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Can anyone identify this vax for sale on Ebay?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< I just picked one of these up with the base station that houses a Seagat < ST-251 40 meg hard drive with DOS 6.20 installed! Wacky. It also has < 5.25" floppy drive vertically oriented next to the CRT. The disk box was an afterthought. It was mostly for modems and other add ons. Their big feature was a LANCE chip for eithernet running PCSA (later called pathworks) networking to vaxen via decnet/lat protocals. < Its a very nice 286 machine, but what a pitiful computer considering it < came from DEC. Since it's primarly aim was a diskless dos workstation off of vaxen and dec was still trying to sort out if they were committed to PCs at all it was a rather interesting machine. Allison

27 years, 11 months

ESDI Cabling

by Marty＠itgonline.com

The 34-pin control cable for ST-506 interfaces can either have a twist or be straight through where you need to alter the HDD drive selects accordingly. The 34-pin control cable used on ST-506 interfaces doesn't care whether it lives in a PC PC/XT or PC/AT environment. Marty ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: ESDI Cabling Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 10/1/98 3:55 PM > The only thing in PCs I know of that use a twist cable is Floppies. The AT MFM disk control cable (for ST506-like hard disks) certainly has a twist in it. This twist swaps over 2 of the drive select lines between the 2 drives, so they can both be set to the same drive number. I will have to get the manual if you want the exact details. I think the XT control cable does as well. I have an XT somewhere with 2 ST412 drives (in the 5161 expanasion box) but I'd have to dig it out to check if the cable has the twist. > > Allison > > -tony ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Oct01.155547.1767.67008; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 15:55:47 -0400 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA19121; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:51:23 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA30654 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:49:00 -0700 Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA26817 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:48:59 -0700 Received: from [158.152.97.199] (helo=p850ug1) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zOoif-0004Wt-00 for classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 19:48:58 +0000 Received: by p850ug1 id <m0zOmWg-000IyMC@p850ug1> (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Thu, 1 Oct 98 18:28 BST Message-Id: <m0zOmWg-000IyMC@p850ug1> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:28:23 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: ESDI Cabling In-Reply-To: <199810010124.AA26688(a)world.std.com> from "Allison J Parent" at Sep 30, 98 09:24:50 pm Content-Type: text X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

27 years, 11 months

DEC Vaxstation Mice

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< Is it possible to make regular Mouse-System-Clone bus mouse or Sun Mice < work on a DEC Vaxstation 3100 -- or does anyone have a source of < the DEC mice? I don't think so. Allison

27 years, 11 months

Can anyone identify this vax for sale on Ebay?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< And of course DECsystems might be 36 bit (DECsystem-10 for example), 32 < (DECsystem 5500) or something else (wasn't there a DECsystem based on < either an -8 < or -11? for word processing). I also seem to recall that there were Inte < based DECstations too.... There were two different DEC systems for word processing: WPS 100 and 200 series were PDP-8E or 8A cpus WPS78 6100 CMOS version of PDP-8 DECmate later version of the CMOS based word procesors using the 6120 version of the CMOS PDP-8 on a chip. A possibly incomplete list of DEC systems and what the cpu was used... more or less. These are all "chip" based so it leaves out the PDP-1 through 15 series machines. DECMATE series 6120 processor (a PDP8 in CMOS) VAXmate Intel 80286 oriented as diskless PC workstation for vaxen. DECstation MIPS series Rainbow 8088/z80 Pro3xx PDP-11 (f11 or J11 chips) PDT-11 series KDA11 (LSI-11 series) Falcon T-11 series pdp-11 chip Vt180 (AKA Robin) Z80 MicroVAX VAXstation VAXserver These are VAX systems based on Microvax, CVAX, NVAX and later 32bit VAX based chips. Alpha 64bit archetecture and the chip series based on it. Allison

27 years, 11 months

KL-10 Emulation Underway

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

This message was supposed to have gotten here a while ago, but it never did. Myself and a few other individuals are actively working on a KL-10 emulation. The project is named e10, and is 3.99% finished. I'm busy confusing myself with 36-bit math right now. Anyway, help would be nice to complete this fscker. It's being written in C for Unix platforms, it's under the GPL. Please don't email me and tell me how stupid this is, or how I'm never going to finish, I'm trying my damndest to maintain the Never-Give-Up attitude. I plan to be winning by Y2K. Anyway, does anyone want to help out? I generated a web page (Using vi, of course...) at bony.umtec.com, and the current source can be had from there via FTP in /pub/ka10/*. Any help at all would be appreciated. -------

