I have a chance to buy an IBM 5160 (pc-xt) with I believe an original CGA
(iirc) monitor. The interesting thing is that he seller claims it has a
386-16 upgrade board. What do we know about these? How much would that
upgrade board be worth? I'm trying to figure out if his price is fair.
brian
Thanks to help from the list admin, I have figured out why I stopped
seeing my own posts to the list!
Seems that gmail, in the their infinite wisdom, decided that it would be
best for me if my own messages were shunted directly to 'archive' and
never appear in the incoming folder. There is no control or option that I
can find to turn this "feature" off. Subsequently, I've had to change my
list subscription to use my ISP's mail service and all is well again.
Talk about obnoxious! I'm starting to wonder if gmail isn't more trouble
than it's worth. On the good side: It's free and their spam filtering is
very effective. On the bad side: They silently drop most binary
attachments, both coming and going, with no consistent policy involved
that I've been able to determine. And now, this.
Steve
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Any one have copies of the WD controller specifications for the PC/AT?? It
would be a WD1003 model probably the ?WAH version but any version would be
appreciated. The following is a list of some known versions
WD1002A-WX1: Half-slot PC XT, PC AT compatible Winchester controller (MFM).
WD1002-27X: RLL 2,7 half-slot PC XT, PC AT compatible Winchester controller.
WD1002A-27X: Half-slot PC XT compatible Winchester controller. RLL, SMT, no
jumper selection required.
WD1003-WAH: Winchester controller with PC AT compatible interface.
RLL 2,7 version available (-RAH).
WD1003S-WAH: Surface mount technology version of WD1003-WAH.
RLL 2,7 version available (-RAH).
WD1003-WA2: Winchester and floppy controller board with PC AT interface.
RLL 2,7 version available (-RA2).
WD1003A-WA2: PC XT form factor version of WD1003-WA2.
RLL 2,7 version available (-RA2).
The corresponding WD AT interface chips are probably the WD11C00C-22 and the
WD12C00A-22 -? copies of their specs would also be appreciated.? I happen to
have the WD11C00C-17 spec, which is the XT version.
Tom
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 at 16:18:22 Chuck Guzis wrote:
> From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com>
> Subject: Re: Early WD Controller and/or chip specs
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
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> On 2 Nov 2009 at 14:48, Tom Gardner wrote:
>
> > Any one have copies of the WD controller specifications for the
> > PC/AT?? It would be a WD1003 model probably the -WAH version but any
> > version would be appreciated. The following is a list of some known
> > versions
>
> Tom, I'm not certain what you're looking for, but I've got the 25-30
> page booklets for both the WD1003V-SR1/SR2 and the WD1003V-SM1/SM2,
> if that's what you're looking for. The chip lineup is:
>
> WD42C22
> WD1017
> WD10C22
> WD37C65 (for the floppy versions)
>
> Also have the databooks for the WD1007 ESDI and a few other
> controllers. I have product description sheets for more.
>
> --Chuck
Hi Chuck:
I would very much like to get copies of both the SR and SM booklets. If u
are willing, can we work out details off line? My email address:
t.gardner-AT-computer.org
FWIW, the WD1003V is the 1986 version of this line. I'm not sure exactly
which model shipped in the first PC/AT other than I am pretty sure it was of
the WD1003 family.
Tom
Rich Alderson <RichA at vulcan.com> wrote:
>> From: Johnny Billquist
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:00 PM
>
>> Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at Update.UU.SE> wrote:
>
>>> Ps.
>
>>> Checking the archives, both you and Peter posted the link :D
>
>>> http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/htdig/cctalk/2003-July/025598.html
>>> http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/htdig/cctalk/2009-January/267600.html
>
>> Ah. That first link was really good. There people can see what Peter
>> have in storage. Most of it very much possible to get running. So he
>> have actually four KI10 systems, as well as two KA10, and a bunch of KL
>> and KS. It was more than I thought.
>
>> Looks like a pretty good collection of all 36-bit machines with PDP-10
>> like architecture. Missing is a PDP-6, as well as a few clones.
>
> No one has a PDP-6. No one. :-(((
Afraid you might be right on that one, Rich. :-(
>> The SC30 is actually online on HECnet. :-)
>
>> .ncp tell sol sho exec
>
>> Node summary as of 28-OCT-09 19:53:09
>
>> Executor node = 59.10 (SOL)
>
>> Identification = Systems Concepts SF CA USA - SC30M - DN-20 4.0
>> State = On, Active links = 0
>
>> I think his TOAD-1 is also running, but it don't seem to be online on
>> HECnet right now.
>
> If I understand it correctly, HECNET is a DECnet network, right?
Correct.
> In that case, unless Peter or someone else has done the work to make the
> Toad-1 speak DECnet, no one's Toad-1, Peter's or any other, will ever be
> on HECNET. The management at XKL absolutely forbade the software people
> to work on DECnet, for reasons obvious to anyone knowing the company history.
Hmm. What would prevent it? After all DECnet already exists for TOPS-20.
Did XKL make such big, incompatible changes to T20 after they got it
>from DEC?
I would definitely not hold it above Peter to fix it if it didn't work
for some reason. He has done things like that in the past.
The Toad-1 do have a node number allocated on HECnet anyway.
.ncp sho nod toad1
Node summary as of 30-OCT-09 18:29:13
Remote Active Next
Node State Links Delay Circuit Node
59.30 (TOAD1) 0 30 60.664 (PDXVAX)
Johnny
I sort of missed most of the discussion on the Kiel PDP10 but in going thru
some of the dialog I came across this quote from one postings:
> The Kiel museum/collectors society who were tracking the University's
> computing department's "output" for many years saved a complete system
> consisting of two KI10 (not sure, but older than KL10) processors,
> memory, drum memory, peripheral controllers, and some peripherals. About
> 25 racks. And a row of RP02/03 disk drives. And tons of cables and
> documentation. That roughly describes what has been kept in basements
> over the last years.
> ...
> They are in touch with the guy who maintained the machine (the guy with
> the lamps). He selected about five cabinets and one RP02 disk drive for
> the exhibition. The exact minimum of stuff that can be called "pdp10
> system, complete". The rest has been given away to collectors. I
> personally saved some stuff (RP drives, RS04 drives, CR10 card reader),
> the biggest part went to collectors who have in mind to get the stuff
> working again.
I worked on the Memorex 660-1 which is the RP02.
The RP02 (Memorex) and RP03 (ISS) are really significant early hard disk
drives and I would hope the Computer History Museum would be interested in
samples of both.
Can someone give me some status - where have they gone and are any still
available for collecting? If any are available, I can then work with the
museum to arrange for collecting them. If they are not available, it would
still be great to know where they are for reference and possible future
collection.
Tom Gardner
Los Altos CA USA
Hello,
Did you sell all of the LDB 4401 cassettes? If not then please respond with available quanity and price.
Ron Becker
United States
Wichita, KS 67216
