Hi,
Speaking of tubes, television variety or otherwise, does anyone know
if there are any tube-based computers, large or small, still in
existence?
I saw parts of one a few years ago at the Computer History Museum in
Silicon Valley but none that have approached a 'working' unit or
sub-unit!
Murray--
I'm rather surprised this thread hasn't brought up what has to be the most
complete, working order, and fully programmable of the remaining tube
machines. There are a couple of interesting systems in the process of
restoration, but for my money, the best of the running examples is the
Science Museum's (London's) Ferranti Pegasus. Unlike the Collosus replica,
this is an actual relic, and recognizably a programmable computer in the
modern sense. The Colossus and most of the later small systems are
pegboard programmed and therefore cannot alter their instructions in
flight. That Ferranti is demo'd regularly (though I never seem to be around
on the right day). I'm sure everyone can do their own Googling, but it a
pretty complete setup. I keep a loving photo of it in my office cubicle.
Thanks,
Colin Eby
Technical Architect
NR Performance Engineering
CSC
Some of you know that I have been selling some CDC disk packs on Ebay
- ones I pulled out of CyberResources.
I have noticed lately that there are some others selling packs on Ebay
- and they are using the text from my auctions.
My packs are either from Cyber's replacement stock, or are clearly
marked as crashed - the ones on Ebay are not. Consider these other
packs from these sneaky vendors as VERY QUESTIONABLE.
My Ebay name is TOOBER. Currently I have no packs on auction.
--
Will
the was posted to a amiga ircchannel some time ago,
http://www.softpres.org/glossary:kryoflux
Looks interessing, if there will be better drivers and accessable info
for writing or chaning the code on it, drive situation cant be much worse
than what we have with the catweasel.
Regards
--
Jacob Dahl Pind | telefisk.org | fidonet 2:237/38.8
FYI: the Living Computer Museum presentation will be a joint one, including my colleague Rich Alderson. Rich has been an active member of the 36-bit community for many years. -- Ian
________________________________________
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rob Jarratt [robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:27 AM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: DEC Legacy Event, Windermere, UK, 17th-18th April
I am sending the message below on behalf of the organiser of this event, as
he has been unable to resubscribe to the list:
Greetings,
I hope you don't mind me sending you an update on the DEC Legacy Event the
weekend of 17th & 18th April this year.
There are lots of exciting talks and demonstrations now lined up and lots of
kit to use, with more to come in the weeks ahead.
Please feel free to visit the website http://declegacy.org.uk for updates
and come join us for an interesting and social weekend in the Lakes!
Regards, Mark.
Current highlights are:
Kevin Murrell will be talking about the work at the National Museum of
Computing and the Computer Conservation Society preserving and restoring DEC
hardware. There will also be a video-link back to the museum to demonstrate
some of their 'less portable' DEC equipment, including the Blacknest PDP/11
used for seismic monitoring and their VAX fault tolerant system. He's
bringing along some choice exhibits in their collection including a PDP/8,
DEC Mate III and DEC Professional running RT11.
Colin Butcher is keeping us up to date by presenting technical details of
the new OpenVMS 8.4 release (including Clustering over IP/DECnet over IP,
performance enhancements etc.) as well as facilitate a mini-bootcamp where
participants will get an opportunity to try their hand at installing VMS,
clustering VMS or any other topic which is of suitable interest.
Ian King from the Living Computer Museum is joining from the USA and is
giving a presentation on the restoration of the DEC machines in their
collection. These include a PDP-10 model 2065 running Tops-10, a TOAD-1
running TOPS-20 and a VAX-11/780-5 running OpenVMS 6.2.
Dave Goodwin will be making a presentation on his PhD "Digital Equipment,
its Rise and Fall" answering the research question whether the sale to
Compaq was necessary or could DEC have survived on its own with the
technology it had.
Stephen 'Hoff' Hoffman, founder of HoffmanLabs, OpenVMS coder, publisher and
regular presenter at OpenVMS-related events will be joining us for a
presentation by video-link.
Jim Austin, Professor of Neural Computing, University of York, will be
demonstrating something of interest from his museum of DEC related hardware.
Equipment that will be on show includes:
PDP/8, DECmate III, DEC Professional running RT11, MicroVAX II & Microvax
3100 M80, VAXstation 4000/90, VAXstation VLC, DEC 3000/600 AXP, DEC
AlphaServer 1000A, ALPHAbook 1 Laptop, HP ZX6000, HP RX2600 server... with
more to come!
I am sending the message below on behalf of the organiser of this event, as
he has been unable to resubscribe to the list:
Greetings,
I hope you don't mind me sending you an update on the DEC Legacy Event the
weekend of 17th & 18th April this year.
There are lots of exciting talks and demonstrations now lined up and lots of
kit to use, with more to come in the weeks ahead.
Please feel free to visit the website http://declegacy.org.uk for updates
and come join us for an interesting and social weekend in the Lakes!
Regards, Mark.
