> From: Marion.Bates(a)Dartmouth.EDU (Marion Bates)
> Subject: Commodore 64/64C?
>
> I was wondering, what is the difference between a regular Commodore 64 and a
> 64C? I've got one of each, and everything seems identical other than that the
> 64C looks like a 128.
Generally they are exatly the same except the 64C went through a couple of
later board revisions that noticibly cut down the chip count and the board
size (and not to mention the production cost too).
One 'bug' that resulted is that the 64C's SID chip was 'fixed' of a clicking
sound when you change volume levels. Unfortunately that 'click' was employed
by some game and sound programmers to play digitized sounds, and without the
'click' those digitized sounds in older 64 games came out either muted or non-existant.
> (Well, one other difference is that the 64C overheats after about an hour or so...)
I hooked in a fresh (used) 64C into my BBS couple weeks back and after about
336 hours of continual use, it doesn't seem too noticibly warm. It may be
because the slimmer 64C case is closer to the motherboard.
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The X-1541 post and response were by:
g.j.p.a.a.baltissen(a)kader.hobby.nl (Ruud Baltissen)
and
"Frank Kontros" <frank(a)kontr.uzhgorod.ua>
If you want more info than what I posted, talk to them, as I am more of a
general programmer than a hardware/OS person.
Larry
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At 11:18 AM 9/13/98 -0700, you wrote:
>With such a card I can construct a minimal, full system on an old
>386sx I have using only one expansion slot, which is a necessity.
I came across a couple of small systems made by SIIG (who makes expansion
cards now) that are the size of a small shoebox (not my shoes; Rachel's)
and are complete systems with I/O, Video, FDC, HDC, etc. Room for a single
3.5" floppy and one 3.5"hd. One 16-bit expansion slot.
Unfortunately, the ones I got are 286 and 386sx machines, but they work
great for my voicemail system (which can run fine on an 8088). I would
love to find such a box with something more current, but SIIG doesn't
mention them on their web site.
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roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
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Jim Weiler wrote:
> I thought this listserve might appreciate these. I know I do. If anyone
> knows of a source for these, other than the one I've attributed below,
> I'd appreciate knowing of it. -Jim
>
> COMPUTER HAIKU
>
> Imagine if, instead of cryptic, geeky text strings, your computer produced
> error messages in haiku...
[Seventeen haiku
all really hilarious
are snipped from this point]
> Best I can tell, this can be traced back to Tanya Olsen
> (tanya.olsen(a)smtpgate.coga.state.co.us). I don't know if she wrote them, or
> just passed them on. I haven't checked it out. All I can say is that I
> appreciate them, and thank the creator, whoever it was, from one poet to
> another. They are very good, IMHO. -Jim Weiler <heavy(a)tstar.net>
There used to be a long list at
http://www.mong.demon.co.uk/haiku.htm
but it seems to have disappeared. I think all yours were on it - I have
an hard copy at home. Anyone know where it's gone?
I think Haiku error messages are a good idea, and now I work off my
frustration by making them up for errors I get, such as:
CC:Mails are stored
all in one big database
which you can't access.
Philip.
i posted an old computers wanted ad in a local newsgroup and today i came home
with a sanyo mbc-1000 cpm computer. came in its original box and plastic wrap
and included system disks and manuals and wordstar, reportstar, and datastar,
calcstar and mailmerge on original disks. i also got a star gemini10 printer.
the proof of purchase shows over $1700. system is very clean and booted up
with no problems. even has a pleasant keyclick through the speaker too. i also
got a lead on some dec stuff, but no reply back from the induhvidual yet.
david
On Sep 15, 16:15, CLASSICCMP(a)timaxp.trailing-edge.com wrote:
> Subject: RE: Tape Storage for Dummies
[Attribution lost] wrote:
> > but quite a few "common" ISO/ANSI standards seem to
> >have ECMA equivalents (ISO9660 is a definite example).
>
> It looks to me like ECMA-13, "File Structure and Labelling of Magnetic
> Tapes for Information Interchange", may be the equivalent.
>
> >Copies of these standards cost money to obtain from ISO or ANSI, but the
> >identical ECMA documents are available free of charge from the ECMA web
site at
> >http://www.ecma.ch/.
>
> ECMA-13 isn't available electronically, but it does indeed seem to be
> the case that they will provide hardcopy free of charge.
Many of the ISO standards are just the nationally-approved copies of the
ECMA standards. As has been pointed out, they're not all available online,
but they will supply hardcopy free -- it just takes several weeks to get
them :-) Or you can order the ECMA CD-ROM, which has most of the
standards, including many that are not online.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
>Speaking of things from the East, does anyone have any microcomputers from
>the former Soviet Union? Reportedly they made some sort of 8080 clone
>(though it was in a 48-pin package); I've also heard of an Apple ][ clone.
I had a Korean Apple II clone. It was in a white case similiar to the
Franklin Ace. The keyboard had an ordinairy US layout, for the most
part, but the keys were also labeled in Korean. A key combo was used to
switch between the two alphapbets.
Tom Owad
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Sysop of Caesarville Online
Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>
Please contact Birger directly if you are interested in the PCjr.
Cliff Gregory
cgregory(a)lrbcg.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Gregory <cgregory(a)lrbcg.com>
To: Birger A. Bentsen <ansgar(a)ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: PCjr
>Hi Birger,
>
>Thanks for the inquiry. I already have a fair quantity of PCjr hardware,
so
>I really wouldn't be interested in any more at this time; however with your
>permission I can post the availability of the computer with various
>newsgroups and mailing lists that I subscribe to. Surely there will be
>someone there who would give it a nice home. Please don't discard this
>classic. Let me know if it is OK to post your message.
>
>Regards,
>
>Cliff Gregory
>cgregory(a)lrbcg.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Birger A. Bentsen <ansgar(a)ix.netcom.com>
>To: cgregory(a)lrbcg.com <cgregory(a)lrbcg.com>
>Date: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 8:07 AM
>Subject: PCjr
>
>
>>Cliff Gregory:
>>I contacted the PCjr Club in Eugene, OR, asking if the club knew of
>>anyone who might be interested in a PCjr. I received an e-mail message
>>listing your name as someone who might be able to "find a home" for my
>>old PCjr.
>>I have one PCjr Enhanced Version in working order. I don't want to throw
>>it away, rather, I would like to find someone who might want to keep it.
>>
>>Let me know if you are interested. I live in Riverside, a suburb of
>>Dayton, OH.
>>
>>
>
>>Should've answered this in the previous message: you can order a copy
>>from http://www.ansi.org/, the designation is ANSI X3.27, and it costs
>>US$32.00.
>This isn't really on-topic
I'd disagree - it certainly *is* on topic. The standards used to produce
magnetic and other computer media are of extreme interest to me, both
professionally and otherwise :-).
> but quite a few "common" ISO/ANSI standards seem to
>have ECMA equivalents (ISO9660 is a definite example).
It looks to me like ECMA-13, "File Structure and Labelling of Magnetic
Tapes for Information Interchange", may be the equivalent.
>Copies of these standards cost money to obtain from ISO or ANSI, but the
>identical ECMA documents are available free of charge from the ECMA web site at
>http://www.ecma.ch/.
ECMA-13 isn't available electronically, but it does indeed seem to be
the case that they will provide hardcopy free of charge.
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