> I don't know if it is rare, but it certainly sounds unusual. Current price
> is $27.00 and the reserve has not been met.
> Another interesting item from ebay. URL is:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=36318754
Go OFF it's MINE !
:)))
In fact, it's not realy rare, zillions have bin made,
but I still miss it.
Gruss
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
> That sucks (in my opinion). (You like my 16bit addressing? kinda make you
> yearn for the good 'ol days when you programmed in hex! Like real men! No
> sir! We didn't have no Visual Basic or C+++++++++! When we wrote a silly
> like program, it was an accomplishment! (....but they still were silly
> little programs.)). But I digress....
> I like:
> IO port 0=Keyboard control
> IO port 1=Keyboard data
> IO port 2=Device 1 control
> IO port 3=Device data
> etc.
Gee fine - back to the time when the CPU had to do any
little pice of sh.. by itself - never asked why Mainframes
can handle so much more date with the same tecnologie
than PCs ? go back and learn.
> Your response: "But, what if you need to transfer a big block of data like
> a NIC? You really need to memory map that."
> My answer: "Pretend that the IO addresses are memory. With a 128 bit
> address bus, you'll never run out of spaces!"
So waht now ? memory maped or I/O space
There is ABSOLUTLY no sense in building a super fast CPU and
then spending all time in I/O polling (or interrupt handling)
Lets get real again.
Gruss
H.
P.S.: in 1986 I had a 100 MHz Turing machine running - I bet
it was one of the fastest computers at this time -
Fast and Useless.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
>> In a recent telephone conversation with Tony Duell, he mentioned that
>> someone (was it Kevan?) was thinking of doing a VCF in the UK. To that
> I think you missed his posting where he said he had received only 5
> replies. So it looks like a non-stater.
Gee - this is not an option.
>> person: I am definitely prepared to support you. I can provide plenty of
>> computers for exhibiting; I can talk on some suitable subject; I am
>> prepared to chip in a fair amount of dosh to get this show on the road.
> I'll also provide machines and a talk if anything comes of this.
I will haul up one trunk of machines.
> Alas I can't provide much cash at the moment...
Hmm maybe s.o. should look out for a place (not nessecary as
fancy as the Santa Clara Convention Centre :), and when we have
actual numbers, we might try to put up the money. I don't have
much availabe either, but I thing we can find a solution.
Gruss
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
>
>The only thing I saw of interest:
>
> BURROUGHS
>
>23879724 G 300 VIDEO BOARD ET110 $5
>283531-006 G 2 1351 CONT CCA ??? don't know what it
is
>2993-0666 G 295 WER SUPPLY $5 to $8
>3388-7498 G 169 KEYBOARD ASSY $5
>AP1351 G 5 PRINTER, AP 1351 If this is a complete
printer $10 to $15
>B28CPU G 1 CPU
>E2817B39-HT G 62 CRT $5 considering that they will have to
pay to dispose of to meet EPA regs.
>ET-1100 G 9 TERMINAL $5 to $10 Disposal costs as above.
>
>Any ideas?
I put what I would bid by each item I could guess. I am not familiar with
Burroughs equipment. Remember these are EACH prices.
>There's also a ton of Apple ][ stuff like keyboards, power supplies, disk
>drive mechs, etc. Great if you wanted to start a classic Apple ][
>restoration and repair business (providing the stuff is all new).
That is why I thought this would be of interest to this list. If you note
in the header of the list it is all in good condition. This historically
means that it is surplus from a repair depot. The other condition code they
have had in the past are as follows (pasted from the weekly bid list)
CD CODE
"N" = Never Used With No Factory Warranty.
"G" = Used Material In Good Condition.
"U" = Unknown functionality, RETURNS will be allowed ONLY if MISSING
MAJOR components.
"D" = Defective material with no returns allowed
Dan
>Can you tell us more about the type of auction this is?
Sealed bid
>Is it one of those auction where you can walk away with a pentium for $5
YES On last weeks bid I won a VAX4000-300 for $82. a bunch if DIgiboards
for $5.00 ea. Sorry everyone that has commercial value to me.
>is it more of the upper type wher you pretty much have to be within 105 of
>the retail valu in order to win it?
Not at all. This equipment is from a new division that did not have a
surplus sales group. Tha format was different than the usual bid lists so I
called my rep. about last weeks list and they are hoping to get 5 cents on
the dollar. Anything that does not sell will be going to be recycled as
they are very carefull about EPA regs.
