I remember company using varian... v series.. minI to drive display was prototype in az..... why varian? There were mivso in the 80s. And this was NOT early 80s
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From: Brad H <vintagecomputer at bettercomputing.net>
Date: 8/1/16 13:17 (GMT-07:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Mall directory computers
???
It wasn't those two.. I remember Harvard Graphics. ?It had a friendlier name than that.. Direct something? ?Darn. ?Gotta find it now.
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From: ethan at 757.org
Date: 2016-08-01? 12:49 PM? (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Mall directory computers
>You know.. come to think of it.. it might have been something like this
>software I used to play with obsessively as a kid. ?My Dad had it for
>our PC. ?I completely forgrt the name. ?It was a CGA graphics
>proto-Powerpoint kind of deal. ?You could draw pictures, graphs etc..
>and it also had clip art. ?You could do fade ins and outs and other effects.
>?I think we had it later on.. 85 or after. ?But the colors and way it
>drew graphics was similar. ?And I think you could hotkey it to go to
>specific 'slides'. ?The mall computer just had a series of buttons
>alongside the screen from what I remember. ?Could have been rigged up to
>replicate certain keys. ? Wish I could remember the program name..
There was GRASP / GRASPRT? You could author all sorts of stuff in it.
There was presentation software called Harvard Graphics I think.
--
Ethan O'Toole
It wasn't those two.. I remember Harvard Graphics. ?It had a friendlier name than that.. Direct something? ?Darn. ?Gotta find it now.
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From: ethan at 757.org
Date: 2016-08-01 12:49 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Mall directory computers
>You know.. come to think of it.. it might have been something like this
>software I used to play with obsessively as a kid. ?My Dad had it for
>our PC. ?I completely forgrt the name. ?It was a CGA graphics
>proto-Powerpoint kind of deal. ?You could draw pictures, graphs etc..
>and it also had clip art. ?You could do fade ins and outs and other effects.
>?I think we had it later on.. 85 or after. ?But the colors and way it
>drew graphics was similar. ?And I think you could hotkey it to go to
>specific 'slides'. ?The mall computer just had a series of buttons
>alongside the screen from what I remember. ?Could have been rigged up to
>replicate certain keys. ? Wish I could remember the program name..
There was GRASP / GRASPRT? You could author all sorts of stuff in it.
There was presentation software called Harvard Graphics I think.
--
Ethan O'Toole
You know.. come to think of it.. it might have been something like this software I used to play with obsessively as a kid. ?My Dad had it for our PC. ?I completely forgrt the name. ?It was a CGA graphics proto-Powerpoint kind of deal. ?You could draw pictures, graphs etc.. and it also had clip art. ?You could do fade ins and outs and other effects. ?I think we had it later on.. 85 or after. ?But the colors and way it drew graphics was similar. ?And I think you could hotkey it to go to specific 'slides'. ?The mall computer just had a series of buttons alongside the screen from what I remember. ?Could have been rigged up to replicate certain keys. ?
Wish I could remember the program name..
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From: Brad H <vintagecomputer at bettercomputing.net>
Date: 2016-08-01 12:08 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Mall directory computers
???
I've been searching the dim recesses of my mind trying to remember the one at Oakville. ?As I recalled the graphics output was quite slow.. it'd draw shapes individually and then fill in. ?And the color was not great. ?Must have been a CGA PC or some derivative. ?This would have been around 1982-1983. ?I just remember being fascinated as a kid pushing buttons and having stores and locations of things show up. ?For early 1980s it was a pretty cool idea vs the big directory board you had to look all over.
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From: Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com>
Date: 2016-08-01? 11:22 AM? (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Mall directory computers
you should certainly open it up and remove the battery. I would guess the
add on shell is a power supply, video modulator of some kind, and possibly
a hard drive controller.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Kevin Parker <trash80 at internode.on.net>
wrote:
> I'm not exactly sure - it was one of those things that someone gave me and
> I put it away - my policy is grab first and ask questions later so it
> doesn't become landfill.
>
> I have tried to research this based on info from another reply but no joy.
>
> I might open it up and see if there are any clues inside.
>
> My understanding was that it was connected to a large flat panel monitor
> and just used for displaying advertisements and specials etc. It has a
> floppy disk "jammed" in the floppy drive which won't come out - not sure
> why.
>
>
>
> Kevin Parker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> drlegendre .
> Sent: Monday, 1 August 2016 09:41
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <
> cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Mall directory computers
>
> It's not +just+ an A500. What's the extra hardware piggybacked on the A500
> case?
>
> Looks to have a set of six RCA (F) type jacks on it. Is this for
> connection of a touchscreen display?
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 2:43 AM, Kevin Parker <trash80 at internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the clarity and the extra info? - as I said I haven?t
> > opened it or fired it up much less had a good look at it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin Parker
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ian
> > Finder
> > Sent: Sunday, 31 July 2016 17:28
> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <
> > cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> > Subject: Re: Mall directory computers
> >
> > That is certainly not a C= 64 as the title in your link suggests but
> > rather an Amiga 500.
