You can also get photocopies of most of the Sam's Computerfacts by calling them and asking for one. If they have an old copy in stock, they'll copy it and send it to you for $20. I got Computerfacts for the C64 and C128 this way.
Tony
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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:12:00 Innfogra wrote:
>Hi;
>I have just listed on ebay a group of Sams Computerfacts that I have had some
>interest in from people on the classic computer list.
>
>They are for:
>
>Computers - Osborne OCC1 & OCC1A, TRS-80 Models 3 and 4, Epson QX-10, Franklin
>Ace 1000, Atari 800XL, IBM PC & AT, AT&T 6300, Leading Edge D
>
>Monitors - IBM 5151 and 5153, Amdek Color-I and the Video-300
>
>Printers - Okidata Microlines 82A and 92, Apple A90303, NEC PC-8023A-N, NEC
>PC-8025A, IBM 5152-002, Epsons MX-80 IIIF/T, FX-80, FX-100, MX-100, RX-80,
>FX-286e, Star Geminis 10X and 15X
>
>These can be searched for by the keyword "Computerfact" (Singular context
>please).
>
>I also listed a factory Toshiba T 1100 plus laptop maintenance Manual.
>All of these are under Computer/hardware/books.
>Paxton
>
>p.S. Please direct questions toi Whoagiii(a)aol.com.
>
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The title pretty much says it all...
Having (finally) added a LISA to the collection, I'm looking for a copy of
the Sun Remarketing book on the LISA/Mac XL.
Anyone out there have one that they could be parted from, or induced to
feed thru a copier/scanner?
...and yes, I've seen the one on eBay... it's getting real expensive
already (sigh)
-jim
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>>The mention in this thread of a Kyocera-labeled product intrigues me,
>>as I'd never heard of such at the edge of the Pacific I was on then.
> The Kyocera KC-85 is well known, although not too common. The case is
> shaped more like the NEC, but it has the keyboard of the m100.
> P.S., come to VCF 3.0 and see all the variations (hopefully!) and check out
> the talk I'm going to do (hopefully!) on the history of all these machines.
> (If anyone has any info, history, or anecdotes, please get in touch!)
I have the technical Reference, DOS manual and BASIC I/O Manuals
for the NEC 8201A - interested ?
Gruss
H.
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>>> Just so everyone knows, Hayes has filed for Bankruptcy..
>>Again?
> When was the last time?
I think 3 or 4 years ago.
Gruss
H.
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< No, those running MS software are doing so mostly because MS was
< the only game in town way back when... not hard to be 'best' when
< you're the only one... also not hard to be 'worst'...
Back to the original topic some. History. MS was not the only game
in town. DRI, later Novell, now Caldara offered CPM86 and it decendants
such as CCPM and DRDOS until MS crushed them. Caldara is still at it
with Opendos (DRdos decendant).
< Personally, I avoid MS-anything like the plague... I have a linux
< system which has been up for more than a week straight... running
< W95, I'm lucking if I *don't* have to reboot several times a day
< either because the system has simply crashed, or wedged itself...
I'm no fan of MS but I run a ton of CADD, FPGA and cross assemblers
unavailable for Linux or freeBSD. The system that I must run it on
is MSdos6.22/WIN3.1 that generally has an up time of months between
reboots. The last down time was for a fan replacement. I've never run
w95, but I've seen systems that can achieve that as well. My other half
has a laptop for work that seems to be solid enough. None of the
MS OSs are great products, they work ok though and when the system is
configured with stable hardware and software. I've also found that
linix or freeBSD tends to beat the daylights out of hardware and find
even minor problems that seem to get by under MSdos/win but cause it
to crash intermittently. Most of the complaints I've heard of MS
dos/winders can be leveled at Linux or other unice as well. My pet
peave is that most of the PC unice are limited about what hardware
they run on and like win95 also will not be happy with a minimal 8meg
of ram.
Now what has this to do with old hardware. Unix has been around for
some time, some 25-30 years. It's still not the generalized platform
for applications software. I find that good low cost CADD tools are
non-existant and most require Xwinders which is a memory hog and yet
another potentially cranky item. So until I can find a good CADD,
schematic capture, PCB routing, XAble and Xilinx FPGA package for PC
unice for under a few hundred $$$ MS wins. That defined the market.
