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help needed installing USB to Serial Cable for ADTPro

by david4602＠gmail.com

On 3/13/2017 1:00 PM, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 16:57:54 -0400 > From: Joe Giliberti <starbase89 at gmail.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: help needed installing USB to Serial Cable for ADTPro > > The bootstrapping option is grayed out in ADT so I can't do that. I > don't have access to my usual tools for the next few days, so I can't > loop the pins (I've also engaged your question on the ADTPro support forum... that's probably a better place to debug this. But for the group...) Assuming there isn't a hardware issue like the null modem being plugged into the wrong DIN5 socket on the IIc, my guess is there's a bit-width issue with Java. First, some background: it sounds like you've been hacking around with (the location of) the RXTX serial library, which should not at all be necessary; it should be left where it is after unzipping the ADTPro distribution. Also, it's unusual for Windows not to recognize the FTDI-based chip in your UGREEN adapter; it should be automatically downloaded and installed. You should not need to install it manually. You should see the COM port populate in the Windows hardware manager when you plug it in (and the device driver is correctly installed). You said your Windows was version 7, 64-bit. Let's check Java. Go to a command line, and run 'java -version'. The build identifier will let us know if it's 32- or 64-bit. If it doesn't match your OS, that's the reason why ADTPro can't see the serial port (through RXTX). - David

9 years, 2 months

Looking to re-home some NeXT hardware

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

let me put my name back in the hat for the cube next computer... all the other stuff we have looks ok but appears like our cube may have met a baseball bat on part of it.... poor thing would not look good in a display. Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC In a message dated 3/10/2017 10:13:29 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: On 9 March 2017 at 01:21, Ian Finder via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: > Is someone testing a Markov chainer on the list? If so, you have some more > work to do... It would explain the resolute & total failure of our efforts to explain top-quoting to him. Er, to it. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lproven at gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven ? Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 ? ?R/WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal: +420 702 829 053

9 years, 2 months

AIX documentation

by sales＠elecplus.com

Copyright 1991 IBM. All rights reserved. AIX X-Windows 3270 Emulator User's Guide Note to US Government Users - Documentation related to Restricted Rights - Use, duplication, or disclosure is subject to restrictions set forth in GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp. This book describes how to use the AIX X-Windows3270 Emulator, X3270. All that being said, the entire contents of the binder is obviously a photocopy! Sellable or not? Of interest or not? Cindy Croxton

9 years, 2 months

AIX documentation

by barythrin＠gmail.com

As others said, we're not lawyers so ymmv but I would take it as the same as selling a used cd, dvd, software or books. The usual law is we can't copy it. So scanning it, if that company or company's intellectual property is still in existence they might care. But selling originals is usually ok unless specific wording against it, although that's also probably the original owner in contract not yourself.? Ironically I was *just* having a similar thought and self conversation with some training materials I just purchased from a used book store. All the best, - John -------- Original message --------From: Electronics Plus via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Date: 3/12/17 5:15 PM (GMT-06:00) To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: AIX documentation I have a number of binders that have pretty thorough AIX documentation, but the trouble is, there are from security classes that were taught by private companies. Am I legally allowed to resell these?

9 years, 2 months

AIX documentation

by sales＠elecplus.com

I have a number of binders that have pretty thorough AIX documentation, but the trouble is, there are from security classes that were taught by private companies. Am I legally allowed to resell these? Cindy Croxton

