Hi Gang:
Time to clear out some stuff. I have the following item available for
trade, or potential sale:
A Motorola "EXORcisor" 6800 development system, from the mid 1970s. Dual
8" floppies, and SOROC dumb terminal. Full documentation, software,
several development boards. This outfit was used to develop specialized
devices around the Motorola 6800 CPU. The terminal doesn't work and I
haven't had time to figure out why. The other items were operational about
5 years ago.
I'm looking for anything pdp-8 or pdp-11 related. Peripherals such as a
DECtape drive or paper tape devices, heck even a card reader, would be
nice. Even some documentation, DEC handbooks etc. A real longshot would
be anything related to the IBM 1620, docs, software.
If the trading doesn't work out then I would sell the EXORcisor system for
a reasonable best offer (read that as "pretty cheap").
Please contact me eithor on the list or via email. I'm located in
Vancouver, BC.
Kevin
--
Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD
mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca
> Someone mentioned Budget... I'm going to contact them...
Well, I always went to www.budget.com to make reservations with them,
but I see that now that I'm 3000 miles away from BC that particular
web site doesn't do me a lot of good!
It looks like www.budgetrentacar.com is the place most folks want
to start at. According to the web site at least some of the 15'
and 26' trucks have liftgates; in my experience the availability of
26-footers with liftgates is far superior to 15-footers.
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Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
>be anything related to the IBM 1620, docs, software.
Just so happens I have some IBM 1620 docs, including a
programming (SPS) manual... I haven't done so yet, but
I have promised to make a copy for the people doing the
1620 renovation at the Computer Museum at Moffett Field
in California...
I could probably make a second set if you are interested...
contact me off-list...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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>
>Which means what I really want to know is how many vehicles currently on
>the market can handle at least a single H960?
>
My old 1/2 ton Chevy pickup has had in it a H960 (SA800 - 8 RA90's) 860 lbs
and 3 HSC50's, a star coupler, 2 TU80's all at once. I never said I was
legal weight but it took it. Yes I did avoid the scales. I found out how
heavy the SA800 was when I went to unload it. I had to half gut it to roll
it off the truck. Then I looked at the manual to find out it is 860 some
pounds. What a difference it was unloading it by myself than loading it
with a forklift. Initially I was going to put the second SA800 on the same
load but the first squatted the truck enough.
What model are the Diablo drives? I have some Diablo manuals from those
days and did some work on them back then. If they are Diablo 31 or 33's I
should still have the books to refresh the fading memory on locking the
heads etc.
I would check with some of the truck rental companies about the CDL
requirements in MA. Federal requirements are anything licensed over 26,000
lbs. or anything with air brakes require a CDL. I have had no problem
renting trucks with lift gates in any state so far.
One of the companies I have used and had very good luck with (very new
equipment and gentle suspension) is Idealease. All of their trucks have
lift gates that tuck under the truck. (important when dock loading) and
nice E channels for heavy duty straps. They also have wood floors which is
good for nailing pieces of 2x4's into at the base of racks and pieces that
you can't strap down. Some of their locations will not do one way rentals
however.
Dan
Well, the day has come... next weekend is when I've arranged to go
and get the pdp-8s and the pdp-11/34 that I've been making room for
at home...
In preparation of the move, I just wanted to ask the list for some
advice on how to transport so as to have no (or minimum) risk of
damage.
The machines are currently in two tall (6') and one medium (about 4')
racks. There is a minimum of cabling between the racks, so separating
them should not be a problem. I'm planning on marking any such cables
so they can be restored.
Obviously, the RL disks will have heads locked down. The other disks
are Diablo (RK05 equivalents), so how do I lock those down?
Since I don't have a class two license, I can't get a truck with a
lift gate, so I was planning on unloaded all the boxes from the racks
(CPU, disks, anything else) and placing them on shipping pads, the
disks with foam pads underneath. I was planning on tipping the racks
over onto dollies to be wheeled up the ramp into the truck where they
would travel on their sides, on mats.
One thing I learned from boating -- If something can possibly end up on
the deck en route, *put it there* before casting off...
Also, in order to make some room, I'm getting rid of a few things
and wanted to offer them to people on the list. What I have to get
rid of are two 11/05 chassis, with power supplies, unknown state (I
got them from someone else in that state), and one 11/10 chassis,
also in unknown state. They are pretty heavy, so I'm not up to
lugging them somewhere for shipment. Also, since they are unknown
state, it might be best for someone local to Framingham, Mass to
pick them up if interested.
Finally, if anyone is interested in helping in the move to experience
the procedure of moving old iron (hows that for a "fence-painting
come-on"?), please contact me off-list...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
I have several Apple II e in various condition. A few missing keytops etc.
Also have the external floppy drives both styles. Need the room so I'd like
to sell them for $5.00 each plus any shipping. I will be taking them to TRW
on the 27th. Space E-11. I also have 2 McDonald Douglas terminals. Don't
know anything about them execpt the were working. Same price $5 each.
> So is the H960 the rack that is about 4 feet high?
No, the H960 is a bit over 6 feet high. You're probably
thinking about the H9640/H9642 style boxes, which are about
45" high. There were numerous variations in slightly different
widths and depths to handle special cases (i.e. the 3-RA80
configuration, the TU80/RA80 configuration, etc.)
