I was contacted by a guy who works for a computing lab at a major US
University on the East Coast who is looking for an SP/2 they can display
in their lobby.
I have one, but it'll be a monumental pain in the <cough> to get out of
here. I wanted to drop a line and see if anyone had one they'd be willing
to part with in the US, preferably near-ish to the right coast.
Thanks all;
- JP
Yesterday I checked the 9000/217 98204B combo with my oscilloscope and I can confirm the 25kHz horz. frequency (1V down to 0.3V pulses every 40 us).
I cannot measure the pixel clock as my oscilloscope was too cheap (I had to compromise) and thus cannot sample at higher MHz rates. I only see that it goes from 1V to approx. 2.2V.
Just for my understanding: if I do the math: 512 pixels x 400 rows = 204'800 pixels at 50 Hz I end up with 10.2 MHz and at 60 Hz = 12.3 MHz.
There is more "room" required for the retrace time, probably another 10% or so?
So I understand that the monitor must be capable of ~25 kHz and 10...14 MHz and that I better try before buy.
It is difficult to find specs for these HP 9000 video boards.
In case it is useful for someone ... my list below is still missing DIO-bus type (1 or 2) and signal frequencies.
98204B Video Board medium resolution (512x390) monochrome for 35721 monitor, DIO-1
98542A Monochrome Video Board medium resolution (512x400) monochrome
98543A Color Video Board medium resolution (512x400) 16 colors
98544B Monochrome Video Board high resolution (1024x768) monochrome
98545A Color Video Board high resolution (1024x768) 16 colors
98546A/B Monochrome Video Board medium resolution (512x390) monochrome alpha/graphics, for 216/217 display compatibility
(a pair of cards, compatible with 2136 and 217 displays (512x390, 25x80))
98547A Color Video Board high resolution (1024x768) 64 colors
98548A Monochrome Video Board high resolution (1280x1024) high performance
98549A Color Video Board high resolution (1280x1024) high performance
98550A Color Video Board high resolution (1280x1024) high performance
98700A Graphics Display Station high resolution (1024x768) 256 colors
98710A Graphics Accelerator optional for 98700A
98720A High Performance Board high resolution (1280x1024) nur HP-UX, requires 98724AA interface and 98784A monitor
98730A High Performance Board high resolution (1280x1024) nur HP-UX
98722 memory upgrade optional for 98720A
Martin
I need to recover some files from a SCSI drive that failed over a decade ago.? Are there data recovery services that can determine if the files on the drive can be recovered or can actually do such a recovery?? Now that I think about it, I recently also had a fairly new Western Digital drive suddenly no longer be seen by any Windows PC and I really need many of the files on it.? Can anybody here tell me if drive manufacturers offer recovery services? I ask this since I saw a post somewhere that Seagate offers some sort of file recovery via cloud storage.
As you can tell, I am by no means super-knowledgeable about modern systems since I am from the WANG 2200 MVP, WANG PC, and WANG Basic 2C era, and still have a few pieces of WANG hardware collecting dust.
I apologize if I am posting this to a group where it is inappropriate.
Thank You,
John
Someone asked a question about it privately, I researched today and found
the answers so I'll post here as well for posterity.
The HP 2610A printer that I have.... 2610A was the HP designation for the
Control Data Corporation 9322 Printer. HP sold the printer basically
unmodified (as far as I can tell) and slapped their label on it. Mine seems
to be in rather good condition so I suspect it will be restorable. In
addition, I unearthed a full set of manuals/docs for the thing. Most
manuals I have are HP ones, but a few in the binder are CDC manuals for it.
At the same time, I also found several binders of docs for the HP 2754 (also
have one of those). 2754 is the HP designation for the Teletype model 35KSR.
HP sold the printing terminal/reader/punch with minor modifications and
slapped their label on it. I have a complete set of docs, mostly HP branded
but some (wiring lists, lubrication, disassembly, etc.) are Teletype
branded.
Various select pictures of the manual pages are at
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131070638 at N02
J
Does anybody have any experience with these.
This one has the hard disk. You can hear it seek on startup.
Setup works but it does not boot from the hard drive and just halts when
presented with a system disk on a floppy.
Rod
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> . . .
> You need a monitor (or converter) that supports 25khz. Here's the extent of my own research:
>
> 25khz 640x400 SOG monitors
>
> LCD
> - NEC LCD1510+ (not tested)
>
> - NEC LCD1810 (LA-1831JMW-1)
> Mac + PC -- fair performance, poor scaling.
> HP 300/98543 -- works, but banded background cannot be completely
> faded to black (I got rid of my 1810's for this reason).
>
> - Viewsonic Vp150
> HP300/98543 -- works well, great background, colors only fair.
>
> - Viewsonic VP181
> HP 300/98543 -- not perfect but can be adjusted ok.
> banded background *can* be faded to black.
>
> - J.
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ah, this seems to become difficult...
Thanks for the data and recommendations. I will have a look at low H-freq. monitors on ebay, maybe I have to revert to an old, heavy and large CRT. I see that many Viewsonic TFT monitors start at 24kHz.
I also found
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Gonbes-GBS-8200-CGA-15kHz-EGA-25kHz-Arcade-JAMMA-PCB…
The technical data (http://www.extremehardware.webspace.virginmedia.com/ebay_images/GBS-8200.pdf) says:
CGA / EGA - Auto Scan:
14.5 kHz - 16.5 kHz
23.5 kHz - 25.5 kHz <<<< this may fit the HP card?
