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> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: WTB: TRS-80 stuff.
> Date: Sunday, September 06, 1998 9:37 PM
>
>
> Well, you'll not be able to read an Apple ][ disk on anything but an
> Apple (or clone), or maybe a PC with a special disk controller board.
>
> And even if you got the program onto a TRS-80 disk, the TRS-80 and Apple
> have different CPUs (Z80 and 6502), different graphics systems, etc. A
> BASIC program might be able to be translated, but if it uses PEEK/POKE,
> or if it uses graphics, or has machine code routines, or anything like
> that, then it would be quicker to rewrite it.
>
> Anyway, Apple ]['s are not exactly rare, are they?
>
>
They're not rare at all. I just thought it would be neat to have a
computer that would run almost everything. I guess that's yet to be made.
I have a Franklin 2000, but it's sort of screwed up in it's own way. It
has two video outputs, that don't work simultaneously. One's 40 column,
one's 80 column. To use an 80 column program, you have to turn off the
computer, connect the 80 column to the monitor, and reboot. To use the 40
column, you need to turn it off, connect to the 40 column, and then reboot.
It also uses Integer Basic, not ProDos, like most of the Apples.
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
>
I have a couple of newbie questions re: the uVAX II that has come
to live with me..
One is (and I have looked before asking) where might I find more
technical data than the User's Manual seems to provide? Particularly
sysgen info.... I need to a) find some device drivers and b) make
them available to VMS.. specifically the TK50. There are no
floppies installed. (nor in my other one.. boo!)
Two is.. this old beast got quite cranky on me this morning.. it
crashed loudly five or six time before stabilizing... I managed to
capture the info once or twice, but I cannot verify that it was the
same each time... most crashes came during boot after VMS signed
on and somewhere right before/during the DATE/TIME prompt.. though
it happened at other times too...
FATAL CRASH Bugcheck... PGFIPLHI Pagefault IPL too high
Crash CPU 00 Primary CPU 00
and a ton of other stuff... registers etc. which I will not
reproduce unless asked. ;}
It *seemed* to get better as it warmed up.. the machine is out in
my shop and the ambient is about 68F and foggy... also it is not
retaining the DATE/TIME info... is the uVAX as sensitive to it's
battery state as some other machines? Has the RAM developed mange?
Today I will move it in to the house where it can be given TLC...
by the way, I have been asked re: the cabinet it's in.. it is in
a 4' high roll-around rack, whose top hinges up to allow access to
the Cipher 9trk tape drive. I don't have the cabinet model number.
Thanks to All who have offered comments/suggestions so far!
Cheers
John
Thanks for the info, I'm driving this puppy 850 miles though. Is the
clip permanently attached to the positioner?
-----Original Message-----
From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 1998 10:04 AM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Re: RL02 Drive Transportaion Questions
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I'm going to pickup a system in a week or two, and it's got RL02
Drives.
> I haven't seen one of these in years. Any shipping hints, locking
> screws,
There is a locking clip on the head positioner, but in my experience the
positioner is stiff enough not to need locking for short moves.
Do make sure there are no packs in them. To open the top cover, either
remove the little plate on the RHS (if it's an old drive) and frob the
solenoid (and replace the plate afterwards), or undo the access cover on
top and release the door that way. Take out any packs you find in the
drives, but keep them, as one may well be a bootable OS.
> etc?
>
> Thanks.
>
-tony
Noticed this on the local forsale list - go for it guys/gals 8-)
Please contact him directly - all info is in the message.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: epement(a)ripco.com (Eric Pement)
Newsgroups: chi.forsale
Subject: free/cheap Kaypro computers
Date: 7 Sep 1998 05:19:38 GMT
Organization: Ripco, Chicago's Oldest Online Information Service
I have 10 Kaypro CP/M computers for sale or for free. Best offer
takes it (I'm hoping $5 or $10 for any working computer; any nonworking
Kaypro is free), but if you don't have any money and can pick them up
here in Chicago, any or *ALL* of them can be yours for free. Probably 3
or 4 of them have FDD problems with drive alignment, one or two has a
bad or missing power supply, one of them has both drives missing.
3 Kaypro II (nongraphics, 2 SSDD floppy drives)
1 Kaypro 2 (graphics, 2 DSDD floppy drives)
1 Kaypro 2x (graphics, 2 DSDD floppy drives)
4 Kaypro 4 (graphics, 2 DSDD floppy drives)
1 Kaypro 10 (graphics, 1 SSDD floppy dirve, one 10 meg HDD)
If anyone wants to pick them all up and cart them away, that would
be fine! I can provide bootable disks, including legit Kaypro masters,
for these computers, but no printed manuals (sorry!).
Email me at <epement(a)jpusa.chi.il.us> or phone at 773/561-2450, 1-2084#.
If I'm not there, leave a message on voice mail. If you need to know
more about Kaypros, CP/M, or have other questions, please ask.
Kind regards,
Eric Pement
-- end of forwarded message --
Well, I fired up my recently-acquired uVAX II/RC up this
afternoon, and whaddaya know... it boots!
