Just so everyone knows,
Hayes is gone. They closed down for good yesterday.
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Max Eskin | kurtkilgor(a)bigfoot.com | AOL: kurtkilgor
Can anyone help me with this issue?
When I download my mail in Linux, the mail has a line in the header
called 'X-Status:' followed by a blank line. I have found that if I get
rid of this and the blank line, pine properly detects the Subject: and
From: of the letter. However, if I leave it in, it doesn't. I wrote a very
inefficient shell script to get rid of these lines, using a loop with grep
and sed. Does anyone know a better way?
Thanks.
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Max Eskin | kurtkilgor(a)bigfoot.com | AOL: kurtkilgor
<be happy to send you a box of assorted unreliable S-100 DRAM boards that
<will keep you busy well into your retirement.
A good example! Also their very design sloppyness may be significant as
some were "of the time".
<Maybe that's the primary philosophical divergence here: I consider few
<obsolete machines to be inherently interesting, when there are so many
<others that are merely _thought_ to be obsolete but are still utterly
<useful given a current, robust OS.
Or some already have a robust OS that works even if it's not the current
vogue.
Allison
the list (which is supposed to be very single-minded) contains a number of
<people who actually are single-minded (Tony Duell, Allison Parent, Megan
<Gantry, Pete Turnbull, maybe others). This is good! Don't misunderstand
<me. It's the way it's supposed to be.
I resent that! I go off topic when the mood or whatever suits, like now. ;)
Allison
Well, I just got done winching the CDC 9766 drive down off my
truck, and boy are my arms tired...
The system is CPU, 32M of ram, 16 I/O ports, a Century 300M 10"
drive, a Seagate Sabre attached to a SCSI PORT!! (yay!) a Kennedy
9100 in Prime livery, and the usual load of cables and Stuff.
Also: I got the OS (PrimeOS 7.0 rev 20.2.8), a bunch of other
tapes, including a 7" reel marked 'games'. and several boxes of
docs and manuals. I have no idea how to tell what overall 'model'
the system is.. if the Primes went by models, like DEC PDP11, etc.
I was not all that interested in this machine, since I am *trying*
to stick to DEC and only DEC, but now that it's here I think it
might be fun to play with.
Oh, yeah, it has a Decwriter IV for a console... even came with
several boxes of spare ribbons.
It was heading for the dumpster.. I *had* to save it. The machine
was running when taken out of service and was de-commissioned by the
person who bought and operated it, so every thing was marked and
stored properly.
Cool... **another** project. ;}
And, other than the Seagate drive ('91), it's On Topic.
Cheers
John
Hi Doug and all,
Sorry, I only know the answer to this one:
At 03:48 PM 1/9/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Hey, any industrial controller collectors out there? I didn't think so.
>There are three fans inside the box, but it's sealed. I always thought
>that fans worked by exchanging hot air for cooler air. What good are
>fans inside a sealed box?
>
The black case itself is the heatsink. The fans only couple the heat sources
to the inside of the case. Sounds pretty neat.
-Dave
> But anyway, it *CAN'T* be much of a challange, as X.25 is that old
> (1), and, perhaps more imporantly, the Iraqi's aren't too bright when
> it comes to computer technology.
Who says? It's when you _don't_ have a lot of technology when you learn to
use what you _do_ have. Like how much more one can learn from an Apple ][
than from a Pentium system. A lot of Russian immigrants to the USA are much
better programmers, sysadmins, etc. than americans, because when they were
in Russia, they used old, well designed, systems intended for people who
knew what they were doing. They are likely to know how to make a 10K
program do the work of a 2M program which is what an american would likely
write (no offense intened). Plus, who knows? Maybe they modified the
protocol...
On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote:
> Incidentally, I find the diversity on this list a good thing. Hearing
> about machines that I don't know about, or that I thought 'those are a
> poor design' (or worse) about is very interesting to me. So keep on
> talking about them....
I'm actually very surprised and disappointed by this newfound fascism.
We're _collectors_ or _hobbyists_ who are dealing with classic computers,
as well as hanging out on this list for _fun_. The people who shut others
up whenever we go mildly off topic, or when a machine they don't like is
brought up. Maybe there should be a contract for list subscribers. If you
were seeing people discussing something face to face at a party or
club meeting or conference that you didn't like, would you tell them to
shut up? I hope not, though the internet attracts socially inept
creatures. I expect the same level of politeness on the internet, in a
civilized discussion which I define this to be. I will not allow
technology to take humanity away from people, to the extent that I can.
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Max Eskin | kurtkilgor(a)bigfoot.com | AOL: kurtkilgor
On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 dpeschel(a)u.washington.edu wrote:
> became. If they had just ripped off a better OS, that might have been nice
> as well. Something with long file names, or multitasking, or whatever.
> And OSs of the time DID have long file names. I don't know about
> multitasking (maybe OS/9 or FLEX were around when DOS was born?).
Interestingly, there were a number of attempts over the years to make a
better OS than DOS. An example is TSX-Lite, a multitasking, 32-bit version
of DOS that was shareware last time I looked. It had the right ideas but
worked very poorly. Caldera DR-DOS supposedly has multitasking but it
hardly works. OS/2 is very resource-intensive, worse than Windows 95.
Which makes me wonder; maybe something good could have been done before
Linux came about, but everyone was too lazy?
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Max Eskin | kurtkilgor(a)bigfoot.com | AOL: kurtkilgor
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