3 0.5 kHz - 32.5 kHz
Martin
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> > indeed this machine has a 98204B video board (intended to work with a 35721
> monitor,
> > which I don't have). I have not yet found the specs for its composite signal.
>
> It is normal composite video voltage levels with faster-than-normal horizontal scan rate.
> If you have a frequency counter (or something that can be used as one, then put the 98204B
> text board in the topmost position of the 9817, leaving out the graphics board
> (the machine ill run without it) and take the top casing off the 9817. Take care to avoid the
> live mains and worse on the PSU board, power it up, and check the HS and VS pins of the 6845
> (the only 40 pin IC on the board)
>
> Most, if not all, cheap composite video converters assume US or European TV rates and are
> not going to lock to this thing. If anybody knows of an interface that will work,
> I'd be interested to know about it too (I have a 9817 with the 98204B card, fortunately
> I do have the right montor for it).
>
> -tony
> ------------------------------
Tony,
thank you for your explanations. As I understand, the unusual low horizontal frequency is the main problem.
I saw that the card has a switch to toggle 50/60Hz vertical frequency (EU/US, original setting was at 60 Hz), but this did not help.
I will see whether I can use my oscilloscope to catch the frequencies as I could not find a technical description of the 98204B.
... and I thought today such a simple problem could be easily solved with modern technology...
Martin
On 01/19/2016 03:30 PM, Mike wrote:
> Can someone please help me set this drive up and what should the little switched be set to on the back for drive 2
>
> Sent from my iPhone.
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Can this be use as a 2nd drive if so hoe do zi hook it up the right way?
thank you sll in sdvsnce...
http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/94441/retro-computing
I think this is actually a pretty good idea and StackExchange is a great
platform.
As of right now it needs 11 more people following it (and more questions).
tnx.
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I am not a vax person, I'm posting this for someone else. Could anyone offer
advice for me to relay back to this person (other than reseating boards,
cleaning connectors, or other non-vax-specific stuff)?
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I was hoping you could help me answer a question. I have a Vaxstation 3100
that, when I power it up, fails the test with the following LED readout:
1000 1010
which indicates the failure is in the memory management test. Any
suggestions on further troubleshooting I can do to figure out how to get
this machine booting? My plan is to run OpenBSD on it and see if I can
revive some of the ports for this platform. I'm doing something similar on
my Alphastation 500/400.
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Best,
J
VAXCINATION A "preventive training" provided to potential
users of the VAX system to prevent software
foul-ups other than deliberate.
VAX-RAY A high-energy screening to determine whether a
user is qualified to have a VAX I/O station on
his floor.
VAXWAGEN What everyone jumps on after the VAX is approved
VAXING AND VAXING is the successful use of the VAX during
WAILING the full moon. Wailing is the less successful
alternative during the other lunar phases.
VAXMAS The day the VAX come in.
VAXCILLATE To oscillate between possible ways to administer
VAX training.
VAXCIMILE A German copy of the VAX.
VAXECUTION The denial to a user of future access to the VAX.
NO VAX TO A put-down administered to those withour a dial-up
GRIND line, and hence no acces to the VAX, as in "Infidel!
Let that terminal alone! You have no VAX to grind!"
VAX AND THE SINGLE GIRL A relationship with much potential.
VAXI! VAXI! A cry heard and unheeded by cruising VAX personnel
as they go around the corridors, hailed by frantic
users-to-be who desire a high-tech ride on the VAX.
AVAX A low-flying VAX with radar.
VAXTENUATING The generic excuse used to explain delays in the
CIRCUMSTANCES delivery of the VAX.
VAXCENTUATE To underline the importance of the VAX.
VAXTERMINATION The perennial zapping of mysterious files from the
VAX.
VAXCINE An abbreviation for "I have seen the VAX!"
VEDI, VENI, That victory cry - "I saw, I conquered. The VAX
VAXI came!"
VAXERCISE An early morning workout on the VAX.
VAXUUM A computer room without a VAX. Abhorred by nature.
VAXIMUM Keeping silent to the max about the startup of the
VAX.
VAX POPULI The users.
VAX BUILDUP The result of not using the file delete command
often enough.
VAXACHUSETTS DEC country.
INCOME VAX What one shouts when the VAX is delivered.
VAX-FREE BOND A special relationship with a non-VAX computer on
Wall Street.
THE BLUE VAX World War I medal honoring high-powered computing.
Also (modern): A VAX made by Smurfs.
VAXIMA The height of ecstasy reached while computing on
VAX. Also (archaic): Mother of VAX.
VAXIS What the world of computers rotates on.
GRODY TO THE VAX Like, y'know, the VAX in the valley fer shure!
VAX-CARS What G.M. doesn't make.
VAXICDENT The spilling of coffee on a VAX terminal.
VAXONERATED The honor of DEC.
VAXLE That to which the wheels of the VAX are attached.
VAXIDERMIST One who lives by the dictum "You can take the VAX
and stuff it!"
THE VAX OF Everything you ever wanted to know about the birds
LIFE and the bees (and the bugs in the VAX).
VAX Long-haired northern cousins of the buffalo, used
as beasts of burden in Tibet.
TO VAX ELOQUENT The act of preparing a glossary for the VAX.
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