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by van＠wired.com

Hello everybody... I hope you are all having a lovely weekend. I have decided to compile a comprehensive registry of all the existing Nutting Associates Computer Space machines that are still alive in North America -- and I need your help. I feel that it is important to the legacy of this revolutionary arcade game, and the history of videogames, to establish the wherabouts and condition of the remaining systems. If either you, or someone you know and love, is in possession of a Computer Space (working or not) please contact me with the following information: .............................. model: (one or two player) color: (red, green, blue, gold, or custom) controls: (buttons, joystick, pistol-grip, etc.) serial#: (stamped on back-plate) owner: (name) location: (city and state) condition: (working or not) comments: - contact info: (optional) If you have an image of your game, please send it as an attachment .............................. This list will be published as a reference for all Computer Space collectors and updated annually. Please feel free to forward this message to ANYONE and EVERYONE you feel may have insight as to the location of a Computer Space machine. Any assistance in locating these machines will be greatly appreciated you will no doubt be relentlessly thanked by me for your help. Best regards, van burnham ........................................................................ @ / / Shift Lever (D)/ \===================================== @ ================ Floor Plan === > BNL |- - -Phase Shifter- - - -|--/ Get Wired! - ------------]=[]@----------------------@ 415.276.4979 Trans- ] ]](A) Toll Free 1.888.208.6655 (B) ? (C) Rear Connection mission ]]]]]]]]]]]]Driveshaft]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ] ]] 71 ------------] web superstation of the stars... van burnham http://www.futuraworld.com production manager wired 520 third street fourth floor san francisco ca 94107 united states ........................................................................ for immediate emergency wireless access send email to van-page(a)wired.com van(a)wired.com van(a)futuraworld.com pingpong(a)spy.net vanburnham(a)aol.com

27 years, 10 months

IBM AT Piggyback Memory

by Marty＠itgonline.com

I've never seen any other pc that used these 128k (64k dip dram piggy-backed) chips. Regarding the numbers of the chips, they were standard 64k dip drams, the IBM part number is long lost on me. Marty ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: IBM AT Piggyback Memory Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 10/19/98 4:22 PM In rummage through the dark recesses of my garage (too densly packed to let in light) I again ran across an IBM AT motherboard that used the piggyback memory chips. Were there any other computers that used these things? Also, does anyone know the numbers of the two chips that were soldered together? ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Oct19.162239.1767.70774; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:22:39 -0400 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA09647; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:20:38 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA50650 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:20:26 -0700 Received: from coyote.rain.org (root(a)coyote.rain.org [198.68.144.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA31 532 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:20:24 -0700 Received: from rain.org (s14.max2.sb.rain.org [198.68.144.197]) by coyote.rain.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11746 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <362B9EBA.D74807C3(a)rain.org> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:19:06 -0700 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: IBM AT Piggyback Memory References: <199810202000.QAA01233(a)armigeron.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

27 years, 10 months

discrete transistors

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

In fact, it seems there are mainframes faster than even a 486-33. So, I guess Intel outran the mainframe systems only recently. > >If one looks at the Linpack benchmark, the CDC 6600 was almost twice as >fast as a Sun 386i/250 (info lifted from ><http://lithos.gat.com/docview/linpack.bb>). > >> BTW, what did the Cray I use? > >The Cray-1s used simple ECL chips - I think there were only four types in >the whole machine. > >William Donzelli >william(a)ans.net > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

27 years, 10 months

discrete transistors

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

> >< But you can't build a *system* with that overall density. > >Long standing problem but, the military did have machine approacing that >density. Consider that once you got over a certain size it was less >imporant to be small. > What about 386s? Did Intel outrun the mainframes with the 386, or were there discrete transistor machines with better performance than that? BTW, what did the Cray I use? >Yep. > >I disagree that a 286 had more raw cpu performance than some of the big >transistor machines. I still remember the BOCES/LIRICS KA10 running some >300 users. I've never seen a 286 run more than 4. Same applies to IBM >2060s. > >Allison > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

27 years, 10 months

TOPS-20

by mbg＠world.std.com

>>[Has anyone USED TOPS-20?] > >I'm using it, right now. To send this message. I've used TOPS-20 in the past, and recently got a guest account on a -20 based system. I have to admit I prefer TOPS-10 over TOPS-20 any day, but reasons why could inflame a 'religious' war... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

27 years, 10 months

Belly laugh on eBay

by Marty＠itgonline.com

That wasn't the first p of s IBM delivered. Marty ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Belly laugh on eBay Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 10/19/98 3:40 PM This item description on eBay says it all: 36111353 Collectible IBM PS/1 Type 2011 BWAHAHAHAHA! Kai ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Oct19.154052.1767.70755; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:40:52 -0400 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA25925; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:38:34 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA19986 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:38:26 -0700 Received: from mail5.microsoft.com (mail5.microsoft.com [131.107.3.121]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA17 074 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:38:26 -0700 Received: by INET-IMC-05 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <VBTZ1YQJ>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:38:22 -0700 Message-Id: <FFD1BA74C6A7D111A09500805F9F88F50720B045@RED-MSG-43> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:38:21 -0700 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kai Kaltenbach <kaikal(a)MICROSOFT.com> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Belly laugh on eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

27 years, 10 months

TOPS-20

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< > [TOPS on a PDP-10 is a *MINUS*?] < < > What? You're kidding, right? What is wrong with PDP-10s?

