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Re.: VCF mentioned in today's Wall Street Journal

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Is that the only speech to be made? > >> >>The article only raises more questions. At the VCF we will answer them, >> >>and a new chapter in the history of the development of the microprocessor >> >>will be written. >> >> For those of us unable to make it to this event, will there be a >> transcript of Holt's speech? > >Yes. And a taped version and a video tape will be made. No definite >plans exist for releasing the video tape of the talk, but an audio >cassette will be produced. > >Also, I'll be releasing the URL to the web site that Ray Holt put up to >disseminate information about the F14 Central Air Data Computer on this >list tomorrow. You guys will be getting this before the rest of the >world. > >It has pictures of the chip masks, technical data, a more recent paper >Holt wrote to put this technology in perspective, and some other data. > >Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ever onward. > > September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 > See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! > [Last web site update: 09/21/98] > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

27 years, 11 months

Re.: VCF mentioned in today's Wall Street Journal

by rcini＠email.msn.com

On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:24:36 -0700 (PDT), Sam Ismail <dastar(a)ncal.verio.com> wrote: >>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, Richard A. Cini, Jr. wrote: >> On page B6, in an article titled "Yet Another 'Father' Of the >> Microprocessor Wants Recognition", there is discussion of Ray Holt, an >> ex-Navy engineer who claims to have created the microprocessor in 1969, two >> years before Hoff, Faggin, and Mazor created the integrated processor. >Actually, its on page B3. In the New York City edition (versus the National edition), it does appear on page B6. Sorry for the confusion. >>The article only raises more questions. At the VCF we will answer them, >>and a new chapter in the history of the development of the microprocessor >>will be written. For those of us unable to make it to this event, will there be a transcript of Holt's speech? Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin!/CW7 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Collector of "classic" computers <========= reply separator ==========>

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IBM 1130 Was: Re: Linux on S/370? Was: Re: printer so

by Marty＠itgonline.com

During my last year in high school in Kensington, Maryland in 1969 an IBM 1103 was installed with about twenty terminals for student use. I never used the 1103 although I 'majored' in data processing which included IBM EAM (Electronic Accounting Machine) plug board wiring and operation (sorting, collating, keypunching, verifying, gang punching printing etc. etc. by the way, if anybody has an old plug board available for sale or trade I would be most grateful). I LOVED the old punch card gear. It was fun wiring plug boards. Marty ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: IBM 1130 Was: Re: Linux on S/370? Was: Re: printer socke Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 9/22/98 11:10 PM > Yeah man! Where???????!!!!!!! I'll rent a tent and camp out at the place > which has one until either they get tired of it or that Y2K thing obsoletes > it. W. Donzelli would be camping right next to me I think. No, I will be letting the air of your car's tires. > Seriously, that would be, in my opinion, the most excellent find! As I > mentioned, I have never heard of any around these days. They were, I > believe, not the typical mainline computers one would hear of in business > like the S/360's and S/370's. Weren't they more used in R&D and academia > because of their ability to handle number crunching not so much as > databases like a business application would? I know little about 1103s, but they were indeed built for number crunching for people that could not afford a big S/360. The 1103 is related to the 1800, used for process control (leading to the S/7). William Donzelli william(a)ans.net ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Sep22.231015.1767.65248; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:10:15 -0400 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA22495; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:08:10 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA19744 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:08:04 -0700 Received: from il1.nyp.ans.net (il1.nyp.ans.net [147.225.190.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA12224 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:08:02 -0700 Received: by il1.nyp.ans.net id XAA20851 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:08:01 -0400 Received: by il1.nyp.ans.net (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:08:01 -0400 Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980922225702.4453B-100000(a)titan.purch.ans.net> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: William Donzelli <william(a)ans.net> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: IBM 1130 Was: Re: Linux on S/370? Was: Re: printer socket (Off topic) In-Reply-To: <199809230020.AAA19961(a)cyber2.servtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