Current highlights are:
Kevin Murrell will be talking about the work at the National Museum of
Computing and the Computer Conservation Society preserving and restoring DEC
hardware. There will also be a video-link back to the museum to demonstrate
some of their 'less portable' DEC equipment, including the Blacknest PDP/11
used for seismic monitoring and their VAX fault tolerant system. He's
bringing along some choice exhibits in their collection including a PDP/8,
DEC Mate III and DEC Professional running RT11.
Colin Butcher is keeping us up to date by presenting technical details of
the new OpenVMS 8.4 release (including Clustering over IP/DECnet over IP,
performance enhancements etc.) as well as facilitate a mini-bootcamp where
participants will get an opportunity to try their hand at installing VMS,
clustering VMS or any other topic which is of suitable interest.
Ian King from the Living Computer Museum is joining from the USA and is
giving a presentation on the restoration of the DEC machines in their
collection. These include a PDP-10 model 2065 running Tops-10, a TOAD-1
running TOPS-20 and a VAX-11/780-5 running OpenVMS 6.2.
Dave Goodwin will be making a presentation on his PhD "Digital Equipment,
its Rise and Fall" answering the research question whether the sale to
Compaq was necessary or could DEC have survived on its own with the
technology it had.
Stephen 'Hoff' Hoffman, founder of HoffmanLabs, OpenVMS coder, publisher and
regular presenter at OpenVMS-related events will be joining us for a
presentation by video-link.
Jim Austin, Professor of Neural Computing, University of York, will be
demonstrating something of interest from his museum of DEC related hardware.
Equipment that will be on show includes:
PDP/8, DECmate III, DEC Professional running RT11, MicroVAX II & Microvax
3100 M80, VAXstation 4000/90, VAXstation VLC, DEC 3000/600 AXP, DEC
AlphaServer 1000A, ALPHAbook 1 Laptop, HP ZX6000, HP RX2600 server... with
more to come!
I have now completed the detailed inventory of the museum.
Please see:
www.pdp12.org
for the extensive list. I will be entertaining offers until Sunday,
February the 28th for the entire museum in one lot. Contact me for
details at rkrten at gmail.com. I will make a decision Monday, March
1st.
Cheers,
-RK
--
Robert Krten
From: Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Solderless breadboarding (and 68010 vs 68000)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
<snip>
>> [1] The local pound shop (a similar concept to dollar stores) was selling
>> a camping lamp with 24 white LEDs for a pound.
>I'd buy that for a pound! (and repurpose it, as you have).
-ethan
---------
Check your local Dollar store; I just happen to have a couple of those
24 LED lamps in front of me at this very moment that cost $1.50 ea.
(modding and putting them under the kitchen cabinets).
Lots of neat stuff in Dollar stores; amazing that they can sell a solar
powered/battery backed scientific calculator for $1.00 these days, esp.
considering shipping and several middlemen also making a profit...
Button cells 5/$1, $7 ea. at the Shack...
etc.
Again for 2010, I am crossing the country and am offering to pickup,
haul, and deliver large items for list members. In mid/late April, I
will be leaving New York, to arrive in California near the start of
May, and I will be passing thru Chicago and Denver on the westbound
trio, and likely Minneapolis on the eastbound. If business calls, I
can hit other cities as well.
I will have a van and a trailer, and can take fairly large items, like
6 foot racks. Weight is not much of an issue, with maybe a limit of
1200 pounds or so. Items hauled on my trailer are fully caccooned and
tarped. Loading and unloading are included. I use the hauling to pay
for my expenses on the trip (mostly fuel), so my rates are quite
reasonable. Smaller items are welcome, of course.
Some of my capacity is already taken for both the westbound and
eastbound sections, but there is plenty of room for more. Also, from
Denver to California I will be almost completely empty.
Please inquire off list, please.
--
Will
>
> Gene Buckle wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, William Donzelli wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The chances of more tube computers coming out of the woodwork is very,
>>> very slim, but it has happened in the past few years. It is actually
>>> reasonable to think that someone could have an IBM 650 or Bendix G-15
>>> tucked away in a basement or garage.
>>>
>> Here's one that last I heard was in service with the RAF:
>>
>> http://199.254.199.10/BehindTheScenes/lockheed.html
>>
>> The company that owned it was bankrupted by the training market downturn
>> after 9/11. It was sold in 2003.
>>
> I'm pretty sure Colossus is running again at Bletchley Park. I only
> wish I could get over there to see it in person. There are some youtube
> videos available.
> Later,
> Charlie C.
To say it is running again is a little bit misleading. A huge amount of work was done by my fellow members of the Computer Conservation Society, including some of the people who designed Colossus in the first place and it is great to have it but Winston Churchill had the Colossi(?) broken up into small bits and so this is a replica, an extraordinarily correct replica but a replica all the same, therefore it is now running, not running again.
Apparently they had less problems getting the difficult bits working as the plans had been released from UK government archives, than the off the shelf 'commercial' items, plans of which had long since been lost except for the odd hoarder like me and probably you. Also thing like switches were available off the shelf, with a high priority job they had first call on things and selected Spitfire fighter switches which were then being produced in good quantities and good quality.
Roger Holmes