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by bill＠chipware.com

Marvin wrote: > Doug Yowza wrote: > > > > So, now we know how much an unassembled Altair kit will go for, and we > > know that most people can't tell the difference between an assembled kit > > and an unassembled one. > > Or partially assembled one! I saw the photos and was kind of > wondering what > the story is. Perhaps I missed something in my quick glance, but I didn't > see any boards mentioned, and just some photos of what looked like an > assembled box, and a bunch of parts. I kind of enjoyed the "I've never powered it up" disclaimer at the bottom. Should be sort of obvious for an unassembled kit?

27 years, 8 months

Altair kits??

by altair8800＠hotmail.com

I notice from the pictures of the Altair 8800 kit on eBay that the front panel and power supply have been wired and assembled. The kit I found also has the front panel and power supply wired and assembled. QUESTION - to any of the folks out there who put these kits together originally... Is this the way you received them from MITS? With the front panel and/or the power supply pre-wired and assembled? Thanks, Bob Wood ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

27 years, 8 months

Altair kits??

by cswiger＠wilma.widomaker.com

>QUESTION - to any of the folks out there who >put these kits together originally... >Is this the way you received them from MITS? >With the front panel and/or the power supply >pre-wired and assembled? No. At least not mine on the 'kit a month' plan. The way MITS was it wouldn't suprise me if they did ship out some partially built to fill demand for kit orders, but it wasn't in my case. More trivia: The last 'kit-a-month' installment of $60 got you the CPU chip. By that time generic 8080's were less than that so I just bought an NEC chip elsewhere to save a few $$. Chuck cswiger(a)widomaker.com

27 years, 8 months

A new Altair record price

by altair8800＠hotmail.com

Mark Metzler wrote: >I knew you should have held onto all those Altairs longer, >Bob! Actually I have managed to hold on to more than I have sold, Mark. I had decided to stop listing my Altair stuff on eBay for now because there seemed to be a glut of Altair items going on there. But this is the first whole original 8800 that has been listed since earlier last year when the two were on simultaneously. It will be interesting to see if this selling price causes more to be listed. Bob > >At 10:29 PM 1/6/99 PST, you wrote: >>$6710.00 Wow! >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5282 >2778 >> >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> > >--- Mark Metzler > > VON NEUMANN MACHINES >Online Computer History Bookstore/Museum >http://home.pacbell.net/mmetzler/vnm.html > >______________________________________________________ >Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com >SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - >http://orders.xoom.com/email > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

27 years, 8 months

Computer History

by chrish＠knet.kootenay.net

here is a pdp6 pricelist in .pdf format http://www.vortex.com/comphist.html Chris

27 years, 8 months

A new Altair record price

by mark_metzler＠xoommail.com

I knew you should have held onto all those Altairs longer, Bob! At 10:29 PM 1/6/99 PST, you wrote: >$6710.00 Wow! > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5282 2778 > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --- Mark Metzler VON NEUMANN MACHINES Online Computer History Bookstore/Museum http://home.pacbell.net/mmetzler/vnm.html ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email

27 years, 8 months

A new Altair record price

by gregorym＠cadvision.com

I know the Altair was historically significant, and it's very collectible, but give me a break! I paid less than that for my car. I'm hoping the fix was somehow in on this auction, in an attempt to drive collectible prices up - otherwise, I'll have to give up all hope of ever owning any pre-1980 computers that I don't already have. If this is truly where the market is going, most people on this list might be able to retire on the Riviera after all! :v) Mark. At 10:29 PM 1/6/99 PST, you wrote: >$6710.00 Wow! > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=52822778 > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >