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Motorola UDS modem

by blakeman＠creative-net.net

I have just gotten an original box, foam pads inside that has a manual and modem inside, probably unused. It says it's a Motorola UDS 201 BC, made for Motorola by Universal Data Systems of Huntsville AL. The manual says it's copyright 1986. Has the cable to connect to the regular RJ11 lines (telco) and and RJ45 connector on back to hook in multline phones or regular lines dependant upon the cable used. It also has a 25 pin d-sub on back but it's a female, marked DTE and the manual says its an RS-232C connection. Pretty much like any external modem except for the front switch positions. It's a rotary switch with the following positions: RDLIST RDL LDL AL DATA TLK TTP RTP ST and it has 8 leds that are marked MR/RI TR RS CS CD RD TD TM My guess is that it will do a multitude of things more than a stock dial up modem. Many of you that have been into his stuff when it was new probably know all about it. Anyone willing to make a trade of some standard PC oriented stuff? PS/2 items? make me an offer if you want this as I don't think it's worth much in $$ but a lot to someone that uses this type of equipment or for their collection. A little high brow for me.

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A chapter every computer manual should have

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

>How about what should be line 0, using the gun to prevent the rest of >the instructions being necessary? > You mean: 1) use the gun to shoot the computer (shades of the 3 laws of robotics), or 2) use the gun to shoot the politicians who started the war? Bill Richman incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r (Home of the COSMAC Elf microcomputer simulator!)

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A chapter every computer manual should have

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Shouldn't you destroy the manual too? > >> The last chapter of my "Gun Direction Computer M15" manual has a section >> on destroying the computer if it should fall into enemy hands: > >Instructions ("destructions" as Greenback and Stilletto would say) like >this are common in military tech manuals - at least ones that have even >the smallest chance of being near the front. > >William Donzelli >william(a)ans.net > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

27 years, 11 months

Osborne 1

by firebird＠exit109.com

I have an Osborne 1 in good operating condition with all original software and some additional software looking for a good home. Anyone there interested? This email address was published in the Asbury Park Press. Jim Winer firebird(a)exit109.com http://www.mimidolls.com http://www.WeaverOfWebs.com

27 years, 11 months

EDSAC on your desk.

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< It's not unheard of for a domestic mains supply in the UK to be 240V @ < 80A or even 100A. If I had a PDP10, you can be sure I'd find a way to ge < such a supply. In the USA (MA) 100-200A service pannels are common with both 120/240 ouputs typically under 15A for 120 loops and veriable for the 240. It's fairly trivial to drop a 30A 240 single phase and in my garage I have a plug for one if needed. KL10 8KW is likely not real but a max. < Ouch. That's about 25% efficient. Sorry, but that does need to be < redesigned, particularly if it's a switcher.! for that kind of efficientcy it would have to be a very poor linear as most of them are in the 45-65% range. I'm skeptical that the input load is really 8KW and in reality far less. I'm inclined to believe something more in the range of 4kw is the truth. For example I'm running 4 VS3100s and the name plate says 5.8A at 120v on the back of the /m76 yet the /M10E it's only 1.2A... the reson is the /m76 can daisy chan the AC power out to another box (switched) but the internal power supply is only a 150w switcher needing 1.2A. The underline is that 8kw may well be the AC distribution bus load not the local processor power load. < > However, RP06 drives are another matter entirely. They need three-pha < > power for their motors. I'm reluctant to try the capacitor trick. That works well if the values are right. Keep in mind that the motors are running under a mostly static load so despite their size and power they are running at a fraction of their full load power. < There are electronic 3-phase converters sold in the UK (and I think < Elektor published as design for one). They are typically used for small < (2-3hp) motors on machine tools. I would guess that an RP06 would run of < one of those without any problems. Rotary converter, low efficentcy but they work and can be built. Allison

