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by franke＠sbs.de

> http://www.milan-computer.de/html_gb/produkt.html The Machine is already in European Shops since half a year. Last Week they showed the 50 MHz 060 Version at the Atari Messe in Neuss, Germany. 80 MHz is anounced around december. This ist not a back from Grave thing - he is still alive and better than ever. Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

27 years, 11 months

Looking for -10 software

by mbg＠world.std.com

Would anyone happen to have sources (and maybe even binaries) for EDDT or any programs which come on paper tape for the -10? I, um, er, need to test some code... :-) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

27 years, 11 months

Irwin 125 floppy tape drive

by svs＠ropnet.ru

G'day, What software for PC-DOS can drive this monster? Whopping 20 megabytes per tape :) I'll try Linux ftape too, but in case it fails, I'd like to have an alternative. -- Sergey Svishchev -- svs{at}ropnet{dot}ru

27 years, 11 months

kits, definitions, prices...

by franke＠sbs.de

> Cameron Kaiser wrote: >> :: Should I hack my Apple-1 to sub in a 99 GHz Pentium for the 6502? >> Wash your mouth out with soap! (How about a 65816? :-) > You mean an Apple-1/GS? Hmm wouldn't give the 65802 the better replacement ? Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

27 years, 11 months

TRS-80 Model 100 (was Re: Convergent Technologies workS

by franke＠sbs.de

>>> thrown in. The NEC and Olivetti versions depended on external modems >> I have the Olivetti version - an M10, and the PCB certainly has positions >> for the internal modem components. Now, it would be quite normal for a UK >> machine not to have the modem (our CCITT tones are different from Bell >> tones at 300 baud, and there are different approval requirements), so I >> assumed that the US model had the modem fitted. > I have never read a report or review of an M-10 with an internal modem. > And the magazines that covered the Model 100 _did_ review the Olivetti > and NEC products, but of course those magazines were rather more than > three moves ago (per Poor Richard, three removes equals one fire), but > I do recall that they all had the same Kyocera main board with minor > changes per customer. Maybe no Magazine did review it, but I own an M10 with internal Modem. Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

27 years, 11 months

Eventual fate of our machines

by franke＠sbs.de

> There's always that issue. I find it analogous to retirement homes in > this area. People 'buy' a retirment home, townhouse, apartment, etc. for > a fixed price and then live there. When they die, it belongs to the > retirement home to sell again. The cycle continues. If you've seen some > of the homes around here, you know they've been around for a while. Part > of the charge funds maintenance fees and lawn care (the latter not being > important for computers). The continuous re-renting of the property > helps keep the available funds around to maintain everything. > I'm not saying that the 'organization' fund for maintenance to whoever > rented the computer, but the concept is similar. The end goal in this > case is to do what's possible to keep it around for the next person. I always fear that 'the organisation' will be put before the mission - in this case profit maximization instead of preserving the past. >>But, if we could keep it to a small and more individual to >>individual base, I'm in. > Do I hear charters? ??? Maybe I lost the thread here. >>> Some of the funding can also be used to provide insurance coverage to >>> members by people who know the value of what's being insured. >>Thats a very dangerous terrain. > I do agree with you. Here, in the state of Pennsylvania, insurance of > any type is heavily regulated. It may not be as bad for other states or > countries. Maybe not - Afaik are insurances around the world very heavy regulated - to keep fraud away and to get enough taxes ... Another possible aproach might be to cooperate with insurance companies. Maybe the same way as for old car collections. At least here in Germany some (smaler) insurance companies are offering very interesting deals in cooperation with Verteran associations. One can get an all included insurance for a USD 200,000 veteran car for less than an minimal insurance for a actual USD 60,000 Mercedes. It just took around 15 years of talks to give them the idea how the collectors handle the cars and whats all this old car stuff is about. There are now even premium insurances where they will pay a complete rebuild of the car, even when burned. Even when a 'new' would be cheaper - and all at an afordable rate - thats exactly what a collector want: keep HIS car (computer) not just one of the same kind. Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

27 years, 11 months

Eventual fate of our machines

by franke＠sbs.de

Sam: > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Hans Franke wrote: >> At first, a 'big' collection, like a museum (and I just >> assume there will be in the future some computer museums >> at least the size of car collections) will have already >> more than 95% of your (or mine) collection, counting the >> CPU's, so they only need 5% for display. The rest will be >> surplus or spare parts in best case. >> Second, they will have, for shure, already more computers >> and accessories than they are able to display. So yours >> might never be seen again autside the warehouse. >> Third, (and most important in my eyes) 99% of all of the >> hard to get software and documentation will never go on >> display > But at least it will be preserved for future research, which is important. or stay for some years until decomposed and ready for enhancing the vegetables area of your garden (like the former owner ...) >> Personal I have not decided what to do with my collection >> (althrugh I alredy have a last will where several persons >> are picked to get some parts or to be responsible for the >> distribution). > You mean you don't remember signing them over to me when you were > visiting? Alcohol does that to a brain. (You'd better check your wallet > too.) Of course I remember about our deal. As soun as the USD 100,000.00 are on my secret swiss account, you will get the promise of full and undivided ownership of all my VIC-20 stuff. >> c) sell them among fellow collectors for their real >> value. That means for example 100 USD for a C65 >> or a chicklet PET. > Are we talking eBay dollars or swap meet dollars? Just talkin about what I belive any old computer is worth: a nice talk and 1 to 5 USD or maybe 50 to 100 USD for real ohmigodicantbelive finds. (Just my personal feeling - In fact I pay most time a lot more :() Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

27 years, 11 months

Eventual fate of our machines

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>Has there been any discussion about the eventual fate of our collections >after we are gone? Well, some supersymmetric (SUSY) theories of grand unification predict that protons will eventually decay. Current experiments put the mean life of the proton at well over 10^40 years, so I'm not too worried myself. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology Voice: 301-767-5917 7328 Bradley Blvd Fax: 301-767-5927 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817

27 years, 11 months

Question: Godbout/CompuPro ram boards

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Well, both the RAM16 and RAM17 use 24-pin 2Kx8 6116 SRAMs, but I checked the tech manuals and there is no mention of EPROM compatibility. The RAM20 was back to 18-pin DIPs, and all the Godbout Econorams I've seen are 18-pin. In short, no clue... Kai -----Original Message----- From: James Willing [mailto:jimw@agora.rdrop.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 10:50 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Question: Godbout/CompuPro ram boards Can anyone confirm this vague memory, or set me straight? I seem to recall that one (or more) of the Godbout/CompuPro ram boards used a 2kx8 static RAM part that had the same pinout as a 2716 EPROM, and could support 2716s in place of some/all of the RAM chips. True or false? And if true, was there any special configuration that needed to be done for the 2716s? -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

27 years, 11 months

eBay strangeness

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Yeah, an unbuilt kit 4K memory board. Which is kind of neat, but it follows in the footsteps of all the bizarre bare unpopulated Altair circuit boards that have been on eBay lately. Did you notice the PET that STARTS at $575?!? Kai -----Original Message----- From: Bob Wood [mailto:altair8800@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 10:29 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: eBay strangeness Am wondering if it is me or if everyone is experiencing this? Someone has listed an Altair 4k memory board. The eBay item number is 34468468. Whenever I go to this listing, my computer locks up. It has happened every time I have tried since earlier in the day. Only happens with this listing and no others. It seems to happen as soon as eBay starts to download the photo from the seller's web site. I have never experienced this with any other eBay auction. Bob Wood ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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