First:
$ help copy
$ help backup
$ help files
under vms should be helpful as it nominally goes down to examples.
< Distant memory time... As far as copying files to the tape, did you
< initialize it prior to MOUNTing it?
< $ INIT MSA0: TEST !TEST being the volume name assigned to the tape
That is correct.
< $ MOUNT MSA0: TEST !tape "mounts", and is given the logical name
< "TEST".
It's mount/foreign msa0:
< $ COPY DUA0:[MYDIRECTORY]FILENAME.EXT TEST:FILENAME.EXT !file spec is
< an example.......
$backup/log/image DUA0: MSA0:test.bak/sav
<
< /FOREIGN, and use
< "BACKUP".
Yep!
A tape from a PDP-11 would ahve to be mounted foreign as it's a non
files-11 format.
Allison
> On my now beautifully working uVAX II (thanks again Allison!) I
>have a Cipher 9trk and a TK50... I have the MIcro VMS User's Manuals
>VOL I & II. I understand the concept of mounting the devices and
>allocating them (sort of), and I have successfully loaded, mounted,
>allocated, and initialized a roll of tape on the Cipher. I have made
>a Test directory on the HD called [TEST] ;} on which I have created
>a couple of simple text files. I have tried to copy these files to
>the tape (MSA0:), and it does *something*, the tape advances and the
>HD led flickers, but when I try to copy these files back, all I get
>are sequentially numbered blank directory entries.
Some very important questions that need to be answered:
1. Which version of VMS?
2. What commands did you use? The *exact* commands, with all qualifiers.
You know, it is *very* hard for us to tell what you did wrong unless
you tell us exactly what you did! It sounds like you may have
very well mounted the tape /FOREIGN, in which case there is no
file name associated with each file. (See the ANSI labeled tape
spec for more details about what /FOREIGN isn't doing for you :-) )
> I mounted/foreign an RT-ll sig tape, and tried to copy it to the
>HD; same thing. Show/Dev/MSA0: shows the right Volume Label.. but
>the directories are empty when I copy them back...
Again, what commands? If you MOU/FOR the tape, by default there
is no "file name" associated with each file, and on a copy back you
will get files named "." (apparently what you are seeing).
When dealing with RT-11 (not ll!) tapes under VMS, please keep
in mind the very detailed advice in the RT-11 "Volume and File
Formats Manual", pages 1-37 through 1-39.
Finally, don't forget "/LOG" if you want to know what each
COPY command is really doing for you :-).
As a basic test of ANSI labeled tape functionality under VMS, try this:
INIT MSA0: TEST (if it complains, use /OVER=(ID,ACCESS) )
MOUNT MSA0: TEST
COPY LOGIN.COM MSA0:
DIR MSA0:
COPY MSA0:LOGIN.COM []LOGIN2.COM
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This is an open letter to my Northern Brother-in-Scrap, Bruce
Lane, 'cause I know he's done this... and I thought maybe others
will have (or soon have) these questions too...
Okay.. I realize now that all of my 20+ years of computer
experience has been on disk-based systems... and I am having some
fundamental-concept problems in understanding the basics of Tape, as
it is implemented under VMS (and maybe RT-11 too, I'll burn that
bridge when I get to it).
On my now beautifully working uVAX II (thanks again Allison!) I
have a Cipher 9trk and a TK50... I have the MIcro VMS User's Manuals
VOL I & II. I understand the concept of mounting the devices and
allocating them (sort of), and I have successfully loaded, mounted,
allocated, and initialized a roll of tape on the Cipher. I have made
a Test directory on the HD called [TEST] ;} on which I have created
a couple of simple text files. I have tried to copy these files to
the tape (MSA0:), and it does *something*, the tape advances and the
HD led flickers, but when I try to copy these files back, all I get
are sequentially numbered blank directory entries.
I mounted/foreign an RT-ll sig tape, and tried to copy it to the
HD; same thing. Show/Dev/MSA0: shows the right Volume Label.. but
the directories are empty when I copy them back...
I am lacking in the basic understanding of how the tape system
works, so I thought to ask my Firends and Listmembers.
Cheers
John
Hi everybody,
I have just acquired several large pieces of equipment and I have some
questions about them. I haven't moved them yet- some of these
questions concern moving them.
What I have are an IBM System 34 (model 5340), an IBM System 36 (model
5360), two tape drives (model 8809-1C), and two printers (model 3262-B1),
plus some manuals and tapes. Everything is supposed to be in working
order- they upgraded and pulled the plug.
1. How much do these things weigh? The computer person there estimated
2000 lb. for the 34, 1000 lb. for the 36, 700 lb. on the printers and 500
lb. on the tape drives. Does that sound about right?
2. How possible is partial dismantling for transport? I didn't get to
tear into them to look. Loading access is fairly good in the building
they are in, but unloading the 34 could be tricky. It would help if I
could lighten them up.
3. What needs to be done before moving? Head locking, moving or removing
anything, stuff like that.
Other less important stuff that I'm curious about:
4. What kind of interface does it have to the terminals?
5. What kind of power does it need? I'd assume 3 phase 220v.
6. How much computing power is this? Compared to a VAX 11/750, say.
7. How will these things tolerate living in an unheated building over
winter? I live in IL.
Any other hints and tips would be greatly appreciated. I'd really like to
be able to move these machines without damage (to the machines or me).
I went there today mainly as a recon mission, but they convinced me to
take home a Wang word processing system. The server is a model OIS-60X,
and it has 4 terminals hooked up by RS336 (?) over coax (BNC connectors),
plus a laser printer. I think the printer weighs more than the server.