27 years, 8 months

Year End Clearance

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

I have decided it is time to clean out some of the computer stuff. Following is a list of computers and components that are available. Basically, except for the last group of DEC uVax cards & where noted elsewhere, everything is free to those who come and pick up the items. I basically don't want to get involved with the shipping of any large items, such as the CPU boxes or monitors. If you just have to have some component that I can ship in a moderate sized box, then all I ask is a little something to cover my time and shipping. I live just south of Terre Haute, IN, USA. If your interested in anything, send me an email. I would like to apologize for the length of this list. I did not realize how much stuff there was 'til I put it in a list. I decided for now to hold off on the Intel/PC related stuff. Mike Thompson ---------------------------------------- Convergent Technologies Model CR-5100-A31 Some kind of Unix box Contains: 68000 CPU board with 64K of 8Kx8 and parallel port Memory expansion board with 2M of 256Kx1 20 channnel RS232 board with 20 9 pin D connectors Micropolis 1325 70mb MFM hard drive Also have a spare 10 channnel RS232 board with 10 9 pin D connectors I am told that this is a working machine and was being used as a print server. ---------------------------------------- Wang components The following are from a Wang machine, model is unknown PM007 - PC Color Emulator board, has 15 pin D connector labeled 'Input' and 9 pin D connector labeled 'Analog RGB'. Board measures 8x12. PM009 - Medium Resolution Color Graphics board, has 8 pin DIN connector labeled 'Analog RGB' & 6 pin modular connect labeled 'Local Keyboard' Board measures 8X12 Micropolis 1325 70mb MFM hard drive. Condition of these items is unknown. ---------------------------------------- Motorola Model VME/10 System Contains: 1 ea MVME400 board 1 ea MVME201 boards Micropolis 1304 43mb hard drive, may be bad. Also have a monitor, but no video cable. Believe the keyboard is around here somewhere. Also have the following loose VME bus cards: VME Module 01-W3471, circa 1987 contains: 68020, 68851, 4mb of 1Mx1; front panel has leds for Fail, Halt, Run, Scon, push switches for Abort & Reset, and a 25 pin D connector. Have 2 of these. MVME147SC-1. circa 1990 CPU with around 8mb of RAM MVME931-1 This is a wire wrap prototyping board The next card is for the VME bus but is labeled Jupiter Technologies. I suspect it came from a UGC box. It contains a 68000 and around 2mb of RAM, it is marked as being an 'IOP' card. The last 2 cards were custom made by a local company and are probably of no use to anybody. Listed here to more or less keep track. Condition of all this is unknown. ---------------------------------------- IBM Model 5182 Personal Computer Color Printer Parallel Interface, dot matrix 132 column This works, but needs a new ribbon ---------------------------------------- Hewlett Packard Model 2631G 132 column dot matrix printer This has a 24 pin connector similar to the 36 pin Centronics connector. Does anybody know the interface on this one? ---------------------------------------- Micropolis Model 1325 70mb hard drive This is a loose one, and condition is unknown ---------------------------------------- DEC MicroVax 2000 I have the case, boards and power supply. The RD54 was snatched up by a subscriber just recently. Also have a spare MS400 2mb board and this is unused still in original box. ---------------------------------------- DEC DS200 Terminal Server - 4ea DELNI - at least 6 ea ---------------------------------------- Apple Macintosh II I have 4 machines, 3 are working, one is dead. Of the working: 2 have 1 floppy drive, 1 has 2 floppy drives they all have 40mb hard drives. 2 have Viking video cards with a Viking Monoterm monitor (are a little dim) 1 has an Apple video card with a Apple color monitor Have keyboards and mice for all three. Have complete (I think) manuals and disks for each machine. One machine has Interleaf loaded on it. I have a couple spare video cards & an external 20mb drive. I have 1 set of Interleaf manuals and 2 sets of disks. I believe the loaded with version 6 of the OS. I would like to get a little something for these. I might be convinced to ship components, but do not want to ship anything big, especially the monitors. ---------------------------------------- IBM RT Model 135, Type 6150. It has a 5 1/4 floppy, and two hard drives (100MB & 300MB), plus the usual video and a network card. The monitor is a Model/Type 5081-19, 19" color with RGB inputs. I have a fairly complete set of manuals and disks for the machine. The machine was working and is loaded with AIX 2.x. I say was, as it was sitting in the garage when a tree was blown over and crashed through the garage roof almost exactly where the machine was. The only damage was from water, mostly running down through the monitor. The CPU had some stuff on top of it and I doubt that much if any water got into it. I have not tested it since then and the insurance company has settled on it. If you want to come pick it up, fine. I am willing to pull components out of this and ship them. I hate to see things like the network card go to waste. All I ask is a little something for my time and trouble. ---------------------------------------- DEC The following cards were pulled from uVax II's and all machines were working at the time they were removed from service. Since I am asking a little for any card, I will guarantee them in that I will replace (where possbile) or refund. If your interested in multiple cards, let me know, I can probably work out a deal. KA630-AA / M7606 - CPU Module, MicroVax II, 4 ea $15 MS630-BB / M7608 - 4 MB Memory Module, 1 ea $10 KDA50-Q / M7164 & M7165 - SDI Disk Interface, 1 set $20 DQ256 (Dilog) - SDI Interface, 1 ea $10 TSV05 / M7196 - Tape Controller, 1 ea $10 TQK70-SA / M7559 - TK70 Tape Controller, 1 ea $10 DELNA / M7513 - Expander Module, connects ext. RD50/RX50 to controller, 3 ea $5 TQK50 / M7546 - TK50 Tape Interface, 2 ea $10 DHV11 / M3104 - 8 Line Async Multiplexer (quad height card), 1 ea $10 DZQ11 / M3106 - 4 Line Async Multiplexer (dual height card), 2 ea $10 M9404 / M9505 - Cable Connector, 3 sets of cards plus some cables, $5 END OF LIST --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------