> >
> > These were quite popular for "video billboard" sort of purposes- I
> > imagine they had it running SCALAMultimedia or a similar authoring
> environment.
> >
> > My local high school district channel ran on a similar setup for many
> > years. I recall seeing it stuck on the Amiga Workbench one day...
> >
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2016, Kevin Parker <trash80 at internode.on.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Just spotted this Brad clearing up email after a 4 week break. I
> > > can't answer your question but it reminded me of something that
> > > other list users may be able to help with or it might just be of
> interest.
> > >
> > > Quite some time ago a friend of mine bought a travel agent in a
> > > shopping mall, did a refit of the shop and then later went bust.
> > > Fortunately before the refit and going bust he gave me his old shop
> > > display which was run on a modified Commodore.
> > >
> > > I haven't opened it up or powered it up but if anyone knows what
> > > this is I'd be grateful. I've posted some photos:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://koken.advancedimaging.com.au/index.php?/albums/shop-mall-comm
> > > od
> > > ore-64/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kevin Parker
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org <javascript:;>]
> > > On Behalf Of Brad H
> > > Sent: Thursday, 14 July 2016 12:25
> > > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' <
> > > cctalk at classiccmp.org <javascript:;>>
> > > Subject: Mall directory computers
> > >
> > > Been wondering about this for a while.?? Just one of those odd
> childhood
> > > memories.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > When I was a kid growing up in Oakville, Ontario, I remember
> > > Oakville Mall getting one of those very early mall directory computers.
> > > This would have been like, 1982-84, somewhere thereabouts.? From
> > > what I remember, they had kind of CGA-sh graphics and a chiclet
> 'keyboard'
> > > you used to browse the directory.? I'm wondering, were they just
> > > PCs, most likely?? Or some kind of custom job?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >??? Ian Finder
> >??? (206) 395-MIPS
> >??? ian.finder at gmail.com
> >
> >
>
>
--
?? Ian Finder
?? (206) 395-MIPS
?? ian.finder at gmail.com
I had thought of locating original MIKBUG roms but can't tell for sure if it would work. ?The system has four EROM sockets and they are all occupied.. first two by this WEEBUG thing.
Finding SWTPC ROMs would be difficult. ?I am getting an original 6800 machine next week but I'm loathe to mess with it too much.
>From what I've read MSI were one of the more popular ss50 systems. ?But yeah.. next to nothing out there about them.
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From: william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
Date: 2016-08-01 11:57 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Midwest Scientific Instruments 6800
COSAM sells new reproductions for SWTPc btw.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 2:57 PM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Christian Liendo <cliendo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Shout right back! I have one but I haven't really played with it.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Brad H
>> <vintagecomputer at bettercomputing.net> wrote:
>> > Just thought I'd send out another shout out to anyone who might have
>> one of these or is familiar with them.
>>
>
>
> I would think you could put a SWTPc ROM board in there, right?? Just use
> mikibug.? I thought the cards were interchangable, or am I not thinking of
> the right thing?
>
> --
> @ BillDeg:
> Web: vintagecomputer.net
> Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg>
> Youtube: @billdeg <https://www.youtube.com/user/billdeg>
> Unauthorized Bio <http://www.vintagecomputer.net/readme.cfm>
>
>
>
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Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg>
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I've been searching the dim recesses of my mind trying to remember the one at Oakville. ?As I recalled the graphics output was quite slow.. it'd draw shapes individually and then fill in. ?And the color was not great. ?Must have been a CGA PC or some derivative. ?This would have been around 1982-1983. ?I just remember being fascinated as a kid pushing buttons and having stores and locations of things show up. ?For early 1980s it was a pretty cool idea vs the big directory board you had to look all over.
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From: Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com>
Date: 2016-08-01 11:22 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Mall directory computers
you should certainly open it up and remove the battery. I would guess the
add on shell is a power supply, video modulator of some kind, and possibly
a hard drive controller.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Kevin Parker <trash80 at internode.on.net>
wrote:
> I'm not exactly sure - it was one of those things that someone gave me and
> I put it away - my policy is grab first and ask questions later so it
> doesn't become landfill.
>
> I have tried to research this based on info from another reply but no joy.
>
> I might open it up and see if there are any clues inside.
>
> My understanding was that it was connected to a large flat panel monitor
> and just used for displaying advertisements and specials etc. It has a
> floppy disk "jammed" in the floppy drive which won't come out - not sure
> why.
>
>
>
> Kevin Parker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> drlegendre .
> Sent: Monday, 1 August 2016 09:41
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <
> cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Mall directory computers
>
> It's not +just+ an A500. What's the extra hardware piggybacked on the A500
> case?
>
> Looks to have a set of six RCA (F) type jacks on it. Is this for
> connection of a touchscreen display?
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 2:43 AM, Kevin Parker <trash80 at internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the clarity and the extra info? - as I said I haven?t
> > opened it or fired it up much less had a good look at it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin Parker
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ian
> > Finder
> > Sent: Sunday, 31 July 2016 17:28
> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <
> > cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> > Subject: Re: Mall directory computers
> >
> > That is certainly not a C= 64 as the title in your link suggests but
> > rather an Amiga 500.
