at the risk of being a smartass, id think that some of the people here
would've appreciated an offer on this list first rather than going to ebay and
then announcing it to us all.. that would have been an even better
opportunity.
In a message dated 11/1/98 4:23:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
gmast(a)polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu writes:
> I think this system will go for a good price. It will sell regardless.
> If this post offends anyone, I apologize but I know some people here
> might want one of these for their collection and this might be a good
> opportunity.
I stumbled on this site a while back and a few on the list may be
interested. Postings of want to buy and sell of "classic" type systems.
I have not had any response from the post I put there several months back -
Looking for DEC equipment but others may have better luck.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rimmer/guest.htm
Dan Burrows
dburrows(a)netpath.net
Hello All,
Just got a number of HP and Dec boards in and a console panel
of a DECDATASYSTEM 570, missing the key and one turnknob
(what's this machine anyway???)
Unfortunately the frame to mount it in a rack is missing. Anybody
have a spare one left over?
There were also 2 boards I cannot place, one is an L0016 board,
the other one is marked 'Unibus Serial Console'. Does this card belong
to the console panel mentioned earlier?
Thanks,
Ed
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In a message dated 11/9/98 8:37:45 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Marty(a)itgonline.com writes:
<< Does your Columbia list it as having been made in Columbia, Maryland?
I believe their early pc's were made in Columbia, Maryland, later they
moved to Florida.
>>
I will look. I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. i will let you know when
I find out.
Paxton
>> Curious what the copyright situation on BASIC (or related
>> products) is? Certainly Gate's hasn't released it into
>> public domain.
>No, and he got pretty upset about people redistributing it without
>authorization. But that was a few years ago; maybe he's mellowed out
>by now. :-)
It may depend on whether he thinks he's out of his "Bitter financial
suffering" phase or not. To quote Calvin N. Moores, BYTE 1976:13 p.22.:
Bill Gates, in his "Open Letter to Hobbyists" mentioned earlier, tells
of his sad experience. According to Bill, he and two associates produced
the Altair BASIC, investing three man years and burning up $40,000
in computer time. It was to be sold on commision through MITS for
use with Altair computers. Gates now finds that many of the "users"
he talks to praise his BASIC very highly, but few of them can admit they
bought the copy they use. He is bitter, and says that the return for his
group was less than $2 an hour for the great amount of time they put
into the programming, debugging, and documentation required to make a
first class package.
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>> Anybody care to hazard guesses at what products are actually being
>> manufactured now, that you'd want to have in your classic computer
>> collection ten years from now?
> Manufactured now? It's not like each year produces collectibles, but here
> are some current and recent collectibles that you'll wish you had bought:
> 4) clear pilot
Huh ? never heared of.
Gruss
Hans
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>
>> Of course few people exploit teletext to its full. It's sent as ASCII
>> data (with in-line attribute characters for setting colours, etc) in the
>> vertical blanking interval. This means that it's possible to connect a
>> teletext decoder chip up to a computer, store/analyse/print the info,
>> etc. But few people have tried that. There was a teletext decoder box for
>> the BBC micro (to tie in the start of this thread), and there were even
>> plans to distribute BASIC programs for that machine on some teletext pages.
Hmm, I have the teletext decoder for the BBC somewhere, but no software
to run it. I expect it's in working order (the ROMs were missing when I
got it, but I managed to create copies from another box).
Interestingly, we used to get teletext sent over the same network that
connected all the computer equipment when I was at university - instead
of logging in to the computer network you could use a standard comms
program / terminal emulator to connect to the teletext system. It got
turned off though whilst I was there - I heard a rumour that it was a
commercial service for which the university were supposed to pay, but
they had been using it for years before they found out! :)
>> To keep this on the topic of the thread, I *am* interested in getting a
>>BBC.
>> I guess I'd need a PAL monitor and a 220-volt, 50-hz power supply to run it
I used to know someone with a US spec BBC; I seem to remember that the
power supply was different (the whole layout was slightly different
inside) but would switch to UK mains rates.
I also think that there was a jumper (or more than one) on the system
board that would at least change scan rates for the video connectors,
but not the modulator. My memory's really fuzzy on this one, I could
probably contact the guy who had the machine if you really need it, but
BBC's were *very* flexible in what they could do and what could be
modified easily.
I missed the original post, but if it was a UK reader and they just
wanted a BBC machine then they'd be better off contacting a few local
schools, who are bound to have a few lurking around unused in cupboards.
cheers
Jules
>
Time for an Electronics for Dummies question...
If I have a center negative power supply (the diagram shows that the
negative is in the center of the connector) does that mean the center of
the connector on the device to be powered should be connected to the
ground plane?
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>I couldn't get a Lisa for under $2000
They're going for that much now? I remember a few years back when
Sun Remarketing was selling them for a few hundred dollars...
> but I could find a D-machine for less than a tenth
>of that.
>Fortunately, I don't care about machines being 'collectable'. I just like
>interesting machines to repair and investigate.
Despite the worries that many people here have of all interesting
computers getting priced into the stratosphere, I think there will
always be interesting and historically significant computers that
will be within easy [financial] reach (or a dumpster dive.)
Tim.
