Hi Manney,
I frequently buy books that are discounted or second hand.
These always have annoying old labels on them that are
a pain to remove. And my goal is to save the books cover
at the same time (typically these are the glossy style covers
that are popular for computer books these days).
What I do is remove the majority of the "gunk" either with
my fingernail or carefully with a pocket knife and then
I use something with a sticky backing to remove the
rest. The material with a sticky backing might be the
label I just removed or scotch tape or a new label I've
peeled off of some junk mail. You take that stickey
material and repeatedly (like 50-60 times), stick it
on the gunk and then peel it off again.
This is incredibly tedious, but it works like a charm.
You end up with a perfectly clean surface with no damage
done during the cleaning. This may not work for you
epson since you may not be able to reach all the places
where there is gunk. But give it a try.
Jon
>An Epson gas eaten several mailing labels over the years (I think at least
>_some_ of the labels must be 10 years old!).
>
>What's good stuff to remove the gunk without melting the plastic?
>
>Thanks,
>manney
>
>
< >Reason:
< >
< >Components, IC's and especially those SMD's and quads are very hard
< >to clean to assure reliablity.
< >
< >Cigerette smoke film are sticky and conductive to some degree!
< >
While isopropanol is good wash a trip through the dish washer works every
time for me. Air dry or a cool oven to get out any trapped water.
Did that on a trs80 that was megga nasty once and it came out better than
factory. Keyboard and all.
Water and detergent is safe for most everything.
allison
At 10:06 PM 9/21/98 -0700, you wrote:
>is better than that stuff you get from the hardware store called "Goo-off"
>or what not. Also, enough rubbing alcohol will take just about anything
>off.
Be carefull using isopropyl or rubbing alcohol, I've found it discolors a
lot of paints and plastics. I've found that denatured alcohol is safer.
Joe
Zane asked:
>However, I just realized, I am trying to make this overly difficult. I'm
>wanting to use these drives on PDP-11's which means they need to be
>formated on one. So the question I should really be asking is how to get
>them formated on a RQDX3 that's in a PDP-11. The reason for trying to
>format them on the VS2000 was just to make sure they worked (and for some
>reason I was thinking it was a good idea, go figure).
The VS2000 low-level format will be compatible with the RQDX3. (The
VS2000 format isn't compatible with the RQDX1/2, though.)
Megan suggested:
>Then what you want is the XXDP+ kit, and the ZRQC formatter.
The ZRQC?? formatter will do the trick, too, but the VS2000 formatter
is far more convenient and robust. I keep a VS2000 around for no
other purpose than formatting MFM disks when I have to. Suggesting
that someone use ZRQC?? when they have a VS2000 available is like
suggesting that they learn how to fly an airplane rather than simply
using an airline ticket :-).
Zane asked about ZRQC??:
>So what does it want for input? Don't know if this is a stupid question,
>but am asking since I've never actually used XXDP+ and I didn't get any
>documentation at all with the Packs, despite the fact that the rest had
>related Docs.
I'd go the VS2000 route myself, but if you insist on XXDP+ I can
fax you a couple pages out of the MicroPDP technical manuals that
will get you started. If you thought the VS2000 prompts were
cryptic, you've never seen the ZRQC?? prompts :-).
Also, since nobody else has mentioned it, *none* of this stuff is any
great secret. A lot of this is very well explained in Terry Kennedy's
collection of DECUSERVE conferences, THIRD-PARTY-DISKS.TXT, available
by anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu.
--
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I got a bunch of Q-Bus and Unibus boards today, most of which are DEC, and
most of which I was able to identify. One really caught my eye that I
can't identify however.
It's a Quad-Height board with a 50-pin connector on it There is one chip
with a Model number on it "UTS25". The board looks to be manufactured by
either MTI or MT, not sure which. The one EPROM says "MTI-U/B A3.4". It
has a Z80B CPU from SGS, and a Zilog Z0853606PSC chip. However the chip
that really caught my eye was a WD33C93-PL. Could this be a fabled SCSI
controller? The WD chip is the same as an Amiga 3000's SCSI controller.
Zane
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Allison
In a message dated 98-09-22 04:56:58 EDT, you write:
<< I'm appalled at what some collectors collect. >>
I suspect that the Shoe collectors would be appalled at what you collect. It
is this diversity of people that make the world interesting. I am attracted to
the idea of collecting mainframes, my signifigant other is appalled at that
attraction. I had a Litton 1251 in my living room when we met 19 years ago. I
mention this so we would be on topic for the list. 400K of drum memory, a
very interesting machine.
Paxton
There is a Shoe phone out there in the marketplace, I have seen one. The shoe
phone is over 10 years old so It is not too far off topic.
The population of collectors is growing by leaps and bounds. The internet
revolution is making it much easier to get together and form community. I too
am amazed at what collectors collect.
Paxton
