Hey folks! I got this from the Heath reflector I am subscribed to. I
already have an H8 that I built back in '83 so one of you should get it. I
believe the SS-9000 Ron refers to is a Heathkit communications receiver
(shortwave rcvr.) which can be controlled by computer. Have to check my old
Heathkit catalog file on this.
Email Ron directly.
>Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:49:43 -0400
>Reply-To: Ronald Oxley <rtoxl(a)ANDREWS.EDU>
>Sender: Heathkit Owners and Collectors List <HEATH(a)LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
>From: Ronald Oxley <rtoxl(a)ANDREWS.EDU>
>Subject: H8 computer
>Comments: cc: heathkit(a)qth.net
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>For Sale:
>
>Heathkit H8 computer system. Includes computer, disk drive, terminal,
>printer and software. Included with software is program for controlling
>SS-9000 transceiver. Make offer if interested.
>
>73,
>Ron, WM8Z
>
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Regards, Chris
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Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/
I'm looking for a Lisa 2 or 2/5 I/O board. That's the version of the board
with the nicad battery pack; the 2/10 I/O board did not have the battery or
supporting electronics.
Actually I'd be interested in any spare Lisa parts at all, working or not.
Cheers,
Eric
>> >I loved LDOS. It is my second-favourite 8 bit OS. My favourite (of
>> >course) is OS-9.
>> >
>> >-tony
>> >
>> You've got to be a real masochist or something, I HAVE TO work with it
and
>> I'd give it away for any other OS. Unless you're talking about the COCO
>> version which I heard was pretty good for the platform it was intended;
OS-9
>
>Note I said '8 bit OS'. That rules out OS9-68K, etc. I was refering to
>the original 6809 version which is pretty darn good.
Yes the it fits the description of being 20 years old and 10 years ahead
(loosely:)
>
>-tony
>
Actually, Tim Mann's TRS-80 page is where I got the disk images. I was
going to get xtrs, but I don't have Linux (nor do I have the money to get
it). I have an emulator that'll run in DOS, but won't recognise the file
format of the disk image.
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
PS>> I'm also trying to find something that's not shareware (ie: can only
emulate Mod I, and can emulate Mod III arfer $45 registration fee).
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> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: TRS-80 emulators
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 6:59 PM
>
> For what host? xtrs can emulate the M3, and on a linux machine it will
> use physical drives, so presumably you can make disks for your real model
> 3. xtrs runs under x on just about any unix machine.
>
> There may be emulators for other platforms that can do the same.
>
> A good place to start is Tim Mann's TRS-80 page. Search for that with
> your favourite search engine (the URL is not to hand at the moment,
alas).
>
> -tony
>
For some reason, I thought Linux was like $50, or something.
Just forget that comment. I'm downloading it now.
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
>
> Bzzzt, Linux is free That means you don't need money to get it. Get it?
>
> >format of the disk image.
> >--
> > -Jason
> >(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
> > ICQ#-1730318
>
>
>Incidentally, if anyone's interested in LDOS, the source code for (I
>think) 6.3.x, along with disk images for the TRS-80 emulators are
>availabe from Tim Mann's TRS-80 page.
>
>I loved LDOS. It is my second-favourite 8 bit OS. My favourite (of
>course) is OS-9.
>
>-tony
>
You've got to be a real masochist or something, I HAVE TO work with it and
I'd give it away for any other OS. Unless you're talking about the COCO
version which I heard was pretty good for the platform it was intended; OS-9
is a dinosaur (and I don't mean a lean mean one)
To quote one definition I read : OS-9 is a 20 year old OS that is 10 years
ahead of it's time (for those who don't get it: it's 10 years outdated
relying on reputation)
Francois
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>Actually, Tim Mann's TRS-80 page is where I got the disk images. I was
>going to get xtrs, but I don't have Linux (nor do I have the money to get
>it). I have an emulator that'll run in DOS, but won't recognise the file
Bzzzt, Linux is free That means you don't need money to get it. Get it?
>format of the disk image.
>--
> -Jason
>(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
> ICQ#-1730318
< > It is good design in my opinion to have your address bus twice as wide
With a 128 bit wide data bus for a predominatly byte oriented machine
all that means is every memory cycle gets you 16bytes at memory cycle
speeds. It's a bus bandwidth saving trick as it effectively can give
what ever your word time is to put up another 16bytes. This goes back to
the core days when memory was slower than the CPU. The penelty is a
whopper when all your doing it altering or writing one byte as you have to
resort to RMW (read, modify, write) cycle at memory speeds. The alternate
is a lot of word/byte selection logic that can slow things
down.
With the upper speed of available z80s (z180s180) being 33mhz there is
plenty of speed so that it can hurry up and wait for the disk, floppy
and user.
Allison
< I have never tho't of the Z80 as a slow processor. I interfaced a Z180
< running at 18 mhz to a VGA board recently and using a C compiler was abl
< build a machine that acted essentially like a 80286 running at 10 mhz.
Inthe early to most of the 80s I've spent a fair amount of time using 6
or 8mhz z80s to blow the doors off of x86 hardware. The z80 is a better
IO machine!
< Z80 is a pretty cool platform for building an extremely cheap and modern
< network computer since it acts a lot like a 16 bit processor. There's
< you can do with it with a relatively minimal effort.
The z280 is even better, the enhancements it has are pretty decent and
it's faster still.
Doing your own design in a FPGA is harder than would first appear. Unless
your using a known core things like gate delays (race conditions) can
bite you. Also some routing paths can be slower than others so you may
get far less than the rated Tpd.
Allison