27 years, 11 months

Can anyone identify this vax for sale on Ebay?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< Allison, just how compatable were the Rainbow and Decmate ll. With what? if each other the answer is not at all. The Rainbow was sorta PC(ish) using z80 and 8088. The DECMATE used a PDP-8 cpu reduced to a chip. Differences, PDP-8 is a 12bit machine and the other two should be familiar. < I have a Decmatell Word Processing 2 book manual no disks and < another Decmate Hardware Configuration Manual with a System < Test Disk and a system overview disk which I have viewed on my < "Bow. From all the diagrams they were identical in appearance and < seemed to have used the same keyboard and monitor. IIRC from < the R'bow fido docs I downloaded from the Finnish site the Bow < could use SCO UNIX (?) Was the 'bow able to access the mini's ? The used a similar box, same Floppy (RX50), if it was installed the same 5/10mb hard disks, monitor and keyboard as those were all coperate standards for that era. other wise they were three different machines (the pro350 was similar style and peripherals). Allison

27 years, 11 months

Windows 1.0?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Kai Kaltenbach <kaikal(a)MICROSOFT.com> wrote: > To the best of my knowledge, there was no Windows 1.00. As I recall, we > released 1.03 as the first version. MSKB article ID Q32905 "Windows Version History" makes reference to Version 1.01 dated 11/85 (it is the first version listed), followed by 1.03 dated 8/86. -Frank McConnell

27 years, 11 months

ESDI Cabling

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< The only PC ESDI controllers I have ever found all have 2 data cable < connectors (20 pin on the card), which can each connect to one drive onl < same as MFM. In fact right now I can't think of any differences between < and MFM cabling for PC's. Not sure about the twist details though. EDSI does not generally use the twist unless that was a PC hack. The Ultrastor EDSI controllers I hav elaying around use the esact cabling as a pair of MFM drive on a WD 1003/5/6 controller. The only thing in PCs I know of that use a twist cable is Floppies. Allison

27 years, 11 months

DEC Vaxstation Mice

by pechter＠shell.monmouth.com

Is it possible to make regular Mouse-System-Clone bus mouse or Sun Mice work on a DEC Vaxstation 3100 -- or does anyone have a source of the DEC mice? Bill +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Bill and/or Carolyn Pechter | pechter(a)shell.monmouth.com | | Bill Gates is a Persian cat and a monocle away from being a villain in | | a James Bond movie -- Dennis Miller | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

27 years, 11 months

ESDI Cabling

by Marty＠itgonline.com

ESDI cabling is definitely the ST506/412 interface used on old MFM (e.g. Seagate ST-225) or RLL (e.g. Seagate ST-238). If the 34-pin control cable is straight through (without the twist) select drive 0 if the selection is 0 and 1. If the selection is drive 1 and 2, select drive 1 (nomenclature varies among manufacturers). Ensure the terminating resistors are installed or you are asking for trouble. If the 34-pin control cable has a twist and you have only one drive attached to the end of the cable with the twist, use drive select 1 if your drive nomenclature is 0 and 1. If the drive select nomenclature is 1 and 2, select drive 2 and make certain you have the terminating resistors installed. Two drive scenario: 34-pin control cable with twist, drive at end of cable with twist use drive select 1 if drive has 0 and 1 as drive selects or 2 if using 1 and 2 drive selects and again ensure the terminating resistors are installed in this drive. The drive in the middle of chain should use drive select 1 if drive has 0 and 1 as drive selects or 2 if using 1 and 2 drive selects (yes, use the same drive select as the C: drive attached to the end of the cable) and make certain the terminating resistors are removed from this drive which will be seen as D: drive. If the 34-pin cable has no twist, C: drive is set for 0 (if drive selects are 0 and 1) or 1 (if drive selects are 1 and 2) and connected at the end of the cable with the terminating resistors installed; D: drive is set for 1 (if using drive selects 0 and 1) or 2 (if using drive select 1 and 2), connected in the middle of the chain and must have the terminating resistors removed. Marty

27 years, 11 months

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