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by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I picked up an Apple Macintosh IIci today. It has a board in it marked "Orange 386". It was made by Orange Micro has a 386 CPU and slots for SIMM memory boards. Is anyone familar with this? I don't have an Apple monitor so I can't power it up and test it. Joe

27 years, 11 months

New to the list

by roblwill＠usaor.net

I believe the DOS version was PC-DOS 2.11. From reading previous posts on this list, and other places, the floppy drive in the PCjr was fairly flimsy, so if may be a "standard" problem. -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: Will Emerson <wpe101(a)banet.net> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: New to the list > Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 9:26 PM > > Hello Aaron, welcome to the list.. I dealt with a PC jr a few years ago, > and iirr, it didn't boot itself, you had to insert a dos (gawd help me > what version) floppy to get it to boot. No clue as to whether that's the > problem, but I'd suggest you try it. No guarantees, but, if you do need > one, I've got a steel box at work with a bunch of old floppies in it, > and I'll be happy to check it, and see if I still have a boot floppy > in there.. Oh, also, fwiw, the PC jr I played with, the floppy drive > was kind of "iffy" as to functioning properly, hopefully a > characteristic > local to the machine I was dealing with.. > > Will

27 years, 11 months

IBM XT286

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

It is IBM's clone of the PC/AT with a few exceptions. Hmm, I'm sure you don't mean "IBM's clone of the PC/AT", since IBM could hardly clone their own product. The XT-286 is actually a warmed-over PC-XT motherboard design, adapted to use the 80286 CPU. It was a product positioned in between the XT and the AT in IBM's lineup. 3. Some AT boards will not fit into it. Actually, no AT boards will fit into it. Although it used the AT's 286 CPU, it retained the XT's 8-bit bus, and was limited to 640K RAM (no 16-bit RAM expansion available). In a sense, you can almost think of it as a "286SX", since it is largely analogous to the 386SX in that it had a bus half the width of the CPU internal core (although I'm not sure whether the motherboard RAM was 8- or 16-bit). The XT-286 failed, not just because of its limited expansion versus the AT, but due to competition from the Turbo XT (8-10MHz 8088/NECV20) market, which had similar performance. Kai -----Original Message----- From: Gene Ehrich [mailto:g@ehrich.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 6:23 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: RE: IBM XT286 >Alas the only information I have on the XT-286 is the circuit diagrams. >It's pretty much an electronic 'clone' of the PC/AT in a different case. >I also seem to remember that the ROM BIOS is almost identical to the >later AT BIOS. I have an XT/286 in a box and used it for many years. It is IBM's clone of the PC/AT with a few exceptions. 1. It uses an XT case 2 It is 6mhz with 0 (zero) wait states. 3. Some AT boards will not fit into it. Due to the zero wait states it is faster than other 6mhz AT's that do have wait states. gene@ehrich http://www.voicenet.com/~generic Computer & Video Game Garage Sale

27 years, 11 months

Apple <> Orange 386?

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

It's a PC compatibility card, similar to those Apple used to sell. Orange Micro is still around, currently selling Pentium cards. http://www.orangemicro.com -----Original Message----- From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@intellistar.net] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 9:47 AM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Apple <> Orange 386? I picked up an Apple Macintosh IIci today. It has a board in it marked "Orange 386". It was made by Orange Micro has a 386 CPU and slots for SIMM memory boards. Is anyone familar with this? I don't have an Apple monitor so I can't power it up and test it. Joe

27 years, 11 months

Universal drive

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 1, 17:08, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > Subject: Re: Universal drive > :: > ::Is there a device that would allow _any_ disk, independently of > ::format, including Apple ][ disks, to be read? I know Teledisk can do > ::this for all conventional formats, but not Apple disks. It would be > ::nice to connect one of these and read the disk image into a file. > ::The main reason why I ask is for rescuing messed up floppies... > :: > > The closest thing to this I can think of would be a Catweasel controller, > but they are not for the faint of heart or ignorant of disk format. They > are also rather difficult to find. Try searching on AltaVista; you may > luck out and find one for sale. At least in the Commodore world, we've been > successful at reading 64 disks on a PC with a Catweasal-enhanced drive. I know someone at Edinburgh who was trying to persuade a Catweasel controller to read/write unusual formats, but last I heard he was making heavy weather of it. Here's the Catweasel URL: http://members.tripod.com/~apd2/catweasl.htm -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

27 years, 11 months

Xerox 16/8

by jbixby＠labwest.northatlantic.nf.ca

I have recently came into position of an old Xerox computer that I really do not know much about and was wondering if anyone out there would be able to send me via e-mail any info that they may have on it. The computer works and all but all that comes up is something about tables and something about invalid drives. If anyone out there has any info on this computer I would greatly appreciate it.