I got a bunch of cartridges for it, and some Canon copier cartridges too,
"because they're almost the same". I think not.
Thanks,
Richard Schauer
rws(a)ais.net
Hello everyone.
I'm looking for an old IBM or Compaq Portable (or any other that the
motherboard can be replaced with a standard one (especially the IBM). I'm
looking for a fairly speedy portable, because of the program that I use
(needs a 486).I have an old 486/66 board that I can use, but I don't feel
like spending $700 for a portable case w/display. I'd be willing to trade
a VGA or an EGA monitor for it, or be willing to pay a fair (ly low) price
(since I won't be using much of the guts, anyway.
as always, ThAnX in advance,
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(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
I'm looking for a slight variation of a card I have in an old PC/XT,
one card with:
- video (monochrome text only is OK, VGA at best)
- floppy disk controller (3.5in, 1.44MB is necessary)
- serial/parallel I/O (optional, one serial port would be nice)
- and (optionally) a hard drive controller (MFM is OK, IDE better)
With such a card I can construct a minimal, full system on an old
386sx I have using only one expansion slot, which is a necessity.
The card I have is an 8-bit ISA card, and that or a 16-bit ISA card
would be OK. The card I have only does up to 5.25in, 720KB floppies,
and that's why I can't steal it from my XT.
Was such a card ever made? (It's not too much of a step beyond what
I have.) Does anyone have one around? Does someone still make such
a card?
Thanks,
Dave
While digging through my Exidy Sorcerer doc, I noticed a little
paragraph in the technical manul which tells how to read the
Sorcerer's serial number. I'm sending this in case other Exidy
owners want to check their systems.
---QUOTE---
"The first five digits of the serial number give the date of
manufacturer. The next several digits are specific to the individual
unit, and then, if you have a Sorcerer 2, there are the letters II.
Next comes the voltage designation. For example, serial number
10299 528 II 220V indicates a Sorcerer 2, manufactured on
10/29/79, unit number 528, of 220 volts."
---END QUOTE---
Mine is 03070 0085 110v so made on 03/07/80 I guess. Funny
thing is mine doesn't have the II to indicate it is a Sorcerer 2 but all
the doc and looking at the mobo inside seems to indicate it is a 2.
Wonder if the original owner swapped it at some point? It does list
a model number of DP1000-2.
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David Williams - Computer Packrat
dlw(a)trailingedge.com
http://www.trailingedge.com
> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> Subject: Re: C64 video
>
> >
> > I tested the three C64s i got and none are getting video on a known working
> > composite monitor. im also not getting a beep when i try ^G (assuming a
> > speaker is inside the computer) do these systems need an rf modulator or
> > require a tv?
Control-G Does not produce any noise on the 64. There are no sound routines
(except to clear the SID registers at start-up) in the 64 ROMs (I think they
were rushed on putting the 64 to market; later they released Super Expander
and Simon's BASIC which offered sound commands.) I usually use a game
cartridge to check the 64's sound, video and joystick ports. Jumpman Junior
seems to be my favored one (mainly because it does not rely on much of the
KERNAL/BASIC ROMs in it's operation.)
And yes, the Genesis A/V cable is compatible with the 64 (I've used the same
cable on both units).
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While at RE-PC in Seattle yesterday, I saw that they're working
on getting a complete color NeXT system ready to sell. As near as I can
tell, this is the 'Pizza Box' configuration with 32 megs RAM. I don't
know what size hard drive it has as it had been taken home by one of
the guys who was going to load the NeXT OS on it.
If interested, give a call to the Seattle store at (206)
623-9151. Ask for Maurice or Jeff and tell them I referred you.
Best of luck!
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Bruce Lane, owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
E-Mail: kyrrin (at) jps [d=o=t] net (munged to screw up spambots)
Sent on 13-Sep-98 at 10:25:09, Pacific -- http://table.jps.net/~kyrrin
"...No matter how much we may wish otherwise, our science can
only describe an object, event, or living creature in our own human
terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."
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For those in or near the Seattle area, RE-PC has turned up some
pretty cool stuff.
First, some intriguing VMEBus systems. From what I can tell,
they were made by Charles River Data Systems and, although they may not
be terribly useful as a system in their current state, the VME backplane
is very much an industry standard and can be adapted to just about any
VME cards you might want to plug into it.
They also have a pile of Cipher 9-track tape drives. These are
the front-loading 880 series, 1600/3200 density, Pertec interface. I've
looked over several of them, and most look like they've had barely any
use at all (I picked one up yesterday to repair another I already have).
And, if you want a rack to put such goodies into, they've got a
blortload of retired five-foot high Sun racks. Although wider on the
outside than the norm, all appear to be standard 19" on the inside
rails. Just about all of 'em are in clean shape, and going for around
$50 per.
I think, last time I looked, they wanted no more than $20/unit
for the tape drives, and I don't think the VME systems would be horribly
expensive either. If interested, give a call to the Tukwila store at
(206) 575-8737. Ask for Eric Meiney, tell him I referred you, and you're
off and running.
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Bruce Lane, owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
E-Mail: kyrrin (at) jps [d=o=t] net (munged to screw up spambots)
Sent on 13-Sep-98 at 08:16:56, Pacific -- http://table.jps.net/~kyrrin
"...No matter how much we may wish otherwise, our science can
only describe an object, event, or living creature in our own human
terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."
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