27 years, 8 months

T1200 Laptop network card - was Re: 53rd state was Re: Y2K

by netcafe＠pirie.mtx.net.au

-----Original Message----- From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, 7 January 1999 12:30 Subject: 53rd state was Re: Y2K > Naw, you're not even close to being the 53rd state! We're going after >Puerto Rico right now, the ten Canadian provinces are next, then Mexico. >You guys are way down the list. It must be sad to realize that you follow >even Mexico! > > Sorry, couldn't resist! :-) There's a line there, ah what the heck. Sad is not the word, relieved perhaps! :^) I couldn't resist either. Mind you, looking at TV here, or driving around any medium sized city, and seeing the Kentucky Fried Chicken, McDonalds and Hungry Jacks (=Burger King) outlets, and seeing all the kids roaming around in those silly baggy shorts with their baseball caps on backwards, it's getting hard to tell the difference. At least we still speak real English, despite the school systems apparent inability to teach kids to write and spell in it......... Ahem, to get back on topic, I have a Circa 1989 Toshiba T1200 laptop that has a Puredata 8023 (assume Ethernet) card in the expansion slot. There is nothing for this on the Puredata website, and my email to their support on 30/12/98 has not been responded too (yet). The card has an etch that reads PDT8023 [R] [C] 1989 Pure Data Made in Canada 0060012002 The T in the ident suggests a special (Toshiba?) build. The card has a single BNC socket and a switch marked 0 and 1, which is probably a power on/off function. There are three jumpers marked E1 E2 and E3. E2 has a shorting bridge on it. There is a bar coded sticker on the component side. The sticker is damaged, looks like 002x1945 (digit marked by x is unreadable, possibly a 6 or an 8) Several of the chips on the board have a date and a hex number on a paper sticker on them. Listed below. March 1990 800020000 March 1991 800019100 March 1991 800019702 March 1991 800019801 March 1991 800019900 I'm after some Netware drivers for it. (This is an XT laptop) I've tried the NE1000 drivers to no avail. I'm assuming it uses the IRQ (3) that is reserved for the internal modem. Any help appreciated. Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Room Internet Cafe Port Pirie South Australia. netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au

27 years, 8 months

FW: 11/73 available

by kyrrin＠my-dejanews.com

Found on Usenet. Anyone near the U. of Iowa want to talk to this guy? It sounds kind of beat up, but might make a good parts box. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:17:30 -0600, in vmsnet.pdp-11 you wrote: >>From: Brian Deitte <bdeitte(a)blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> >>Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 >>Subject: Clueless questions about a for sale PDP 11/73 >>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:17:30 -0600 >>Organization: The University of Iowa >>Lines: 18 >>Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.990106150728.112902A-100000(a)black.weeg.uiowa.edu> >>NNTP-Posting-Host: black.weeg.uiowa.edu >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >>X-Sender: bdeitte(a)black.weeg.uiowa.edu >>Path: news1.jps.net!news.pbi.net!151.164.30.35!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!netnews.com!news-feed.fnsi.net!cyclone.i1.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.uiowa.edu!black.weeg.uiowa.edu!bdeitte >>Xref: news1.jps.net vmsnet.pdp-11:803 >> >>Hello. I've been given a PDP 11/73 that was going to be thrown away. >>I've searched for quite a few hours on the Web for resellers, and all I >>could find was agora and auction-it.net. Any advice on a price range or >>where to look for someone who wants one is appreciated. >> >>If you've read this far, I assume you're interested in some way, so here's >>some extra information: >>According to a a picture I saw somewhere, its a BA23 standing tower. >>I found the following cards: M3106(2), M8017AA, M7546, M7555. >>The front has a TK50 and a Micropolis "Disk Memory Unit" with a S/N >>7074231037. >>Some of pins on back are broken, and the power cord has been snipped, but >>supposedly it worked at its former residence, although I don't even know >>how to test it. >> >>Feel free to send by email if you feel this is irrelevant to this >>newsgroup. Thanks, Brian. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com "...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."

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