27 years, 11 months

Universal drive

by paulk＠microsoft.com

> Is there a device that would allow _any_ disk, independently of > format, including Apple ][ disks, to be read? > You can look at http://members.tripod.com/~apd2/catweasl.htm for an ISA card that'll (allegedly) read several MFM and GCR formats, including Commodore, Amiga, FAT, Atari, Macintosh, and Apple //. I haven't ever used one, so I can't comment on its reliability, but it might be worth investigating. Paul Kearns paulk(a)microsoft.com

27 years, 11 months

Can anyone identify this vax for sale on Ebay?

by H.Davies＠latrobe.edu.au

At 12:55 PM 01-10-98 -0700, Sam Ismail wrote: >Its a very nice 286 machine, but what a pitiful computer considering it >came from DEC. Of course you have to realize that this is an NC (in the modern sense). A VAXmate worked really well in a network environment with a VAX at the far end running Pathworks. I remember setting one up in 1987 and being impressed with what you could achieve. It was really nice being able to store PC data on our VAX which we backed up properly! Of course, like DECs other NC (the Multia) they were ahead of the market and couldn't sell them to save themselves :-( Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au Information Technology Services | Phone: +61 3 9479 1550 Fax: +61 3 9479 1999 La Trobe University | "If God had wanted soccer played in the Melbourne Australia 3083 | air, the sky would be painted green"

27 years, 11 months

Windows 1.0?

by jolminkh＠nsw.bigpond.net.au

>Kai Kaltenbach <kaikal(a)MICROSOFT.com> wrote: >> To the best of my knowledge, there was no Windows 1.00. As I recall, we >> released 1.03 as the first version. > >MSKB article ID Q32905 "Windows Version History" makes reference to >Version 1.01 dated 11/85 (it is the first version listed), followed by >1.03 dated 8/86. > That fits. I have a copy of 1.02, the "International Version" with files dated 1/86. Hans Olminkhof

27 years, 11 months

Windows 1.0

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Ah, I got the answer... there was a 1.01 with a limited release in the US only, I still have yet to get confirmation over whether there was a retail store package or whether it was bundled only. 1.03 was indeed the first multinational release about 9 months later. I'm sure there wasn't a 1.00, although 1.01 packages may have carried "1.0" markings. Kai -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Walker [mailto:lwalker@mail.interlog.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 9:01 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: als for it On 30 Sep 98 at 9:19, Kai Kaltenbach wrote: > To the best of my knowledge, there was no Windows 1.00. As I recall, we > released 1.03 as the first version. > > 1.03 was available only on 360K 5 1/4" and had no VGA support. 1.04 was the > same as 1.03 except it was available only on 720K 3 1/2" and supported the > PS/2 _exclusively_. > > Kai > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Ismail [mailto:dastar@ncal.verio.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 8:16 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Windows 1.0? > > Someone posted recently that they have the originals (or copies) of > Windows 1.0? Could you please get in touch with me? > > Sam Alternate e-mail: Sorry Kai, I usually tend to take your MS statements as gospel but in this case I've just been looking at the flash page and desktop of Windows 1.01 copyrighted 1984 and the files are dated 11-15-85. Unless this was a pirated version smuggled out of MS or an elaborate put-on it must be the first issue. It has a somewhat-Norton Commander style desktop but has most of the utilities of the later version - notepad, write, calendar ,etc. and a pif-editor and win.ini. It comes on 5 360k disks with a set-up program that builds a small Win.com and an much larger overlay binarie. As you mention it doesn't support VGA and the readme file has a lot of references to problems with AboveBoard (the Intel mem-expansion card). I've had it for a short while and just now installed it on an 8580 PS2 running DRDOS. While I can get the desktop the utilities hang with the familiar hourglass. I just tried it on my 5150 which has an Inboard card and uses the A20 handler but only 1meg memory and also heavily configured and with Dos 5. It crashed leaving me at the prompt. Using my favorite shell CMFiler got me to a blank screen before crashing . Likely memory related. I'm going to try it on one of my 286s' using an earlier dos and with one of 1.01's memory handlers emm.at or emm.xt (dated 7-30-85) in autoexec. I have of course no manual. I do run on, sorry. ciao larry lwalker(a)interlog.com

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