when it fails in the manner
> described above?
>
> Sam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
>
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> Ever onward.
>
> September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0
> See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
> [Last web site update: 08/25/98]
>
I have three Apple II motherboards, several floppy drives, and cards
laying around. I would like to get one Apple II running. I don't have
any experience with Apple II computers. Is there any old timers on the
mailing list who can give me some help. I also will need the software
for running the computer (the boot disk, ect.).
--Alan
That is probably room for *an* RL02 or RA8x at the top of the cab...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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