Allison
< If it was 1983 then definitely try DOS 3.3. It would be REALLY COOL if
< that thing turned out to be an Apple //e clone. I can't imagine what el
< would be using a 6502 at around that time (besides already established
< designs...most new designs were coming out with 8088's by that time and
< the 6502 was thought to be an oddity of the past).
This is bogus. 1983 was not the end of the line for 8bitters yet. The
8088 was still gathering steam but far from a full head. the 8bit world
would have another two years or so to peak. The Franklin ACE1200 in the
may'83 Microsystems is only one example.
The PC may have launched in 81... but it wasn't the defacto force quite
yet in 1983.. or 86. If anything I'd call that the processor wars eara
with 80186, 80286, 64180, 65816, 16032, 68000 to name a few all jockying
for the next better runner. While that was going on new z80 and 6502
systems were emerging that were smaller, cheaper, faster to capitalize
on the existing and still growing software base.
Allison
> "Hans Franke" <franke(a)sbs.de> wrote:
>> Yes, but as a rule, mainframes and most minis catch undefined
>> opcodes in a special exeption.
> That's only a 'rule' for recent machines. Most of the early ones didn't.
> When IBM was developing the 1401 emulation for the 360/30, they discovered
> that many customers were in fact using and dependent on undefined behaviors
> of the 1401. They had to emulate a lot of things that were never documented.
Now, thats what I call early.
Of course you are right. I did only think back to the 60's
technologie (/360 is the earlyest Mainframe system I ever
programmed).
> References:
> _The Mythical Man Month_ by Brooks,
> _Computer Architecture: Concepts and Evolution_ by Brooks and Blaauw,
> _IBM's 360 and Early 370 Systems_ by Pugh, Johnson, and Palmer
Thank you
Hans
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Micro-SCI made a line of Apple II and III compatable disk drives in the early
80s. I bet they made an Apple clone wannabee. Try apple dos 3.2 or 3.2. You
could have gotten a copy of that too in my whse this weekend.
Micro-SCI was a division of Standum Controlls, Inc. in Santa Anna, CA. This
came out of their ad in a March, 1983 Byte.
Hi;
I have just listed on ebay a group of Sams Computerfacts that I have had some
interest in from people on the classic computer list.
They are for:
Computers - Osborne OCC1 & OCC1A, TRS-80 Models 3 and 4, Epson QX-10, Franklin
Ace 1000, Atari 800XL, IBM PC & AT, AT&T 6300, Leading Edge D
Monitors - IBM 5151 and 5153, Amdek Color-I and the Video-300
Printers - Okidata Microlines 82A and 92, Apple A90303, NEC PC-8023A-N, NEC
PC-8025A, IBM 5152-002, Epsons MX-80 IIIF/T, FX-80, FX-100, MX-100, RX-80,
FX-286e, Star Geminis 10X and 15X
These can be searched for by the keyword "Computerfact" (Singular context
please).
I also listed a factory Toshiba T 1100 plus laptop maintenance Manual.
All of these are under Computer/hardware/books.
Paxton
p.S. Please direct questions toi Whoagiii(a)aol.com.
Damn, you're right, that was the same as the early SA400's. This one isn't
built nearly as solid, though, and the clamp mechanism is driven by
strings(!) that run over pulleys just like an old radio tuner mechanism.
Kai
-----Original Message-----
From: James Willing [mailto:jimw@agora.rdrop.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 1998 9:10 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Re: Microsci HAVAC
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Kai Kaltenbach wrote:
> This weekend I picked up this wacky little 6502 computer called the
Microsci
> HAVAC. Has anyone else ever seen one of these, or better yet, does anyone
> have a boot disk for it?
>
> The HAVAC has the weirdest floppy drive I've ever seen. It has a
> center-mounted clamp lever, and the head positioning is done via a
> spiral-grooved disc!
Well... while I am not familiar with the 'HAVAC', to find a more common
use of the "spiral grooved disc" for head positioning, just look in any
Apple II disk drive! (the early ones, not the 'DuoDiscs')
That was the standard early Shugart 5.25 inch disk positioner mechanism.
-jim
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