El,, I agree about CompuServe, but one of the online services that I know
of in the later 80's was Tandy's PC-Link. It came with DeskMate, and was
text-only (I think). I'm not sure of the prices, because I never signed
up, though. As for graphics, I don't thing there was much graphics. Most
of it was text.
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> From: Wirehead Prime <wirehead(a)retrocomputing.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Internet Question
> Date: Friday, October 09, 1998 10:17 PM
>
>
>
> > Does anyone remember the cost of internet access/online time via
Compuserve
> > in the 80s ? I need to give a comparison of today's cost of sending a
> > graphics file.
>
> Er...CompuServe didn't have Internet access in the 80s. For that matter,
> it doesn't really have it in the 90s but that's a matter of opinion. =-D
>
> Anthony Clifton - Wirehead
>
< There's also a version of the UCSD p-System, which runs on a minimal -11
< but that probably has licensing restrictions, too.
Runs nice on -11s but the license it far as I know even more tangled.
Allison
< On this it is my understanding that it was a fairly modified version of
< RT-11, and it won't run on a "real" PDP-11.
Most certainly did. the device drivers supplied are heath specific though
for the disks only.
Allison
Just so everyone knows, Hayes has filed for Bankruptcy..
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Earlier I poionted out that RT-11 has a hobby license... after rereading
the License it's clear that's not the case it's only available free for
the Supnik Emulator. This doesn't help most people.
Now, the problem is for those people that have an -11 and want to use it
somehow what is there in the way of OSs?
RT-11 legal restrictions exist...
RSX-11 No idea, but I'd expect licensing again
RSTS Licensing again?
Unix... AVAILABLE via PUPs support group as free binaries and 100$
license for sources. Initially this seems good but not all PDP-11
configurations can run unix and not all versions of Unix have the
drivers to interact with some PDP-11 hardware. So it may take a lot
of work with limited tools or none to get it going.
Xenix, available free as binaries for the PRO... Canned version OF V6
by appearance and if you have other than an RD51 it doesn't work.
So what else is there that is free (or very low cost) and can be run on
most of the LSI-11, PDP-11/23 or 11/73 series? IE: can be run on a
11/03 with RX01 floppy or a 11/73 with RQDX3 MSCP disks (hard disks).
There is fuzzball but I know far to little about it or it's applicability
to various hardware configs.
Allison
Some of you might be interested in this great story and remarkable photographs.
>Hello!
>
>I'd be honoured if you include my webpage about the Digital
>PDP8, PDP11 and VAX compatible computers manufactured in Hungary
>during the existance of the "Iron Curtain":
> http://www.internetto.hu/muzeum/e_tpa.html
>
>I also have a PDP-11 tribute page at:
> http://www.telnet.hu/hamster/pdp-11/
>
>Thanks for your time!
>
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< If a sample of those diskettes is available, I, or Allison, or lots of
< others on this list could check it out and find out just what they have
If it's softsector I have capability. If hardsector it's within my
capability. I lack the financial incentive to persue building one
time hardware/software effort being they are an organization.
Allison
Who's the Canadian guy who said he wanted the box of 3480 1/2" tape
carthridges and was supposed to send me shipping dough for them? I
haven't heard from you since we last spoke.
(Sorry, I forgot who you were).
But this message is also to solicit anyone else who needs these. I've got
a couple hundred. Used once, maybe twice, but otherwise they may as well
be new. I think one application for these is an IBM AS/400.
Just pay me shipping and they're yours. Otherwise I'll find some creative
way to auction them on eBay and make a small fortune.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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< I can't think of a reliable troubleshooting technique that invloves
< feeding unlimited current through the device. The next part to smoke may
< not be the problem at all...
I'd go further to say doing that assures the single point problem is
not a multiple point problem assuming the damage is now not beyond
repairable. Toasting chokes and transformers generally assures the
tech a really nasty task of trying to find one compared to an easy one
finding caps, resistors and semiconductors.
Allison
