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by jws＠jwsss.com

I wonder how it could take them three months to figure something out. Maybe Chuck can comment. But over a year after they spent the 3 months. Hmmm. It will be interesting to hear what was recovered, though from what has been written and passed down about Roddenberry, I'm not expecting much. On a tangent, from a lecture 35 years ago by Harlan Ellison, I hope all of his papers are preserved and transcribed. He had about 15 4 drawer cabinets of work notes at that time, probably double or triple that now. I think at the time he worked manually as well. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/floppy-disks-star-trek-creator-182855583.html Thanks Jim

10 years, 3 months

A long note about the panel pictures.

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys! The big picture shows a fame with three masters on it. Oh yes you might say they put the panel in and print in three passes. Er no. having three different colour inks sloshing around in a frame at the same time might cause a few problems. From bottom up we have Terracotta, then amber and finally white. First they line up the blank panel with the Terracotta master and screen all the blanks with that colour. They go into a special rack to dry. Now they have to get rid if every trace of Terracotta ink without messing the master up. They like to leave 12 - 24 hours between passes. (Overnight if they can) . They repeat the process for Amber . Finally we come to the White layer. Try putting a 1mm white line between two different colours , always keeping the two colours on the correct sides of the line with no gaps. OK thats what they did with the first batch. Generally they were very well received and looked good. I asked for feed back and one list member said the real ones appear to be matt black on the front. I got an old panel shipped over because I thought it was just age and dirt. Well it wasn't matt black nor was it dirty. They had put a translucent layer on the front that helped to deffuse the light from the lamps and had this strange optical effect of making the front look matt black. Going back to my DEC days I think the the general view was they were matt black on both front and back to stop unwanted reflections due to the point light sources from filament lamps. So I asked if we could get some suitable ink. and try it out. Well the answer came back that whilst it was fine for deffusing the light over the holes on the back , they were not happy with the results on the front. A thin layer of real matt black on the front was much nearer the sample they said. So I added a thin matt black layer on the front for the current batch. You can't tell the difference. I think I know what may have happend. If you put a layer of matt black on the front you need an extra screen with holes that line up with those on the back. A translucent layer just goes right across. I believe it was intended to be black on both back and front but somebody did a bit of cost engineering. Well two can play that game and I have come up with an answer. From my normal supplier I have been able to source our standard 3mm perspex but with one side having a silk finish. It minics the effect of the old plastic with the diffusing ink perfectly! The front looks matt black. It also makes the ink adhere better Saves putting a front matt black layer on future batches and you cant tell. Rod

10 years, 3 months

Front panels Video clip

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys I have a short video of part run boards awaiting their turn for the next layer. (probably a bit boring). One of the girls is in the picture (not boring) If you want I can attach it to an email. Its a .mov file. Email me off list for a copy. Rod

10 years, 3 months

Correction - Front Panel Update

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Ooops! For boards read panels Rod

10 years, 3 months

Open VMS System Mgt Guide Scripts Avail.

by billdegnan＠gmail.com

I've uploaded the contents of the disk that accompanis the book "OpenVMS System Management Guide" by Lawrence Baldwin here: http://www.vintagecomputer.net/digital/OpenVMS/ Maybe your copy is missing the disk. The disk contains scripts for version 5-->6 transition. Does anyone know of any MULTINET script libraries? -- Bill

10 years, 3 months

Free HP 3000 Equipment for removal (Denver Craigslist)

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

Marc, this is a good reason for anyone to convert their old rec room into a machine room. Just make sure to paint the walls brown and fit wall-to-wall orange carpeting. ;) I was seriously tempted on this myself but even picking up ONE 7925 from Idaho was an astounding task. A whole setup in Denver? That's nuts. -John >Cool, glad someone's snagging it. I wish, but I don't know where I'd put >it. > >On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:34 PM, CuriousMarc <curiousmarc3 at gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm on it... >> Marc >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Glen >> Slick >> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 8:38 PM >> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >> Subject: Free HP 3000 Equipment for removal (Denver Craigslist) >> >> Someone go get this. >> >> posted: 2016-01-04 12:20pm >> >> http://denver.craigslist.org/sys/5387506164.html >> >> I have the following HP 3000 computer equipment in my basement yours FREE >> for removal >> >>--TRIMMED--

10 years, 3 months

Conservation issue - shrink-wrapped manual

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

So I have a question for people who are involved in museums, and similar roles - how intense should I be about keeping things just as they were? I have a DEC manual (actually a Products Guide) still in its original shrink-wrap, and I'm interested in hearing opinions/rationales on whether or not I should keep it like that, as opposed to (carefully) opening it to be gain access to the content. Is there any value at all, historically, to keeping the original packaging intact, or should I just go ahead and open it? Thanks! Noel

10 years, 3 months

PDP-8 core memory for sale (_not_ from me)

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

So there's this item: http://www.ebay.com/itm/262217954449 I'm not an -8 person, so maybe there's some reason nobody's biting, but if not, I thought I'd point it out. Noel

10 years, 3 months

Front panel update

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys Just got back from the silk screeners. Panels everywhere!! Final layers (Amber and white ) going on. Customising insets for type A and B ready Front is now matt black as per requests. They are sourcing some ready made packaging and plastic cloth. Its that soft stuff you get round hifi's and TV's etc. I have some pictures I took on the wifes iPad. If I can get them off on to my PC I can send then out. I'm working on a Web server as focal point for everything panel. In addition to DEC Straight 8, 8/e (A or B), 8/f and 8/m, I also have artwork for IBM 360 and Burroughs 3500 PDP 11/40 (PDP10) thru 11/70 are under way. Regards Rod

10 years, 3 months

Conservation issue - shrink-wrapped manual

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Ian S. King > Implicit in the "involved in museums" domain: artifacts come in, they > don't go back out except on loan. :-) What, you've never heard of 'de-acquisitioning'? (Boy, that one sure wins the George Orwell Memorial NewSpeak award...) Noel

10 years, 3 months

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