> >
> > These were quite popular for "video billboard" sort of purposes- I
> > imagine they had it running SCALAMultimedia or a similar authoring
> environment.
> >
> > My local high school district channel ran on a similar setup for many
> > years. I recall seeing it stuck on the Amiga Workbench one day...
> >
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2016, Kevin Parker <trash80 at internode.on.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Just spotted this Brad clearing up email after a 4 week break. I
> > > can't answer your question but it reminded me of something that
> > > other list users may be able to help with or it might just be of
> interest.
> > >
> > > Quite some time ago a friend of mine bought a travel agent in a
> > > shopping mall, did a refit of the shop and then later went bust.
> > > Fortunately before the refit and going bust he gave me his old shop
> > > display which was run on a modified Commodore.
> > >
> > > I haven't opened it up or powered it up but if anyone knows what
> > > this is I'd be grateful. I've posted some photos:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://koken.advancedimaging.com.au/index.php?/albums/shop-mall-comm
> > > od
> > > ore-64/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kevin Parker
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org <javascript:;>]
> > > On Behalf Of Brad H
> > > Sent: Thursday, 14 July 2016 12:25
> > > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' <
> > > cctalk at classiccmp.org <javascript:;>>
> > > Subject: Mall directory computers
> > >
> > > Been wondering about this for a while.?? Just one of those odd
> childhood
> > > memories.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > When I was a kid growing up in Oakville, Ontario, I remember
> > > Oakville Mall getting one of those very early mall directory computers.
> > > This would have been like, 1982-84, somewhere thereabouts.? From
> > > what I remember, they had kind of CGA-sh graphics and a chiclet
> 'keyboard'
> > > you used to browse the directory.? I'm wondering, were they just
> > > PCs, most likely?? Or some kind of custom job?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >??? Ian Finder
> >??? (206) 395-MIPS
> >??? ian.finder at gmail.com
> >
> >
>
>
--
?? Ian Finder
?? (206) 395-MIPS
?? ian.finder at gmail.com
Since I acquired a Coco Orchestra 90 unit awhile back, and I am trying
to find the source of some humming in my system when the Orch 90 unit is
operational, I looked at the schematic:
http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Manuals/Hardware/Orchest…
(page 109 of the PDF)
I understand the ROM, the resistor ladders, and the latches, but analog
is not my strong suit. I made my way through the op-amp design, but I
am stumped on one component (actually three)?
C7,C9, and C10
They look like electrolytic polarized caps, but are NP (non polarized),
with no '+' on the schematic.
Can someone shed light on what these are and where you would find them
(or if they can safely be replaced with another kind of capacitor)? I
will admit I've never seen mention of these before now.
Are they "bipolar"?
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/nichicon/UVP1H010MDD/UVP1H010MDD-N…
Or, are they called something else now?
Jim
--
Jim Brain
brain at jbrain.comwww.jbrain.com
> From: Mouse
>> the modern 'active content' mania causes me to grind my teeth, too.
> Oh, it doesn't make me grind my teeth. I just ignore it.
Well... part of the problem is that some sites that _I_ find useful really
depend of active content, and are completely unusable unless you use it.
But, above and beyond that, my anger (not too extreme a word, I think) at
active content is about more than me.
There's a quotation from a novel I once read that made an impression on me;
about how a professional marine civil engineer was ticked off at some shoddy
work, saying that if offended him because people might think that the
professionals in the field couldn't do any better; and they could, but not
all of them did. Here it is:
"I'm in the business of building things. And I am a specialist in the ways
of protecting structures from the sea. I guess it would be personally
offensive to me to have the public at large think my profession is so inept
and unaware that we would build a few hundred million dollars' worth of
high-rise living units on a fragile sandspit without knowing what will
happen."
(It's from "Condominium", a so-so book by John D. MacDonald. Fine - in fact,
very good - for an airplane flight or the beach, but not serious literature.)
But that's a big part of it, for me - the notion that as a field, we know full
well how to do better - but instead, for complex reasons I don't want to get
diverted into now, we have inflicted this abomination on all the innocent
users, who are nowhere as well able to protect themselves as you and I are.
Noel
I just dug out what might be my last extra DECmate II CPU for a list
member, and now have access to several Pro and Rainbow CPUs and other parts.
If you have any interest, please contact me off list. Shipping from
Illinois.
Thanks, Paul
I have a couple of VT-52 keyboards that need repair and I'm looking for a _broken_ VT-100 keyboard to serve as a donor for switch bodies. Anybody have a junk keyboard with a few working keys lying around? Please contact me off list.
Thanks, Jack
j at ckrubin.us
PS I'll be at VCF next week if that makes delivery any easier.
Hello Paul,
I have a Pro380, including box, PSU, motherboard, RX50 interface and RX50.
Unfortunately no other interface, so any missing part could be
interesting, specially HD / graphics / network.
Please let me know if you find something.
I tried to forward the sent emails from two different email accounts, I
hope at least one of the two will come at destination.
I double checked for answers in the last month, including in spam, but
unfortunately no luck.
It seems there's something wrong with email somewhere...
Thanks
Andrea
