CLASSICCMP folks...
This is a list of DEC equipment that's either available now or soon will be. If any of you are interested, please contact the originator directly. His name is Craig Bence, and he can be reached as:
craigb(a)frzr.com
Thanks. Attachment follows.
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DATE: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:05:44
From: "Craig Bence" <craigb(a)frzr.com>
To: <kyrrin(a)jps.net>
Here is a text file for you.
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Make Model Serial Num Description Location Availability
DEC DV-31ATBAA 108755 "KA41-1(4MB,FPU) RZ23-EG" Omaha Now
DEC LA120-AA NA3089 LA120-BA (W/out Numeric keypad) Omaha Now
DEC TK50Z-FA 000021 "TK50 Contrl, Exp Box, 120V" Omaha Now
DEC RZ23-E 000018 "104MB Winch.Disk 3.5"" Preconfig" Omaha Now
DEC RZ23-E 000019 "104MB Winch.Disk 3.5"" Preconfig" Omaha Now
DXTRA MV 3100 729654 MicroVax 3100 Software Support Omaha Now
DEC RZ24-EF 000020 "209MB 3.5"" Disk Drv/Add on" Omaha Now
Data Products B300 N47065 300 LPM Printer Omaha Now
DEC DV-31DTAAA 0D3759 MV3100/10E VMS T/S Base USA Fremont 10/01/98
DEC LA120-AA F08543 LA120-BA (W/Out Numeric keypad) Fremont 10/01/98
DEC LA120-AA N91945 LA120-BA (W/Out Numeric keypad) Fremont 10/01/98
DEC VT320-C2 0Z2693 Mono Amber Text Terminal Fremont 10/01/98
DEC VT320-C2 353830 Mono AmberText Terminal Fremont 10/01/98
DEC VT320-C2 606499 Mono AmberText Terminal Fremont 10/01/98
DEC DSH32-BA 000025 Microvax 2000 Communications Fremont 10/01/98
DXTRA MV 3100 0D3759 Microvax 3100 Software Support Fremont 10/01/98
DXTRA MV 2000 000025 Microvax 2000 Software Support Fremont 10/01/98
DEC VT420-C2 018607 Mono Amber Term No KB/PWC Fremont 10/01/98
DEC VT420-C2 018608 Mono Amber Term No KB/PWC Fremont 10/01/98
DEC VT420-C2 4L9591 Mono Amber Term No KB/PWC Fremont 10/01/98
DEC VT420-C2 5S7624 Mono Amber Term No KB/PWC Fremont 10/01/98
DEC VT420-C2 685335 Mono Amber Term No KB/PWC Fremont 10/01/98
DEC RZ24-EF 000026 "209MB 3.5"" Disk Drive/ADD on" Fremont 10/01/98
DEC RZ24-EF 000027 "209MB 3.5"" Disk Drive/ADD on" Fremont 10/01/98
DEC SZ12X-HA 000023 TZ30 95MB Tape Drive-Dual CAB Fremont 10/01/98
Data Products B300 N21368 300 LPM Printer Fremont 10/01/98
DEC DSRVG-AA 05425A DECServer 90L Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC DV-31CT2AA 005425 Microvax 3100 (KA41-A) Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC LA424-CA 1P4C37 136 Column Printer Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC LA100-AA NN0195 "ENG Lang, Dot Mtrx Term, KSR, 240" Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC LA120-DA NN2925 LA120 ksr w Numeric Keypad Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC LA120-RB NN5002 Printer Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC VT510-AA 05425B Terminal White Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC VT510-AA 05425C Terminal White Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC TK50Z-BA 003QAY TK50-AA w/ Nema Cabinet Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC VT320-C2 146689 Mono Amber Text Terminal Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC VT320-C2 619887 Mono Amber Text Terminal Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC VT320-C2 744751 Mono Amber Text Terminal Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC VT320-C2 9CF214 Mono Amber Text Terminal Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC LG02-CA M94343 600 LPM Text/Graphic Printer Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC RZ23-EF 101QL4 104MB DRV/Upgrade VS/MV3100 Phoenix 11/01/98
DXTRA MV 3100 005425 Microvax 3100 Software Support Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC VT420-C2 05425D Mono Amber Terminal no KB/PWC Phoenix 11/01/98
DEC DV-31GTAB9 OPH341 MV3100-40 2 User Open-VMS SYST East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC 450ZM-B9 3KP654 Microvax 3100 Model 40 SBB East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC LA424-A2 346208 136 Column Impact Printer East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC LA424-CA 346231 136 Column Printer East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC TZ30-AA H341TZ 95MB Half Height Tape East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC VT420-CA 8V1338 Mono Amber Terminal USA East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC VT420-CA 8V1339 Mono Amber Terminal USA East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC VT420-CA 8V1340 Mono Amber Terminal USA East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC VT420-CA 8V1341 Mono Amber Terminal USA East Dubuque 02/01/99
N VT420-CA 8V1342 Mono Amber Terminal USA East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC RZ25-E 00341A "426MB 3.5"" SCSI Disk Drive" East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC RZ25-E 00341B "426MB 3.5"" SCSI Disk Drive" East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC SZ12X-HA 9000S9 TZ30 95MB Tape Drive-Dual CAB East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC SZ12X-HA 903786 TZ30 95MB Tape Drive-Dual CAB East Dubuque 02/01/99
FUJIT M3041C 030135 Fujitsu M3041C East Dubuque 02/01/99
