Getting Ready to the NeXT Adventure at SMECC
Found some of the boxes of cables, the mouse, trays for the laser printer.
Another crate had these slipcases with lots of 8x11 NeXT Manuals in
them... In addition there are CDs
Located the CUBE, the Monitor and Keyboard need to find where the
printer is. I know it is there!
A couple weeks back I was given a copy of "Steve Jobs & the Next Big
Thing" and started reading it. Very Interesting although it was done before
apple got jobs back and from what I see in other sources adapted the NeXT
software to be OS-X.
I would interested in hearing from the group to how accurate they
consider this book.
I am also interested an any suggestions how I handle the initial power
up... this whole machine is a new thing to me as Macs and NeXT are
systems I never used back in the 'the day'
Any advice on or off list appreciated!
After I get it running, assuming it will I will set it in the
display area and will need to look for some colorful advertising stuff to
help decorate the display. If is totally roached and will not fire up then
I guess it becomes a static display ( until some other parts units show
up?)
Thanks Ed# _www.smecc,org_ (http://www.smecc,org)
So I just bought, and have been avidly reading:
Lamont Wood, "Datapoint: The Lost Story of the Texans Who Invented the
Personal Computer Revolution"
and I was wondering what other people thought of it.
(For those who aren't familiar with it, his thesis is in the sub-title. He
reckons the first Datapoint machine, the 2200 - announced 1970, shipped 1971 -
was the first personal computer, and a direct ancestor of all the PC's out
there today. The Intel 8008 - base of the later 8080 and 8086 - was not
actually related to the 4004, but instead was done persuant to a contract with
Datapoint to provide a CPU for the 2200, to replace its inital CPU, which was
built out of discrete chips.)
It seems to be a reasonably scholarly work - he did a lot of interviewing of
the principals, has made extensive use of archives of contempory written
material, and it has some source footnotes (although not as many as would be
optimal).
So I think he might have a good case....
Any collectors of early Datapoint machines out there on the list? If his
thesis is correct (and I think it is) these are very historic machines - up
there with Altairs, etc.
Noel
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> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 20:53:27 -0700
> From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: pinouts for LH Research Super-Mite and Mighty-Mite-A sense
> connectors
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> I'm working on documenting these supplies, since there seems to be almost
> nothing on them on
> the web of use. There is a list of what is on the 9 pin molex on the SM,
> but no actual pinout.
> Same for the 15 pin D on the MMA, but at least there are enough pictures
> around to be able to
> assume the sense lines are on 1 and 2.
>
> The general form of the part numbers for them starts with 2 or 3 letters
> (TM,MM,MMA,SM) a rough
> power rating code (1-7) and the number of outputs (1-5) a dash, then model
> number probably encoding
> supply outputs/amps. This is based on looking at a bunch of eBay pictures.
>
Al,
I have a MM65-E0506/115 that needs repair.
This is also known as a DEC H7130C from a KS10.
5V at 30A
5V at 60A
12V at 10A
15V at 3A
5V at 5A
I see lots of companies that advertise repair services for these supplies,
so the documentation must exist. It would be great if you could find some
documentation for these power supplies.
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> From: Al Kossow
> Stack Limit
That's there - that's the KJ11.
> From: Tony Duell
> KW11-L line time clock?
I don't really consider the LTC as a CPU option. It's on the actual UNIBUS,
it's just in a specially wired UNIBUS slot that's only one slot wide, and only
has BR/G6 and D6/7 wired to it. Yes, in this case that slot is in the CPU, so
one can make an argument...
Noel
> From: Alexandre Souza
> the outsider comes and says "if he is selling for 1000, I'll sell mine
> for 1100 and see what happens" and the price goes to actual unpayable
> levels.
Except it usually doesn't work.
Look at that PDP-8 that was listed for ever at $25K. No takers. And this
PDP-11/04:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172192522620
which does, after all, have the programmer's console, and has been listed for
months at $2K.
Noel
> From: William Degnan
> Some of the CPU options not present.
Huh? The KT11-D is there, as is the KE11-E and KE11-E, and even a KJ11-A of
sorts (might be an after-market one, doesn't have the standard DEC handle).
What other 11/40 CPU options are there?
Noel
Hi folks,
if you're interested... I have made available my Honeywell H316
environment. Consists of all you need to run the machine and more.
Contains software to split and rearrange libraries. The Fortran IV
compiler SOURCE. The assembler. Scripts that run compiler and assembler
transparently on files (with help of SIMH).
Plotter library. Mandelbrot program. Much more. Only SIMH is needed. The
rest should be done by the Makefile. It's just all I have.
http://gitweb.hachti.de/git/h316.git
:-)
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I'm working on documenting these supplies, since there seems to be almost nothing on them on
the web of use. There is a list of what is on the 9 pin molex on the SM, but no actual pinout.
Same for the 15 pin D on the MMA, but at least there are enough pictures around to be able to
assume the sense lines are on 1 and 2.
The general form of the part numbers for them starts with 2 or 3 letters (TM,MM,MMA,SM) a rough
power rating code (1-7) and the number of outputs (1-5) a dash, then model number probably encoding
supply outputs/amps. This is based on looking at a bunch of eBay pictures.
They want waaaay too much money for them on there.
This all started because I need to fix the MM72s for the Alto. I got the four I took a look at
fixed by replacing all of the 19000uF/7.5v caps. All of them were dried out. Not a huge surprise
since they were from around 1978. Measured the rest of the caps in them with an in circuit
capacitance/ESR meter and they were all reasonable, even the 1400uf/200v ones, which I had some
spares for, but are much harder to find in the right size than the 19mF ones.
Switching supplies from the mid 70's are NOISY (10-20mV on all four supplies)
I was wondering if this item would attract much attention.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262642624725
Sold for $787 this evening.
I don't know anything about these systems. Looks interesting, but this
bit of text didn't sound too encouraging: "The 550s have not held up
particularly well over time. As of 2013, the museum had two units.
Both units have non-functioning power supplies. The system control
boards are also subject to damage from battery corrosion."
http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=581
Also this bit of text about the HP-UX 5.0 Operating System:
"The downloadable file is an image of the system software tape for
HP-UX on 500 Series computers. It was made from a 150ft tape. We
obtained 47 read errors while imaging the tape, so it's probably not
entirely intact, and we don't have a working 500 Series machine to
check. However, the file contents of the tape are readable by issuing
the BASIC CAT command from a 300 Series computer."
http://hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?sw=534
Just curious if anyone knows much about these systems and if anyone
has one in working condition. What might the chances be for whoever
bought this system to get it into any sort of working setup? Does
anyone else have software for these squirreled away in their
collections?