9 years, 2 months

Fwd: [rescue] Major Clearout (UK LN11) - REDUX

by lproven＠gmail.com

Forwarding a message that might be of interest to list members... -- Liam Proven ? Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lproven at gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven ? Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 ? ?R/WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal: +420 702 829 053 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> Date: 13 March 2017 at 13:41 Subject: [rescue] Major Clearout (UK LN11) - REDUX To: Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org> Hi, Filtering through this list to remove what's gone and revise the items as required. This is the LAST CALL for these. They'll be going to recycling if no-one claims them (aside from the Newer Computers) All stuff is in UK LN11 Postcode area. Prefer collection, but will ship small stuff at your *own risk and cost*. I will ship small items outside Europe but the large stuff is UK/EU only due to likely power supply restrictions and excess shipping costs. Unless otherwise explicitly stated, all items are **untested**. I will test computers on demand if needed. Cards and CPUs I can't really be bothered to. No returns, folks, ya gets what ya gets. There's a stack of pictures here: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/nt94k1zf0tn49wt/AACpoHnTm75yDhlFHQ6wd5WBa Identification of stuff is left to the reader. If you have any questions just drop me a line. Here goes: ALL FREE TO A GOOD HOME (shipping extra): =iMac G4 800 -15-inch - NOW FREE= TESTED working okay (booted into OS X 10.4.11 and ran a few apps) G4 800MHz CPU 15b LCD Panel 768MB RAM (256MB Internal, 512MB in upgrade slot) Airport (doesnb t support WPA encrypted WiFi) Cosmetically needs a clean and dedust, has a few scuffs on the outer case plastics, otherwise in good condition. Flat Panel LCD sadly has several bugs stuck between the LCD and the backlight resulting in small black spots that look like 2-3 dead pixels Has original, working external speakers (have special powered plug!) - in similar need of light TLC *In Original box* (because frankly it was the only way to store it safely!) Probably have a matching White Keyboard and Mouse somewhere. Happy to ship to UK Buyer as itb s easy enough in the box =PowerMac G3/400 upgraded to G4/500/1M)= NOW FREE but will cost extra for shipping TESTED WORKING booted into Mac OS X 10.4.11 and tooled about. Soak tested for 4 hours. REVISION B UNIT - DOES NOT HAVE THE IDE CONTROLLER BUG == NO VIDEO CARD == 512MB RAM (tested working in the machine) 40GB Hard drive (?) Case is in decent condition aside from an odd scuff, front lower handle has a chunk missing out of it (happened some time ago and never got replaced) =PowerMac 9600= UNTESTED but was working a year ago when I replaced a faulty logic board and booted it into Mac OS 9.1 ZIF Socket CPU card with a G3/500/1M upgrade CPU installed I think about 384MB of RAM ATi Rage 128GL video card Apple 10/100 Ethernet card Case is a bit dirty and has a few scuffs but is in good general condition. The side panel fan has slightly botched (but working) contacts on it. Inside is clean and in good condition. =Intel ISP1100 Rackmount 1U Server= UNTESTED Not been run up in years was stored as working Pentium III 800MHz (Coppermine) No RAM but have some PC100 and PC133 EEC that works in it 1.44MB Floppy and facility to install 2 hard drives (IDE) Includes some crazy-ass Broadcom PCI Crypto-Accelerator card thatb s probably obsolete. The shown hard drive is not included (itb s SATA, anyway) Was bought as new in the box so has not seen a server room in itb s life, I havenb t run it for any significant time. Chassis is clean aside from a bit of dust, the front panel cover likes to fall off because the rack ears got dingged. Comes with a full set of rack rails (never opened) if I can find them =Macintosh Performa 475= UNTESTED worked last time I turned it on and they are pretty hard to kill :) Probably has no RAM or VRAM (aside from soldered in stuff) Genuine XC68040RC25M CPU (not original, has FPU) No Hard Drive (tray and screws are in it I think) Has LC PDS Ethernet card, I think Clean condition, case is largely unscathed, only light yellowing. Has an AppleCentre Norwich dealer label on the front =Macintosh LC= UNTESTED Itb s complete and pretty original, including hard drive, RAM etc. Has some kind of LC PDS card in that I canb t identify (itb s no LAN), but I couldnb t be fashed to take the lid off as I didnb t have a screwdriver handy. I donb t remember having anything too exciting for LC PDS Case is okay apart from some sticker-guff and dirt. Even has original retaining screw! =Apple SCSI CD-ROM= UNTESTED External 50-pin SCSI Apple CD-ROM I think it has a Genuine Apple CD300 (Matshita 4x) drive in it which means itb ll work with System 7.5 up with no silly drivers IIRC 50-pin Centronics with Passthrough =Compaq 8-port PS/2 VGA KVM= UNTESTED The b less compatibleb black port version No cables, sorry, but they use standard VGA/PS2 ports CARDS =NuBus Cards= SuperMac DigitalFilm VidCap system - Includes cable and breakout box 2x of Asante Ethernet Card - RJ-45 and Thicknet ports =PCI/AGP Cards= 8MB Video Board from PowerMac 9600 (I forget the model) Apple Fast Ethernet 10/100 card - RJ-45 =CPUs & CPU Cards= ZIF Module PowerPC G3/266 - originally from Beige PowerMac G3 ZIF Module PowerPC G4/400 - unknown but likely from Yikes! G4 ZIF Module PowerPC G4/500 - SonnetTech G4/500/1M upgrade NewerTech MAXpower PowerPC G3 (233?) Slot Card (for pre-G3 PCI PowerMac) SonnetTech PowerPC G3 300/512 Upgrade Slot Card (for pre-G3 PCI PowerMac) PowerPC 604/166MHz - Pulled from a Power Computing PowerTower (Mac Clone) Unknown PowerPC G3/250 Upgrade Card - has rotary switch clock settings on it =MISC STUFF= AV b Wingsb Personality card (video in/out, RCA Audio in/out) - think these are for the Beige PowerMac G3? 2x of LC PDS Ethernet Card PowerMac 8100/7100/6100 Accelerated Video card for PDS Slot - includes 6100 bracket Apple Performa PDS Ethernet Card 3x of 3rd Party Apple-AUI (mini Apple port NOT DB-15) to RJ-45 transceivers Genuine Apple-AUI (mini Apple port NOT DB-15) to RJ-45 transceiver Quantum GoDrive 2.5b SCSI Hard drive - 40MB - Powerbook - 1992 Quantum GoDrive 2.5b SCSI Hard drive - 160MB - Powerbook - 1992 Various Drive Trays -PowerMac 8600/9600/G3 Beige Tower -Quadra 8xx/PowerMac 8xxx (pre-8600) -Mac LC Floppy Drives - Manual and Auto-inject types Mac SE & SE/30 Rear Expansion port bracket 2x of Mac Keyboard Cable (curly grey ones) Bundle of PhoneNet cables PowerMac 6100/7100 Video to 15-pin Monitor adapter (These still aren't photo'd but will take pics if interested) -- Mark Benson _______________________________________________ rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue

9 years, 2 months

AIX documentation

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Fred Cisin > be aware that legal advice here is often tainted by our own interests, > hence the fiction of "abandonware". Speak for yourself; my comments below are the legal position as best I know it, and not influenced in any direction. Of course, as are most people here, I am not a lawyer (although I've spent enough money on Intellectual Property lawyers over the years to send myself to law school, had I had the time, so I now know a little bit about the subject :-), and my perception is that the lack of knowledge on all our parts implicit in that is a far larger risk than any bias. > From: Warner Losh > Resell: sure. The copyright interest of the seller is extinguished when > you purchase them I don't think that's correct: any copyright rights held by any party are generally not, AFAIK, modified by sale of the material from a second party (i.e. not a rights holder), to a third (you). But that's immaterial, as long as one is only selling a copy which one purchased. As long as that copy was itself not produced in violation of a copyright, transfer to a fourth party (whoever you sell it to) is entirely legal. (Just like selling used books - which generally are in copyright - is legal.) You are (I'm pretty certain) not in any danger on copyright grounds, as long as you don't make any copies yourself. (What the situation is, if that copy _was_ produced in violation of a copyright, I am not sure of.) Restricted rights (such as a duty not to pass the material along) are probably not an issue, as that is entirely a civil contract between the issuer and the second party (above) who purchased them. If that party elects to sell the items _without_ making a second civil contract with the third party (you), those restrictions would not apply. For the second party's violation, the only recourse of the first party would be to sue the second party. Since the third party doesn't have a contract with anyone, there are no grounds for any claim against them. If there are trade secrets involved, I'm not 100% sure of the situation, since there are some protections for trade secrets in the law; but those mostly apply to deliberate theft or espionage. My suspicion is that if a third party gains access to trade secrets through negligence on the part of the second party - i.e. the second party giving/selling material containing trade secrets to a third party - the third party is clear to do what they want with the information. But maybe not, I just don't know enough about protection of trade secrets. The final area to be considered is theft. If the party from whom the documents were obtained did not rightfully own them (e.g. if they technically still belong to the first party, and they were merely on loan to the second party), then the third party (you) can't own them either, and so you (legally) can't sell them. Having said all that, it would probably cost more to ascertain their exact status (were they sold or loaned, etc) than they are worth (unless they are worth a goodly amount). But I also suspect that the rights holder(s) probably no longer care - but that's just a guess. Noel

9 years, 2 months

MOVIE.BYU - progress

by rdawson16＠hotmail.com

Thanks group for the links to the source. These have passed thru many copies, and somehow have embedded control characters and such, but I am successful so far at the cleanup: I pull the source into a fortran knowledgeable editor, I am using "blocks" When the editor stops in the file, I drop into jedit, delete whatever is there, the invisible text and save; restart "blocks" and it parses further I should have this to compile in a few days. It outputs to the Tek terminal, for those guys working on that. Randy

9 years, 2 months

Looking to re-home some NeXT hardware

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

ok can you spare the cube? Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 3/12/2017 7:12:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: Thanks to Chris, I have given the equipment a new home. Pics have been taken of the two NeXT Cube boards in question and pics of the motherboard, for good measure. I've made a post on the NeXT computer forum here for those who may be interested: http://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4027 Thanks, Santo On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Ed via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: > let me put my name back in the hat for the cube next computer... > all the other stuff we have looks ok but appears like our cube may > have met a baseball bat on part of it.... > > poor thing would not look good in a display. > Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC > > > In a message dated 3/10/2017 10:13:29 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: > > On 9 March 2017 at 01:21, Ian Finder via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > Is someone testing a Markov chainer on the list? If so, you have some > more > > work to do... > > > It would explain the resolute & total failure of our efforts to > explain top-quoting to him. Er, to it. > > -- > Liam Proven ? Profile: https://about.me/liamproven > Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lproven at gmail.com > Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven ? Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven > UK: +44 7939-087884 ? ?R/WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal: +420 702 829 053 >

9 years, 2 months

Old Honeywell uPAC parts looking for a new home

by tpisek＠pobox.com

Greetings, While downsizing, I found some Honeywell uPAC cards. There? about 2 dozen of them. They consist of the following: od335 cc901 cc606 cc607 sr335 fa320 dj335 dk320 Physically they are in excellent shape; electrically is anybody?s guess. I?m willing to ship them to whomever wants them. Regards, Todd Pisek Saint Paul, MN

9 years, 2 months

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