DEC DV-31DTAAA 8D7452 MV3100/10E VMS Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC LA120-RA NE4903 Printer Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC LA120-BA N09850 LA120 120V/60HZ EIA Num Pad Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 OCF915 Mono Amber Text Terminal Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 OCH075 Mono Amber Text Terminal Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 1R9867 Mono Amber Text Terminal Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 2R3671 Mono Amber Text Terminal Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 3BM687 Mono Amber Text Terminal Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 742143 Mono Amber Text Terminal Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 864430 Mono Amber Text Terminal Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 943806 Mono Amber Text Terminal Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC RZ24-EG 000001 "209MB 3.5"" Disk Drive/Fact Ins" Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC RZ24-EG 000002 "209MB 3.5"" Disk Drive/Fact Ins" Amarillo 03/01/99
DXTRA MV 3100 8D7452 Microvax 3100 Software Support Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC SZ12X-HA 301GED TZ30 95MB Tape Drive-Dual CAB Amarillo 03/01/99
Data Products 8300 N21700 300 LPM Printer Amarillo 03/01/99
DEC DV-31DTAAA 0F6459 MV3100/10E VMS 1/S Base USA Garden City 04/01/99
DEC LA120-BA NF9304 Printer Garden City 04/01/99
DEC LA120-BB NN2813 Printer Garden City 04/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 0K9182 Mono Amber Text Terminal Garden City 04/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 0L8531 Mono Amber Text Terminal Garden City 04/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 1L1117 Mono Amber Text Terminal Garden City 04/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 457736 Mono Amber Text Terminal Garden City 04/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 537029 Mono Amber Text Terminal Garden City 04/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 590686 Mono Amber Text Terminal Garden City 04/01/99
DEC TZ30-AA 000010 95MB Half Height Tape Garden City 04/01/99
DEC DSH32-BA 4DE366 Microvax 2000 Communications Garden City 04/01/99
DXTRA MV 3100 0F6459 Microvax 3100 Software Support Garden City 04/01/99
DXTRA MV 2000 4DE366 Microvax 2000 Software Support Garden City 04/01/99
DEC VT420-AA 612268 Mono White Terminal USA Garden City 04/01/99
DEC SZ03B-BA 000008 209MB Disk Drive Garden City 04/01/99
DEC RZ24-EF 000009 "209MB 3.5"" Disk Drive/ADD on" Garden City 04/01/99
Data Products B300 N45046 300 LPM Printer Garden City 04/01/99
DEC DV-31DTAAA 0D3755 MV3100/10E VMS 1/S Base USA Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC LA120-DA NN6889 "LA120 KSR w/Numeric kypad, Univ" Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC LA120-RA N60640 Printer Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC VT510-AA 511891 Terminal White Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 101183 Mono Amber Text Terminal Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC VT320-C2 204241 Mono Amber Text Terminal Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC DSH32-BA 000003 Microvax 2000 Communications Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DXTRA MV 3100 0D3755 Microvax 3100 Software Support Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DXTRA MV 2000 000003 Microvax 2000 Software Support Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC VT420-C2 000001 Mono Amber Terminal no KB/pwc Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC VT420-C2 203778 Mono Amber Terminal no KB/pwc Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC VT420-C2 714107 Mono Amber Terminal no KB/pwc Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC VT420-C2 714168 Mono Amber Terminal no KB/pwc Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC RZ26L-EK NF9304 1.05GB Disk Drive Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC RZ24-EF 000002 "209MB 3.5"" Disk Drive/Add on" Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC RZ24-EF 000006 "209MB 3.5"" Disk Drive/Add on" Sioux Falls 05/01/99
DEC SZ12X-HA 0043MF TZ30 95MB Tape Drive-Dual CAB Sioux Falls 05/01/99
Data Products B300 N45044 300 LPM Printer Sioux Falls 05/01/99
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< We just to joke that Z80EMU on a Pentium was faster than any Z80 process
< you could actually buy, I wonder if it wouldn't be feasible these days t
< create a 38 pin I/O port and build an "ICE" in software...
< --Chuck
thats a tall claim as the z80 is available up to 20mhz and z180s to 33mhz.
Then you can also use he Z380 is z80 native mode (it uses fewer clocks
per instruction than any other z80) at 20mhz (faster are supposed to
exist.).
I am in the process of bringing up a Z280 at 12.5mhz (with 16bit zbus)
and I expect that with it's instruction cache and fast ram there will
be a new level of CPM performance comming.
since I have a z80 system that runs at 8mhz (no waits!) and MYZ80 on a
486dx2/66 and the 486 is faster on emulated disk IO (inherent caching) but
about the about the same as the 8mhz system otherwise. The disk
differences are due to the type of interface SCSI-1 vs SCSI-II and size of
buffers.