27 years, 10 months

TOPS-20

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< Every so often, people here mention how they wish they had TOPS-20 < on their modern computers, how much superior it was to UNIX, etc. < COuld someone please explain the specific features (apparent to a < user) that are missing in UNIX? If I understand correctly, TOPS takes It's been 27 years since I ran TOPS10 but the differences can be summed up as a better human interface at the command line level. I've always considered the unix command line userhostile. Allison

27 years, 10 months

Need Info on DEC 11/84 Board, M8190/thread drift

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< What do you mean it was done with 386s? There were boards to put 386s in XT machines. I have one, an Intel inboard386pc. It replaces the 8088 (the 8088 has to be removed). There were others made. Allison

27 years, 10 months

RIP Jon Postel

by rax＠warbaby.com

October 17, 1998 I REMEMBER IANA Vint Cerf A long time ago, in a network, far far away, a great adventure took place Out of the chaos of new ideas for communication, the experiments, the tentative designs, and crucible of testing, there emerged a cornucopia of networks. Beginning with the ARPANET, an endless stream of networks evolved, and ultimately were interlinked to become the Internet. Someone had to keep track of all the protocols, the identifiers, networks and addresses and ultimately the names of all the things in the networked universe. And someone had to keep track of all the information that erupted with volcanic force from the intensity of the debates and discussions and endless invention that has continued unabated for 30 years. That someone was Jonathan B. Postel, our Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, friend, engineer, confidant, leader, icon, and now, first of the giants to depart >from our midst. Jon, our beloved IANA, is gone. Even as I write these words I cannot quite grasp this stark fact. We had almost lost him once before in 1991. Surely we knew he was at risk as are we all. But he had been our rock, the foundation on which our every web search and email was built, always there to mediate the random dispute, to remind us when our documentation did not do justice to its subject, to make difficult decisions with apparent ease, and to consult when careful consideration was needed. We will survive our loss and we will remember. He has left a monumental legacy for all Internauts to contemplate. Steadfast service for decades, moving when others seemed paralyzed, always finding the right course in a complex minefield of technical and sometimes political obstacles. Jon and I went to the same high school, Van Nuys High, in the San Fernando Valley north of Los Angeles. But we were in different classes and I really didn?t know him then. Our real meeting came at UCLA when we became a part of a group of graduate students working for Prof. Leonard Kleinrock on the ARPANET project. Steve Crocker was another of the Van Nuys crowd who was part of the team and led the development of the first host-host protocols for the ARPANET. When Steve invented the idea of the Request for Comments series, Jon became the instant editor. When we needed to keep track of all the hosts and protocol identifiers, Jon volunteered to be the Numbers Czar and later the IANA once the Internet was in place. Jon was a founding member of the Internet Architecture Board and served continuously from its founding to the present. He was the FIRST individual member of the Internet Society I know, because he and Steve Wolff raced to see who could fill out the application forms and make payment first and Jon won. He served as a trustee of the Internet Society. He was the custodian of the .US domain, a founder of the Los Nettos Internet service, and, by the way, managed the networking research division of USC Information Sciences Institute. Jon loved the outdoors. I know he used to enjoy backpacking in the high Sierras around Yosemite. Bearded and sandaled, Jon was our resident hippie-patriarch at UCLA. He was a private person but fully capable of engaging photon torpedoes and going to battle stations in a good engineering argument. And he could be stubborn beyond all expectation. He could have outwaited the Sphinx in a staring contest, I think. Jon inspired loyalty and steadfast devotion among his friends and his colleagues. For me, he personified the words ?selfless service.? For nearly 30 years, Jon has served us all, taken little in return, indeed sometimes receiving abuse when he should have received our deepest appreciation. It was particularly gratifying at the last Internet Society meeting in Geneva to see Jon receive the Silver Medal of the International Telecommunications Union. It is an award generally reserved for Heads of State but I can think of no one more deserving of global recognition for his contributions. While it seems almost impossible to avoid feeling an enormous sense of loss, as if a yawning gap in our networked universe had opened up and swallowed our friend, I must tell you that I am comforted as I contemplate what Jon has wrought. He leaves a legacy of edited documents that tell our collective Internet story, including not only the technical but also the poetic and whimsical as well. He completed the incorporation of a successor to his service as IANA and leaves a lasting legacy of service to the community in that role. His memory is rich and vibrant and will not fade >from our collective consciousness. ?What would Jon have done?? we will think, as we wrestle in the days ahead with the problems Jon kept so well tamed for so many years. There will almost surely be many memorials to Jon?s monumental service to the Internet Community. As current chairman of the Internet Society, I pledge to establish an award in Jon?s name to recognize long-standing service to the community, the Jonathan B. Postel Service Award, which is awarded to Jon posthumously as its first recipient. If Jon were here, I am sure he would urge us not to mourn his passing but to celebrate his life and his contributions. He would remind us that there is still much work to be done and that we now have the responsibility and the opportunity to do our part. I doubt that anyone could possibly duplicate his record, but it stands as a measure of one man?s astonishing contribution to a community he knew and loved. -- Warbaby The WebSite. The Domain. The Empire. http://www.warbaby.com The MonkeyPool WebSite Content Development http://www.monkeypool.com Once you get the nose on, the rest is just makeup.

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