Thanks to the reams of information which I have dutifully stored
away, I was able to get the system passwords reset, and I have VMS
V5.4 signed on. Now I need that DECUS Hobbyist license.
This machine originally booted into some kind of communications
software.. but it went by too fast to read much more than TCP/IP
and (I think) Excelan, or EXlan, or something....
This Machine has 1 RD53, 1 TK50(?) and a Cipher Data flatbed 9trk
tape drive. (no floppy)
The cartridge drive is not happy.. it will load the tape, but the
red load light stays on, and VMS reports "device not found", and
SHOW DEV shows it as unmounted.
I would *really* like to discover how to mount/access the Cipher
drive.. I have VMS 4.3 manuals, but I haven't found the right info
yet on where to look for the device drivers and other procedures.
The Cipher came installed with this machine, so I'm assuming at some
point someone was using it... maybe. ;}
ANYWAY: Thanks to Allison and Megan for various bits of wisdom
that I have vicariously snagged and now put to good use.
Now to wedge this thing into the rest of the gear in the Computing
Centre (AKA Rapidly Shrinking Living Room). Sigh. Why did it have to
be Minicomputers??? Why couldn't it have been Stamps?? Bottlecaps??
Toothpicks from Around the World?????
Cheers
John
>> It might be worth mentioning that Apple //e's don't have a slot 0. The
>> "language card" (really just an additional 16K of bank-switched RAM) is
>> built-in. Also, on the //e slot 3 is tied in to the auxiliary slot, where
>> normally RAM and 80-column boards go. If you've got something in the aux.
>> slot, you can't put anything in slot 3, with some exceptions. For
>> instance, I have an AE TransWarp accelerator board in my //e that has a
>> 3.3Mhz 6502 CPU which overrides the motherboard 6502 upon bootup. This
>> board is great in that it plugs into slot 3, in conjunction with my
>> expanded 80-column card in the aux. slot, and therefore does not waste a
>> slot.
> Can anyone explain the reason why Apple put the Aux slot directly in
> line with slot 3 on the European version of the IIe? For example, I
> have a full length Ramworks III board in the Aux slot and this
> completely obscures slot 3 so an accelerator so Sam's trick with the
> Transwarp will not work.
THe AUX slot _is_ slot #3. just some different signals. For
any 'regular' use you can only use the slot #3 connector or
AUX connector. The Transwarp is just (like some other very
special cards) desigend for uste in #3 while AUX is hosting
the 'regular' card. In fact, any card, able to run in slot
#0 (using no slot resources like RAM and (E)PROM space) will
coexist in #3 with a card in AUX.
The location was choosed to avoid that owners will plug in
two cards using the slot resources into AUX and #3, since
this (may) result in address conflicts. A far better solution
than any message in a manual for the usual I-am-an-expert-I-
-never-read-manuals user.
Gruss
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
On 4 Sep 98 at 18:24, Sam Ismail wrote:
> It might be worth mentioning that Apple //e's don't have a slot 0. The
> "language card" (really just an additional 16K of bank-switched RAM) is
> built-in. Also, on the //e slot 3 is tied in to the auxiliary slot, where
> normally RAM and 80-column boards go. If you've got something in the aux.
> slot, you can't put anything in slot 3, with some exceptions. For
> instance, I have an AE TransWarp accelerator board in my //e that has a
> 3.3Mhz 6502 CPU which overrides the motherboard 6502 upon bootup. This
> board is great in that it plugs into slot 3, in conjunction with my
> expanded 80-column card in the aux. slot, and therefore does not waste a
> slot.
Can anyone explain the reason why Apple put the Aux slot directly in
line with slot 3 on the European version of the IIe? For example, I
have a full length Ramworks III board in the Aux slot and this
completely obscures slot 3 so an accelerator so Sam's trick with the
Transwarp will not work.
Phil
**************************************************************
Phil Beesley -- Computer Officer -- Distributed Systems Suppport
University of Leicester
Tel (0)116 252-2231
E-Mail pb14(a)le.ac.uk
Cool. where would I get a copy of LDOS, and would I still be able to run
my TRS-DOS programs? Is there any program for the IBM PC that will allow
disks from a TRS-80 to be read on the PC? Is there one that will allow the
same to read TRS-80 Model 600 disks on the PC? Or on the Model III?
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
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> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: WTB: TRS-80 stuff.
> Date: Sunday, September 06, 1998 7:19 PM
>
>
> That's probably a double-sided drive. If you modify the cable slightly to
> connect up the side select line (I will have to look up the details), and
> run somthing like LDOS, then you can have 360K on a disk.
>
> -tony
>
I was going thru a bunch of old material and I ran across this IBM
manual that I had squirrelled away from a garbage find in the early 80s
that also included a bunch of Bytes. It's a 6th edition (Mar 79) and says it
applies to Release 4 of OS/VS1, Release 3 of OS/VS2 ,Release 2 of VM/370,
DOS/VSE, and all other releases
A descrptive heading says "This manual describes the OS/VS -DOS/VSE-
VM/370 assembler language. It's a 450 page XEROXed copy.
I know ziltch about non-micros and am wondering if this is of any value
(in the intellectual sense) ?
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
