At 1:33 -0500 6/10/10, Tony wrote:
>This alas is not a problem for me any more. Poor Pentina passed away
>yesterday.
Here's to Pentina
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may his soul always have a warm monitor to rest on!
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Large Asteroids headed toward planets
inhabited by beings that don't have
technology adequate to stop them:
Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.
I'm cleaning out my closet and came upon (again) one of my collector's
mysteries, a microproducts (sic) Superkim (or SuperKIM). This appears to
be an evaluation board (everything is socketed) that slots into a larger
chassis. It has a Rockwell 6502 and several 6522s, and a tremendous
amount of wirewrap on the bottom which may be after the fact. Anyone ever
encountered one of these? I have the manual for it but it seems to be more
of an experimenter's board rather than a substitute for the KIM like the
AIM-65.
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I would like to reuse some former PC MFM drives for use in a PDP11, with a Dilog MQ606 controller.
Anyone know of an online manual on this controller ?
Jos
Greetings,
I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of someone wanting to take this old Cromemco off my hands. I appreciate all that it is, and it has some family history behind it, but no one else in my family seems to want it, and it's far beyond my era of interest, so... Here we are.
The system itself is in good physical shape - no damage, structural or cosmetic. My late uncle also built a wooden rolling base for the system, which includes additional power outlets for peripherals, and a remote reset switch. He developed software for Boeing on this machine, and I imagine it was pressed a lot.
Based on the advice of others, to avoid damage to the unit I have not powered on the unit or plugged it in.
Hardware installed in unit:
CPU board, 4FDC, 8PIO, two 64KZ boards
Additional hardware, still in boxes:
16-FDC, four 16KZ boards, two WANGCO floppy drives
Zenith Z-29 terminal is also included if you wish, though I had originally intended to keep it. I used it over a year ago to do VAX stuff, and it still worked. There is also a printed manual.
Printed and bound documentation:
Word Processing System, Cromix Operating System, Database Management System, Cromemco Extended BASIC, Z-80 Macro Assembler, Link and Lib, CDOS, FORTRAN IV, Cromemco System & Components, Cromemco Trace System Simulator, Zilog Z-80 Tech Reference
There's also a huge stack of assorted manuals, catalogs, etc. My uncle really kept everything. Also included are a fair amount of my uncle's scribblings and notes, some of which might be helpful to you.
Software (almost too much to list):
CDOS 2.36, CDOS 2.54, Z80 Macro Assembler, Word Processing System 4.06 & 6.0, FORTRAN & utilities, CROMIX, Database Management System 3.05, Database Report Language 1.0, Relocatable Assembler, BASIC 5.2, 16K Extended BASIC, COBOL, Database 0.02 (?), Drivers (?)
I'll gladly snap photos if you wish.
I would really, really like to avoid having to dispose of this stuff. I never knew my uncle, but if I hadn't taken this stuff from where it sat for the past twenty years in my grandmother's basement, it would have ended up in the trash. Hopefully someone here can make good use of it.
I'm in Bremerton, WA. I'll drive to meet you within a reasonable distance. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks,
Jeff
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Ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
> Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
>> > Why use a line editor? There are several full screen editors for OS/8.
>> > Really fast and nice ones.
>
> Where?
Like others mentioned, you have VTEDIT, which you can find at
ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/pub/pdp8/os8/teco8/
for instance.
I also have VISTA, which is a nice editor that can handle various
different terminals. However, for some reason I can't seem to find it in
our ftp archive right now. I was pretty sure I put it up there at some
point. But maybe someone else knows a location where you can find it.
Johnny
I have a bunch of IBM PS/2 model 77s here that are not long for this
world. If there is any serious interest, please let me know. If no
real interest, into the grinder they go!
Please contact off list.
I am in 10512. If you want me to ship, I need to have it worth my while.
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Will
Ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
> Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
>> > The system calls, information about file system stuff, and all other
>> > information you need to write programs in assembler is documented in the
>> > OS/8 SOFTWARE SUPPORT MANUAL
>> > Don't know if it's available online, but I would suspect so.
>
> It is online, and as scanned text file. It printed out rather
> clean on the laser with only a few blank pages.
Saw that later. Good. That means you have everything you need.
>> > Johnny
>> >
> The important thing is got windows ( hyper-term ) and the
> SBC6120 with k12mit ( Kermit ) talking to each other today.
> The PDP 8 was promoted as paper tape system, and it is
> harder to think of communicating with it remotely.
> I still will do most of my editing in DOS box, since the line
> editor is pain to use with the PDP 8.
Why use a line editor? There are several full screen editors for OS/8.
Really fast and nice ones.
Johnny
> Trouble is I am not
> entirely sure what to do with the individual files to make an Ultrix virtual
> tape. Anyone know?
>
You put them together with the right blocking factors and file marks
to make a .tap image.
I've uploaded some earlier versions to http://bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/vax/ultrix
to show you what they should look like. I probably should do the same for the
4.x versions he has.
Ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
> What are the programs needed to program under OS/8 in assembler
> using OS/8 as I/O for the assembler? What is the OS/8 handbook
> that lists the OS/8 system calls for OS/8 use from assembler.
> IS IT ONLINE as pdf?
> Planing to write a few new programs for the 8, because we have the
> technology.
> Ben.
Programs needed? PAL8 is the standard assembler, and ABSLDR is the
normal linker/loader.
The system calls, information about file system stuff, and all other
information you need to write programs in assembler is documented in the
OS/8 SOFTWARE SUPPORT MANUAL
Don't know if it's available online, but I would suspect so.
Johnny
Ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
> Looking back with the emulators, of vintage hardware
> it is the fact that expensive things like mass-storage
> could be shared among several people. I have just been
> installing some PDP 8 software on a IDE drive and even
> with the small size of PDP 8 disks ( 2048k max ) you
> sure can see how small programs and data was back then.
> With a PDP 8 multi-tasking the programs I expect where
> dog slow, but they could run with larger memory and
> disks a larger machine could justify.
In all fairness, there is no such limitation on the size of disks on
PDP-8s. OS/8 have a limitation on disks being no more than 4096
*blocks*, but that's a limitation in that OS, which is based on the fact
that just one word is used to specify the block number for device drivers.
Larger disks (which weren't that unusual) had to be presented as several
logical disks to the OS, in order for them to be fully used.
So an RL02 (as an example) looked like five disks to OS/8. RL0A, RL0B,
RL0C, RL0D and RL0E. All about 2M each.
As for multi-tasking - no, that was/is not dog slow. Most of the time it
was perfectly fine even for several interactive users in parallel.
Johnny