27 years, 11 months

For Sale/Trade at the VCF - plus want list

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

I have a nice one, I just need the special DOS for it... -----Original Message----- From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@intellistar.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 12:50 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Re: For Sale/Trade at the VCF - plus want list Kai, I have a bunch of extra HP 150s. How many do you want? Joe At 03:26 PM 9/22/98 -0700, you wrote: >Here's a PARTIAL list of the stuff I'll have in my booth at the Vintage >Computer Festival this weekend, followed by my want list. > >FOR SALE/TRADE AT VCF: > >- Apple II (original) systems (2), good cosmetics, neither working, one >needs PS, the other TLC >- Apple II/Bell & Howell "Black Apple" Disk II floppy drives, drives only >(3) >- Apple ///, tested working, plus optional ProFile hard disk and Apple /// >ProFile controller card >- Apple Lisa (Mac XL), nice shape, powers on, needs Sun SCSI card, keyboard >has 3 wrong keys >- Apple Macintosh 128, beautiful! Correct original mouse, keyboard and >Apple-logo power cord >- Atari 65XE, memory error on boot >- Atari 130XE, tested working, plus floppy drive, cable, power supplies >- Atari 800, the original Atari 8-bit, nice shape, tested working, with >power supply and Atari BASIC book >- Atari ST, untested >- Coleco ADAM, tested working, with keyboard & printer >- Colecovision classic game system, mint condition, with 2 controllers, >power supply, 1 game >- Commodore 128D, rare version with separate keyboard/built-in diskette >drive, tested working >- Commodore Amiga 500, technician's special >- Commodore Amiga 1000, the first Amiga, tested working, with 1MB Insider >and 256K cartridge >- Epson PX-8 Geneva, CP/M notebook PC, tested working, with Multi-Unit 64 >and Portable WordStar ROM >- Epson PX-8 Geneva, CP/M notebook PC, tested working except some keys, >needs cleaning? >- IBM PC Convertible 5140, looks great, tested working, with battery >- IBM Portable PC 5150, the original IBM PC in a portable case, flawless >condition >- Sharp PC1500 Pocket Computer with carrying case, printer, manuals, tested >working >- Sharp PC1500A Pocket Computer with carrying case, printer, manuals, tested >working >- SoftStrip Reader!!! Read those barcoded programs along the edge of >magazine pages! In original box >- Sony 15" universal color monitor, accepts Composite, S-Video, Analog RGB, >Digital RGB >- Timex-Sinclair ZX1000, tested working >- TRS-80 Model 100, 32K, tested working, missing battery cover, with Model >100 book >- TRS-80 Color Computer 1, tested working >- Vectrex vector-graphic stand-alone home video game system, M6800 CPU > >WANT LIST: > >- Most anything S-100 bus related, especially but not limited to MITS, IMSAI > >- Documentation or Sales Literature for classic systems > >- Altair 6800 >- Commodore PET Floppy System >- Corvus Concept >- Dynalogic Hyperion >- Exidy Sorcerer >- Heath H8, H11, drives >- IBM AT >- Ohio Scientific systems >- Osborne Vixen >- Processor Technology HELIOS >- RCA 1802 machines (e.g. COSMAC ELF, VIP) >- Rockwell AIM-65 >- Sinclair ZX80 >- Smoke Signal Broadcasting systems, drives >- SWTPC systems, drives > >- Optical serial paper tape reader >- Apple Lisa Office System Diskettes, Unserialized >- HP150 DOS >- Apricot F-Series DOS >- Apple Macintosh Portable Battery > >And of course, can't fail to mention the Apple I, Apple Lisa I, Mark 8, >Scelbi 8H, Sphere, & Xerox Star. > >See you at VCF!! > >Kai > >

27 years, 11 months

VCF mentioned in today's Wall Street Journal

by rcini＠email.msn.com

FYI: On page B6, in an article titled "Yet Another 'Father' Of the Microprocessor Wants Recognition", there is discussion of Ray Holt, an ex-Navy engineer who claims to have created the microprocessor in 1969, two years before Hoff, Faggin, and Mazor created the integrated processor. In the last paragraph, "This week, Mr. Holt will officially launch a campaign to make his name. On Saturday, he will be a featured speaker at a gathering of Silicon Valley computer buffs, the Vintage Computer Festival in Santa Clara, Calif., where he will be joined by members of his original team and publicly discuss his invention for the first time." Congrats Sam! Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin!/CW7 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Collector of "classic" computers <========= reply separator ==========>

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