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by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Well done! Perhaps glass case it to keep it around? How many hours into the project? I am impressed! Ed# In a message dated 12/27/2016 6:41:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, hilpert at cs.ubc.ca writes: https://imgur.com/a/JNp7m

9 years, 1 month

PDP-6s at MIT

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> AI memo 238: ITS Status Report, April 1972: >> Actually the Project MAC Dynamic Modelling Group uses a non-paged >> early offshoot of ITS on their PDP-10. > So it seems DM kept using the non-paged version of ITS, probably like > what their PDP-6 did. No, their KA10 had a paging box, made by System Concepts - probably programmatically similar to the ones on the other two KA's (looking at the ITS source would probably verify that). Note that in addition to the paging box, there were moderately extensive mods to the KA10 itself (on all three machines) to add a variety of instructions (to do things like, IIRC, flush the paging entry cache). Did the original KA10 have XCT too? And then there were things like the MAR. Now, how soon after their KA10 arrived it had the paging box, etc, added I have no idea - it sounds like they ran it without paging for a while. Noel

9 years, 1 month

Transporting an LGP-30

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Indeed the opportunity of a lifetime! Safe travels! Cory! Ed# In a message dated 12/28/2016 9:38:25 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, coryheisterkamp at gmail.com writes: On Dec 26, 2016, at 8:49 AM, william degnan wrote: > On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Christian Corti < > cc at informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016, Cory Heisterkamp wrote: >> >>> I recently became the owner of an LGP-30, supposedly in 'working' >>> condition. However, the machine is roughly 2000 miles from me and will need >>> to be transported by freight. Before it's palletized, are there any special >>> precautions I should take to ensure its safe travel. I'm especially worried >>> about the drum (drum lock?), but haven't been able to find a maintenance or >>> setup doc. >>> >>> Anyone out there with experience or can offer a few pointers? >>> >> >> - Remove all tube modules and pack them in boxes (with good padding) >> - Remove the drum and stuff/pack it separately (remove the belt going to >> the small motor below the drum and unscrew the drum assembly from the frame) >> - Remove all side panels and the cover; there's nothing more annoying than >> dented panels caused by fixating the frame to the panel and/or truck. >> >> Do you get software and manuals with your machine? >> >> Christian >> >> PS: Just found the auction... you paid *WHAT*??? Wow... for a machine in a >> quite battered shape. What idiot put the heavy Flexowriter on the fragile >> top?? Where's the cable connecting the Flexowriter to the computer? Oh, and >> it works without a power cable... Sorry, I had to make those comments ;-) >> Good luck and enjoy playing with your new computer :-) >> > > > aw come on :-) This is a one of a kind thing. There is a value in knowing > you have a project that will keep you busy, assuming you enjoy this kind of > thing, for a long time. On the other end will be a lot of new knowledge. > > I have manuals for this machine, they're out there. I have a neat training > manual that was used by LGP to train new users. They really looked at this > thing to be a personal computer. This was some may claim by some > definition the *first* personal computer. > > Bill Guys, thanks for all the feedback. A challenge? Absolutely. But this is likely as close as I'll ever come to having a first generation machine, something unfathomable to me as a kid. Apologies for the radio-silence, we've put 1200+ miles under our belts since Monday morning. Today we cross into Alberta. Will keep you all posted on how it goes. Thanks, Cory=

9 years, 1 month

DEC banner panel

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Tony Duell > Does anyonre know what the thickess is? 0.7 mm. (That includes the paint layer.) > I also don't know how they are fixed to the plastic header panel .. > Maybe some kind of double-sided tape? One of mine (ca. 1970) has a sheet of double-sided tape which covers the entire thing. (The glue on it appears to have hardened/failed, and the whole works feel out of the plastic panel.) Noel

9 years, 1 month

DEC banner panel

by ard.p850ug1＠gmail.com

I am starting to fill a spare H960 with my PDP8/e system. Starting as in cleaning up the rack, sorting out the power controller, etc.... This is a somewhat odd question for me as I don't normally care about such things, but I might as well try to get it right... Anyway, I have one of those plastic banner panels for the top front of the rack. It's missing the insert (just the black plastic part), but I would guess (based on what I know of the history of the rack) it would have been the magenta one for PDP11s. Was there a yellow/brown one for PDP8 systems? If so, is a scan available anywhere? Is there any way I can get it printed (and onto what) in the UK? I don't have a large enough printer to do this. Has anyone made said panels before? How did you do it? -tony

9 years, 1 month

an edible apple

by hilpert＠cs.ubc.ca

https://imgur.com/a/JNp7m

9 years, 1 month

PDP-6s at MIT

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Lars Brinkhoff <l > (What is it with Swedes and ITS?!?) They're definitely seriously crazy. I myself attribute it to the weather. :-) You probably already know this, but I doubt everyone does, but shortly after MIT-MC (the KL ITS) was shut down, a bunch of (crazy - redundant, I know :-) Swedes showed up at MIT with a shipping container (perhaps under the mistaken impression that Cambridge was Lindisfarne ;-), and loaded the KL into it, along with, IIRC, one of the KA ITS machines - possibly AI? They then shipped the whole thing back to Sweden. ISTR that they actually got the KL to work, but I don't know what the current status of the whole works is. (Me, if I'd taken a KA, I would have taken a second one for spares! The parts in that thing are _seriously_ obscure. :-) Noel

9 years, 1 month

Rack Headers, banners or whatever you call them.

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys Based on the 8/m rack header scan that came in overnight I have done a quick Inkscape artwork. Its not production quality, sized or color matched but ok for a prototype. Printed on aluminium or decal and roll out the air should be possible. Rod

9 years, 1 month

Refurb Panasonic and Okidata dot matrix

by sales＠elecplus.com

1 OKIDATA ML320 5 OKIDATA ML321 1 OKIDATA ML320 TURBO 1 OKIDATA 390 TURBO 1 PANASONIC KX-PP1123 I know that some people were looking for dot matrix printers. This fellow has refurbished units in stock that he is looking to clear out. Not affiliated with the seller, and I have not dealt with him before. Nick Ratansi CAO, Inc tel 718 939 7976 dir 718 886 2025 Nick at compuaddons.com Cindy Croxton

9 years, 1 month

PDP-6s at MIT

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Adrian Graham > I was born 10 years too late to see it all as it grew. ... these early > years are fascinating to me. Well, you _can_ still experience ITS! It runs under a number of PDP-10 simulators (and there used to be an 'open-access' ITS system on the 'net at its.svensson.org, but alas it doesn't seem to be up any more - although in a fit of fore-sightedness, I downloaded the source to the HTTP server he wrote while it was still up). But you can still download one of the emulators that supports the special ITS instructions on the PDP-10, KLH's KLH10, and SIMH; instructions, files, etc here for KLH10: http://klh10.trailing-edge.com/ and SIMH: https://www.cosmic.com/u/mirian/its/ which give step-by-stop on how to get ITS running. Noel

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