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
Megan -
Depending on how many trips you're willing to make, a station wagon can do
the trick quite nicely. I used my Taurus wagon
DECwreck a couple of years ago to move four of the 6' racks containing a
pair of PDP-11/45s without a lot of trouble (other than
weight.) The fit was perfect for one rack per trip and the rack had nowhere
to go.
-- Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: mbg(a)world.std.com [SMTP:mbg@world.std.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 1999 10:36 AM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Planning for an equipment move...
Well, the day has come... next weekend is when I've arranged to go
and get the pdp-8s and the pdp-11/34 that I've been making room for
at home...
In preparation of the move, I just wanted to ask the list for some
advice on how to transport so as to have no (or minimum) risk of
damage.
The machines are currently in two tall (6') and one medium (about
4')
racks. There is a minimum of cabling between the racks, so
separating
them should not be a problem. I'm planning on marking any such
cables
so they can be restored.
Obviously, the RL disks will have heads locked down. The other
disks
are Diablo (RK05 equivalents), so how do I lock those down?
Since I don't have a class two license, I can't get a truck with a
lift gate, so I was planning on unloaded all the boxes from the
racks
(CPU, disks, anything else) and placing them on shipping pads, the
disks with foam pads underneath. I was planning on tipping the
racks
over onto dollies to be wheeled up the ramp into the truck where
they
would travel on their sides, on mats.
One thing I learned from boating -- If something can possibly end up
on
the deck en route, *put it there* before casting off...
Also, in order to make some room, I'm getting rid of a few things
and wanted to offer them to people on the list. What I have to get
rid of are two 11/05 chassis, with power supplies, unknown state (I
got them from someone else in that state), and one 11/10 chassis,
also in unknown state. They are pretty heavy, so I'm not up to
lugging them somewhere for shipment. Also, since they are unknown
state, it might be best for someone local to Framingham, Mass to
pick them up if interested.
Finally, if anyone is interested in helping in the move to
experience
the procedure of moving old iron (hows that for a "fence-painting
come-on"?), please contact me off-list...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work):
gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home):
mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of
'!' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL:
http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some
assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg
|
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Back in November, Tony Dellett posted to this list a message offering
a bunch of items for sale. A copy is attached below.
Would anyone who purchased items from Tony please send me private email?
Thanks!
Eric
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Subject: Spring Cleaning
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I know it's not spring but it is time for me to thin out my collection. I'm
offering these for sale here first before sending them off to ebay.
Email me with offers to anthony.dellett(a)staples.com. I dont get time to
check the list much so posing a reply there will get you nowhere.
Atari 800 (not working, parts?)
Atari 1050 Disk Drive (two of them)
Commodore 64 (complete in box, I have two like this)
Commodore 1541 Disk Drive (2 in box, one works, one doesn't)
Commodore 1541 II Disk Drive (complete in box)
Commodore 128 (complete in box)
Commodore 1571 Disk Drive (complete in box)
Compupro S-100 Enclosure (motherboard and PS only, no cards)
IMSAI 8080 W/8080 Processor Card, SIO4 (Godbout w/docs), RAM64 (Godbout
w/docs), PIO8 (IMSAI)
Kaypro I (incl. boot disk)
Kaypro II (incl. boot disk)
Kaypro IV (incl. boot disk)
NorthStar Horizon (not working)
NorthStar Advantage (works completely, with boot disk)
Osborne I (not working)
Osborne Executive (incl. boot disk)
Processor Technology SOL w/SOLOS personality module
Sanyo CP/M System (with software)
TI-99/4A Computer (beige model, in box)
TRS-80 Model III (with some software)
8" DS/DD Floppy Drive (in wooden enclosure) and Controller (Godbout w/docs)
8" SS/SD Floppy Drive (no enclosure)
8" SS/SD Dual Drive Subsystem (ICOM)
8" Hard Disk Drive in enclosure w/controller (Fujitsu Hard Drive, Godbout
Controller w/docs)
I also have some random Commodore stuff that I cant remember (modem,
paddles, trackball, etc...) I can take a closer look if anyone is
interested.
A word of warning... I'd like to sell these things to someone on the list
but I'll only accept "reasonable" offers.
Tony
>> Sounds like a fine plan. Note that many medium-sized station wagons
>> will hold a single H960, too.
>And a friend has an SUV that holds *two* H960s. :-)
A true full-size station wagon (like a 1976 Pontiac Grand Safari) will
barely hold two H960's between the wheel wells. But I doubt that any wagons
this size have been made for decades. I still occasionally see
newish Buick Roadmaster wagons, but I don't think these are big
enough to fit two racks in.
There are companies out there that customize Roadmaster wagons into
hearses; some of these might have enough space inside for two H960's- I've
never been in one, so I wouldn't know for sure!
For smallish moves like the one Megan is undertaking, I think a
trailer behind a car is a fine way to go. Really fragile stuff
like drives and disk packs can ride up front where it's climate
controlled, and most trailers have beds low enough that tipping
racks in is a complete non-issue. This is how I got my 11/70
home, and it was in a dual-wide high-boy (*not* tipped!)
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