Emulators have their place. One is allowing cross platform code
development and testing and the other is allowing access to archetectures
that are scarce or unusual.
Allison
< Apart from the "gee, that really was slow" potential for demonstration,
< recreating the past, is there *any* use for old modems?
I still use a 2400 Zoom pocket modem with my PX8. The PX8 isn't fast
enough to keep up with anything over 9600 and 2400 is generally the
slowest most services will go now (some will not go under 9600).
Allison
DONT use purple stuff! its way too strong. i used it once on a pc case, and
where it dripped and/or sat on the case, the paint was a lighter shade. its
very strong, so if you take appropriate measures, it will clean most anything.
the best thing i've found is armor all all-purpose cleaner. safe, and cleans
good and wont draw the colour out of anything. it you use lots of it with hot
water, it even removes the grease pen price marks from thrift stores.
david
In a message dated 98-09-22 18:11:28 EDT, you write:
> If I recall, the FAQ recommends something called "Purple Stuff". I don't
> know
> what it is or how well it works or how hard you have to scrub, if at all --
> I've never used it.
>THANK YOU Tim
You're welcome!
> This is the kind of info I've been searching EVERYWHERE for!
And the kind that languishes about in DEC-internal docs :-). Keep in
mind that I strongly suspect that at least some of the RD51 numbers
in that table are wrong.
>The info on the Quantum page was virtually worthless, and I'd not been able
>to find anything anywhere else.
Unfortunately on the net these days, you're far more likely to find
folks trying to act self-important rather than actually dealing with
useful technical information. I certainly thought I'd see useful
information on 'classiccmp', but it doesn't seem to be any better than
the rest of the world.
>If you haven't already, could you please
>stick this on the PDP-11 FTP site, so the next person will have an easier
>time finding it (if it was already there I'm going to feel really stupid).
Indeed, it is now there:
http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/hardwar…
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>1800, used for process control (leading to the S/7).
>
I worked a lot with the System 7 back in the early 70's and wrote the code
on it (TPMM)
that controlled the first On-Line ATM in the US. It was at a small bank in
central NJ. The
ATM (2984 I think) was remote to a System 7. The files were transferred at
night to a System 3
by carrying the disk pack across the room. The ATM was called "Tin Teller".
The bank
was Hunterton County Trust. Never forget the day when testing it the
machine at the branch
with my young kids along, the looks on their faces when they saw money come
out of the
slot on the wall.
gene@ehrich
http://www.voicenet.com/~generic
Computer & Video Game Garage Sale
< As far as the -10 is concerned, there would be several hundred (if not
< thousands) of modules and the backplane (for want of a better word) was
< machine wrapped nest of identical (yellow) wires. I doubt that you coul
< reliably follow a signal within a rack, let alone across the whole machi
< However, as I said before, I've never attacked a -10 with a scope so I
< can't be sure that this isn't possible.
Never touched a 10 myself but... I've worked with those who had. Despite
it's complexity most of it is the same thing x36 or some sub multiple.
So troubleshoorting it would be like attacking and older straight 8 or
8I/L series with it's large number of modules. You follow a problem along
a bit path to the point of failure. Usually with a handfull of know good
common modules and a scope. Backplane problems were extermely difficult
if there were any kind if damage to the wiring or connectors.
Allison
< > While isopropanol is good wash a trip through the dish washer works ev
< > time for me. Air dry or a cool oven to get out any trapped water.
<
< This is really good information I am going to try this on one computer
< collection. This unit is so Gummed up by Cigarette smoke I can't even st
< to be in the same room with it, It actually makes my sinuses get irritat
< and makes me sneeze while this machine is on. I opened it up and there w
< sticky film all over the components, almost like a fungus growing on it
< cigarette tar.. I was going to get rid of it as it smelled so bad, so I
< this works..
this takes me back some to a customer that was making TV converter boxes
(legit). Seems the boards were assembled in Mexico and then tested in
Texas. Then would fail after a few hours... seems fungus growing on the
board from the bad water (recirculated and reused excessively) used would
cause high resistance shorts that would affect the microprocessor crystal
clock. The fix was a was a wash in good Texas water.
Actually, a clean board has a lower fail rate as the cooling is better,
no dust or grunge.
Case parts can also be cleaned that way if they fit, me I take them
out in the driveway and use the hose and a bucket of soapy water.
With care you can clean most anything with soap and water... assuming
the object itself isn't water soluble. ;)
Allison
Sorry for this, but it's short.
I recently lost correspondence with a list-member... it turned out
that my e-mail addr had mysteriously mutated, and mail sent there
just vanished, no bounce, no return... zilch. It took a phone call
to clear *that* up. [Correct is: jpl15(a)netcom.com]
I have written two active list members, with no replies, though
they used to do so.
So: Seth M. and Paxton... if you are writing me privately...
I'm not getting them. And if you've gotten my mail(s) and simply
haven't/don't wish to write back.. my profuse apologies to you and
the group, and I'll shut up now.
Thanks for your indulgence, fellow List-friends.
Cheers (digital garlic breath?? nahh....)
John
