> From: Mattis Lind
> Many are already available online but some I cannot find.
Which ones are you missing? I'm curious to see if my set has them.
Noel
> From: Dave Wade
> Or pick up the signals from the wire wrap
I think the OP's approach - disable the on-board console - is probably best:
that port is limited to 2400 baud, and with DL11's being a dime a dozen (OK,
I exaggerate a bit, but only slightly - they're available for about $25)...
And that way you get RS-232 too, and don't have to deal with 20mA - you can
plug straight into a PC.
Noel
For the cost of postage: 2 Sun brackets, part no 330-1806
One is made of clear plastic, the other is purple.
They are located in the Netherlands.
Regards,
Ed
--
Ik email, dus ik besta.
Jorg Hoppe:
I am the proud owner of an old pdp11/05. I does not have a M9970 (nor can I find one). So I cant do 20ma/rs232 output. I read in somebodies note about jumpers @W1 and W2 on the M7261F that I have. Apparently cutting one of these disables the onboard uart and will allow me to put in a serial card. I cant find the jumpers. Nor can I find a print set. Any suggestions?
So I bought some of those fiche that that eBay seller had, for publications I
couldn't locate (either physical, or online), but now that I have a complete
set of fische, the duplicates aren't any use. So, if anyone has a use for
them, let me know, FTGH:
They are:
BA11-N Tech Manual
BA11-N User's Guide
DC11 Tech Manual
DEUNA Tech Manual
DR11-B Maint Manual
FP11-B Maint Manual
KB11-A,D Maint Manual
KD11-D Maint Manual
KK11-A Tech Manual
(Please don't say "I'll take them all", I'd like to 'spread the wealth' around
a bit... :-)
Noel
> From: sop00000h
> I read in somebodies note about jumpers @W1 and W2 on the M7261F that I
> have. Apparently cutting one of these disables the onboard uart and
> will allow me to put in a serial card.
Yes, W1. And it's not cutting, it's inserting.
> I cant find the jumpers.
They aren't labeled, which does not help!
With the board component face up, and the contact fingers at the bottome, W1
is to the right of E69, and W2 is to the right of E73.
> Nor can I find a print set. Any suggestions?
Of the 4 known sets of drawings for the -11/05, 3 are available online. This
page:
http://gunkies.org/wiki/PDP-11/05
gives the names, which should help you locate them (all are in BitSavers,
IIRC).
Noel
> From: Bill Degnan
> What is the OS of the disks, what system was this disk used to
> create/save files to the RL02?
Doesn't really matter, does it, as long as the bits can all be read off the
pack into a file?
Once it's in a file, the appropriate OS, running in a simulator (and most
are, these days) can read the files out. Worst case, someone can write a
program to read the files out (I've done that for V6 filesystems - before I
found http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Tools/Filesys/) and also 4.2 FFS. (And
somewhere I used to have a program to read DOS disks, but I just looked and
couldn't find it.)
Noel
> From: Grant Taylor
> I've had plenty of things that I've found and referenced over the years
> that have disappeared from where I knew it was.
Ah, bit rot - the scourge of the Web. Thank G-d for the Internet Archive!
Although at least one major list archive had been marked to exclude robots,
or something, because even though I had 'good at one point URLs', the IA
contained... zip.
> I've taken to mirroring copies of it on my site, with proper
> accreditation.
Yes:
http://www.chiappa.net/~jnc/tech/archives.html#Personal
and of course also:
http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/cctalk/
(need to add a link to that one on my home page...)
Noel
> From: Grant Taylor
>> people are more likely to find it, when they're looking for info on a
>> topic, if it's part of something like the CHWiki, than they are on
>> individual Web sites.
> I question the validity of it.
It wasn't just supposition on my part; as I had mentioned:
>> I just tried a few samples to verify that claim
and I didn't cheat by using, e.g. KT11-B, I tried to use fairly generic
things, e.g. 'RK05 disk drive' (third listing), 'PDP-11' (fifth listing),
etc.
Admittedly, that's hardly cast-iron proof, but it's a lot beter than just 'it
stands to [my] reason'....
> searching Google for CHWiki came up with things that I think were name
> collisions.
Huh? If you do a Google search for 'computer history wiki', it's the first
non-Wikipedia page in the results list.
I call it the CHWiki when typing posts for here since I would get tired of
typing out the whole long 'Computer History wiki' every time, but I will add
that short term to some pages there to help it show up under that name.
> I'd be more likely to publish things on (what I consider to be) an even
> bigger and more well known Wiki, namely Wikipedia.
Be my guest! :-) I've been there, done that, and moved on, because I got
tired of stupidity like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:History_of_the_Internet/Archive_3#Pictur…
Also, the page that started this ("How to enable USB drives in both Windows
98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1") might well be ditched from Wikipedia, for a variety of
Wiki-bureacratic reasons I won't get into here ('no original research', plus
to which it's not really suitable material for a general encyclopaedia).
>> http://www.chiappa.net/~jnc/tech/V6Unix.html
>> http://www.chiappa.net/~jnc/tech/multics/MulticsPanels.html
>> http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/DECIndicatorPanels.html
>>
>> so I do understand going that way.
> it seems as if you are asking us to do something different than you
> yourself are currently doing
Err, no. The first and third _pre-date_ my joining the CHWiki.
Why I did the second one as a page on my own site, I don't really recall -
maybe because it changed so much in the course of researching it? (It's very
convenient - I had the HTML source on disk opened in a browser window, and
any time I wanted to see what it currently looked like, I just had to hit the
'refresh' button.)
I have done several major things only on the CHWiki, e.g.:
http://gunkies.org/wiki/KT11-B_Technical_Manual
as well as a ton of other stuff.
But clearly you aren't interested in moving off your own personal site -
which is fine.
Noel
Is the code for the KDF11-B ROMs available in machine-readable source
anywhere? I looked with Google, but couldn't find anything.
Eventually I recalled having seen it in the fiche, which was better than
nothing (disassembling something that size to see how it worked was, ah,
unappealing, shall we say?), but it's still pretty hard to work with (where is
'FOO:' in all these pages), hence the interest in the machine-readable source.
BTW, it appears these ROMs can be used in the BDV11, too - which is nice
because the stock BDV11 code only checks 256 KB, whereas the KDF11-B code does
the whole 4MB (and, IIRC, support more devices, too). I bought a BDV11 which
had EPROM's in it which did more than 256KB, and looking at them, they appear
to contain the KDF11-B code. So I promptly made a bunch of copies and installed
them in place of the stock ones in my other BDV11's! :-)
Noel