>Have you had any experience with this sort of auction?
I have been doing business with them for over a year. The regular weekly
bids I rarely get good deals on - about 70% to 80% of wholesale are typical.
The special bids like these are where I make out. I will admit that this
equipment is not the usual type they offer - remember it is a newly acquired
division.
>What I'm getting at is I've seen a few things on the list that I like but
>hve no idea what to bid on them.
I would be sure to be over the scrap value (figure 50 to 75 cents a pound is
scrap value) but based on the bid I won last week not more than 5% of
wholesale new.
>Also it seems like the terms for payement are very tight 2 days to send the
>money or you're out how do you propose to proceed? Are you going to send a
>"big" check for the bid and hope that everybody follow up on their bid?
I still do not know why they put that in there. I actually have 15 days
>from shipment to pay for it. provided I am not way above my theoretical
credit limit and YES I am hoping that everyone will be following through
because I will be stuck with the equipment if they don't. I have had some
long discussions with a couple of people on this list about this and was
informed that most everyone is quite honorable.
Another note of interest I have only gotten the response for 1 of last weeks
bids so far. It had to be in on monday and I got the response thursday (1
day late). Tuesdays bids were supposed to be released thursday. When I get
the response to those bids I will let you know.
Don't worry if I think any bids are to high I will let you know. I can only
do this however on equipment that I am familiar with.
For shipping considerations due to the amount I won on last weeks bid I have
told them to change it to truck and gave them my account info for a major
truck line, This is the first time I have had to change to truck shipping.
Also for figuring shipping I am in North Carolina.
Dan Burrows
336-376-0468
dburrows(a)netpath.net
>> BTW: LDOS - I have a Modell III with external HD - hasn't
>> there been an LDOS to boot from ? (I'm not the deep TRS guy).
> The only "official" operating system for a Model III with a hard
> drive _was_ LDOS. Also for the Model One. TRSDOS 6, later called
> LS-DOS, was written by Logical Systems for the Model 4. (There
> was also a version of LS-DOS for the Model II/12 series [8" drives]
> but all of my copies were lost years back in a move, along with a
> lot of other material related to those systems -- as Ben Franklin
> once said, three moves equals one fire).
Jep, but what about booting ? The only LDOS I have needs
still to boot from FD.
Gruss
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
I've got a box of them you can have for the shipping cost. I haven't
checked lately, but I think there are like 8 or 10 or more in the box...
>Arfon Gryffydd wrote:
>>
>> 2) Anyone have any old ARCnet cards they wanna get rid of???
>
Bill Richman
incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r
(Home of the COSMAC Elf
microcomputer simulator!)
At 19:27 22-10-98 -0700, you wrote:
>A little more information such as the equipment being offered would help
>us decide if there's anything we want :)
The list is on my page, Sam. It's huge! 330K plus. That's why we decided
not to send it directly to the list.
The URL for the primary page is in my sig line. It can be reached directly
at:
http://table.jps.net/~kyrrin/bidlist.txt
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Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
(Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)jps.net) (Web:
http://table.jps.net/~kyrrin)
SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905)
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
The bid list that Dan Burrows mentioned is available for viewing on my web
site. Look for the obvious link from the main page.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
(Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)jps.net) (Web:
http://table.jps.net/~kyrrin)
SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905)
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
I am on a major computer manufacture's surplus equipment bid list.
The list that came out today has a lot of equipment that would be of
interest to people on this list.
I am not interested in making any money from this all that I ask is that all
costs will be covered. I will have to pay the shipping from them to me and
that will needed to be figured into the final cost. I have just spoken to
Bruce Lane about this and he is putting it on his web site. I would also
ask that anyone that is interested in putting in a bid just email me with
the line of interest and $ they want me to bid per unit. You can bid on any
# up to the quantity listed. Please include your Phone # In case of any
questions.
If there are multiple bids on one item I will try my best to use the time of
the bid to
choose priority. I have no intention of making any money from this and hope
people will understand if I get flooded I may have to cut things off.
To give me time please let me know of any interest by Sunday Oct. 25 to give
me time to reformat and sort everything for sending in the final bid by noon
Monday.
Also please keep any phone calls to before 10:00 PM eastern time. I try to
keep peace with the wife :)
Thanks
Dan Burrows
336-376-0468
dburrows(a)netpath.net
